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  • #61

    Mower Converted Water/Hydrogen



    Those engines converted in Georgia 2005-2008, as I said before, had used electrolysis at spark plug at over 100volts dc for the hydrogen generated, but had also used BROWN'S Gas. Some people don't know about that. With a pulsed type DC power supply there is an electrical charge put on water vapor that also produces pressure due to expansion of like polarity gas. Both together form the piston pressure that runs the engine. The circuit also used Radiant Energy from the vacuum chamber Bakelite dual coils + diode that enhanced the reaction. The dual alternators on the mower engine ran electrical circuit on the built in 12 magnets providing AC when shaft is turned. The converted car engines used 2 batteries with alternator charging both during driving. Later, It was found that EGR Nitrogen added to engine increased efficiency further. Tech data taken, copied, from original web forum , now shut down.

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    • #62
      Long time back I made failed sketches regarding diodes protection of the 400watt inverter that was used on cars conversions in Georgia back at that time. It BUGGED me that the system still was working after 3000 miles on chevy car. My recent clipboard drawing with erasable ink pen finally showed promise.  I knew that somewhat similar set up had to be on the Briggs engine. Here goes, — The starter position of car switch provides 12v to ignition coils. The plug gets full 12kv high voltage. When key running on position , there is a ballast resistor that puts 6volts worth of high volts to ignition coil.  Now it's 6kv firings. The Georgia schematic on the web forum Waterfuel1978 @ yahoo.com showed only 4 possible diodes following the Inverter box. That's about 3200V protection. Two in the bridge rectifier1kv + 1KV and 2 in the circuit as 600v each.  The bridge rectifier was not shown. Remember , the technicians in shop did all the work, Nathren father was non tech person. He only looked over the shoulders, and reported work done on the web forum. As resistors add up in series to input resistance, spark gap voltages in series also add up to beginning high volts. The Chevy distributor with spinning ROTOR provides the first of 2 spark gaps. Loss of 3KV. So now, there is about 3, 200volts protection against 3000volts ignition final voltage.

      The second thing going on is that the spark plug AIR gap of high resistance is way reduced , due to the water solution. Less high volts is needed to fire plug. The project viability has gotten way higher.

      The main energy power supply as DC is required to be minimum 100v or higher. Some guys used Inverter 220vAC . This is because the volts input to water solution is WAY REDUCED by 10 TIMES. 220 becomes 22. 110v becomes 11volts. DC low efficiency electrolysis requires minimum 3 volts. (You can't use 12v going to 1.2volts through water solution) Current gets reduced way down , due to tiny electrodes specific area of plug tips. (Not large plates in water)

      Zero ohms resistance Champion / Autolite spark plugs pass the needed DC current as 2.8A average or 7 Peak Amps on scope. The circuit resistance by OHMS LAW requires volts divided by certain resistance to get the 2.8A. The circuit diodes reduce the 110v down, then the 10 to 1 reduction , so as the Relay resistance in series was total 1.2ohms at about 10volts DC. Close enough as 8A, to make Hydrogen gas and electrified water vapor pressure.

      The system had been enhanced by the radiant energy provided inside the relay by the high volts against the diode cathode inbetween the 2 inductors. The R.E. Follows the wires to spark plug. One set double coils relay per cylinder. That's why they were called the "Magic relays".

      I refer you to the old documents you read long ago about the Engineer
      Who had US Patent on the added diode circuit to regular CDI ignition booster. The main discharge capacitor has LEFT OVER volts charge after firing Primary, so as the balance 50v 1ufd cap discharges balance through microwave blocking diode to high volts side. The loud SNAP at spark plug was aided by what he called the front side Capacitor. You can also use his Back Side Capacitor as high volts PF capacitor across the spark plug. The PF gets quick first charged by ignition, then when ignition then fires plug, the added energy makes extra snap energy , as called PLASMA SPARK.

      I believe that the Briggs engine could have used the other, Tesla added circuit as ignition voltage booster, but would have needed way more diodes protection, that greatly reduced down the final needed low volts, to get the required amps.
      I did recent bench tests regarding back side capacitors , liked the 20-30KV Blue ceramic capacitor as 1000PF- .01uf, - good snap noise. This design added is dangerous , and can put you on the floor. This simple method to get Plasma Spark that THEN allows the main amps to go through spark plugs. A plastic tube with insulated wire is necessary to safely discharge that capacitor before putting in the fingers.

      As per my previous messages, I found out there are 3 types of Inverter boxes - square wave, modified square wave, and Pure Sine Wave types. Georgia people used the wrong one and always had uneven engines running, but they did run. Electrical loads that include 1.75mh +1.75mh, Inductors must have pure sine wave energy.

      To further isolate the main Inverter box from shorting, on the Briggs engine, the return line at bottom of plug goes directly back to the Inverter terminal. The battery neg, is not connected to engine casting. You don't want 2 grounds together, inverter secondary DC neg and battery neg. The starter motor has the battery neg only. . The starter is electrically insulated from engine using nylon plastic bolts and washers. Lots of guys long time back had burned out their expensive Inverters with shorts. (neg to neg) Of course you can use 2 separate batteries.​

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      • #63
        This 2008 video is an offshute of the earlier car engine conversions of spark plug electrolysis in Georgia . It is assumed, the same method was applied to the lawn mower engine here. The plastic tub holds the electromagnet putting field over plug wire to retard the timing , for use with hydrogen gas. Also in there is the dual coils relay for use with ONLY the interior 2 inductors and center diode. It is believed the vacuum sealed relay forms RADIANT ENERGY that benefits the firings. RE not escape because of no air, and follows wiring to plug. The 110v AC to Dc inverter (hidden in cement block rear hole ) sends 7 amps peak current as 2.6 amps average DC current through zero ohm Champion spark plug just AFTER the high volts pulse. The Magnetron trigger is aided by an added on, put together Patent TESLA small circuit that increases the Primary back emf , so as the secondary side gives way higher ignition volts, about 24KV as needed. Lawn mower ignition needs to be boosted up as equal to auto ignition coils. Uneven engine runnings during 2005-2008, was allieviated when adding in EGR for the Nitrogen content. Also the Inverter box should be changed to pure sine wave type,- not modified square wave type as commonly used, as not good with inductive electrical loads. The Briggs engine was self running on the ring , dual alternators under flywheel. The small flashlight battery pack for the ignition modification only used milliamps. The large car battery was only there for the starter motor, then completely disconnected. Low power conversion, but 18HP shown as working. The green Inverter in video background was broken and just left in video. That's why man said inverter WAS NOT USED in the 2 successful 2008 You Tube videos of S1R9A9M9.​

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        • #64
          Update!
          Data was finally found , about how to increase ignition volts on mower engine with SS Magnetron. It was a small parts set up from a Tesla US Patent. Yes, it adds a small inductor coil, diode, condenser, (capacitor) and wiring. One guy tested this and got 40KV on 50KV scale of ignition tester box. . Mower coils are usually 6-15KV . The conversion to Hydrogen requires firing at minimum 24KV or higher, for setting up the small plasma conduction path for the forthcoming heavier current to spark plug. Nathren in Georgia , about 2008, had said statement about implementing small Tesla circuit. This is in reference to the 2 Youtube videos of running 18HP Briggs engine on water in carb, - to hydrogen gas of spark plug electrolysis. There it is. There is Youtube video showing the bench set up to increase volts. My power supply on wood board is now complete for bench test of engine this spring. 7 amps average current from large wattage inverter box, but used on 17% dutycycle., as flywheel goes around per cycle.Their engines in Georgia did run, but unevenly, and they never figured it out why. They were using the wrong type Inverter box of 3 types. Inductors, as part of an electrical load require a pure sine wave type inverter . (2 inductors in relay) The secondary 110v side ALSO needs #gauge wire capable of 7 average amps flow. We know they had a 750watt Inverter box. The green 400W box was broken, and just left in the 2 videos as a distraction, cables not connected.. About 4 amps for the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet and about 11 amps for the inverter input side. Nathren said conversion took about 15 amps. THAT is max capability of the dual alternators on the Briggs 18HP engine. Main large battery is disconnected., after starter used. WHAT NATHREN PROBABLY MEANT, WHEN HE SAID THE ENGINE WOULD QUIT LATER WHEN BATTERY RAN DOWN, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DISCONNECTED CAR BATTERY. . HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL MILLIAMPS USE BATTERY FOR THE ADDED TESLA CIRCUIT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT BATTERY GROUND , SO AS KEEPING THE MAGNETRON WORKING. The side tab terminal on Magnetron is normally used to shut off lawnmower, by grounding the tab. A different flashlight battery pack has a different ground. What happens is, there is an increase in the back EMF of primary side, so as the ignition is raised up higher.in kv.​

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          • #65
            Source Derivation of Original S1R9A9M9 Triple Coils Assembly

            I made up paper folders for the different sections of S1R project. Today informing you about the 3 main components of the mower engine conversion of 2008, and reasons why. I'm going with the flow. The technicians in Georgia work shop did all the tinkering. Nathren senior is a non technical person. Long ago, I was the one who told you about the Briggs on board Dual alternators, running on 12 permanent magnets. Nathren said there weren't any. I found photo of the alternators wire harness behind starter showing as being present. With car battery removed , after starter use, there has to be source of electrical power.Now it is reasonably assumed the new mower engine is converted same way as the cars, with Inverter + Relay. The dimensions of relay allow fit inside plastic tub sideways, with S1r coil.

            The technicians had earlier did a test in engine compartment about a hand wound electromagnet. That was called the 60 turns coil test. I sent you paper on that. 20 amps battery DC current flows through wire coil 60 turns OVER PLUG WIRE with steel core with amp gauge and resistor load. When ignition fires, the gauge momentary drops to 12 amps. 60% balance amps in electromagnet due to the ignition line inducing reactance ohms into the low volts line. By viewing on their oscilloscope, the TIME extension of spark was realized.
            Now, in general, the magnetic field is in direct proportion to amps current within the same LENGTH coil. So the maximum amps from alternators as 15AMPS DC full wave rectified is divided up for 4.4A SEPARATE electromagnet to load resistor to ground, and 10.6 amps Inverter box primary side. Core steel nail or long screw was 3/16" at 3-4" long. 10.6+4.4 = 15 amps. So then reducing down the 20A to 4.4A is the SAME ratio 4.5 of winds. So 60 turns / 4.5 = "13" turns #16 gauge insulated wire S1R9A9M9 electromagnet. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
            The #12-#14 bare copper wire was used as a FRAME SUPPORT for 90 degree 7 winds. The idea was to cause disruption interference with the ignition coil Magnetron to form longer on time for use with hydrogen fuel. 90 degrees and the lower magnetic field. CORE STEEL ONLY UNDER !3 TURNS as the electromagnet.
            I did bench tests with neon bulbs graduated meter showing transfer of 90-200 volts induction to battery side coils. Some guys in forum grabbed the ends of low volts wires and got shocked. I also determined that bare wire cannot be used as shorting, "tick tick" noise and flash . This will cause uneven engine running. Insulated 16 gauge wire also shorted occasionally. I finally used 10KV white china high voltage cable to stop the shorts.
            The conversion process needs an edge for efficiency. The car conversions worked, so to put it on video, the Briggs engine should work the same way. Nathren senior, shorted out the Green inverter box and left it in the videos. He said Inverter not used. Another smaller wattage unit was used for videos and probably hidden in cement block hole or underneath in ground hole. 100 volts is required for the tiny spark plug electrodes.
            The Magic Relays, per cylinder, most likely were giving off Radiant Energy on each of the engines. High volts hits diode cathode . Diode shuts off. Plug fires, then diode on, releasing Radiant Energy. Data was from the alternate energy forum on Internet. The Relays perfect sealed chamber full vacuum allowed no dispersion of energy waves into air. The extra new energy follows circuit to spark plugs.
            The triple coils is hooked up, through, from one end to the other end. In that regard your Megatran drawing is CORRECT. The old Georgia forum stated that it was just easier to wind 3 separate wire coils, with joint. Based on my drawing scenarios, the numbers 5 and 1 line, 7, and 13 turns are correct. The field was to slightly only adjust for late timing past TDC to get about 7 PEAK amps. Longer on time in milliseconds, past about 15% duty cycle, would lower the Peak pulse amps. The Georgia tech people said about 7 amps current was best for spark plug at about .080" gap , and the eventual slower eroding of electrodes. Please write back so I know you got my message.
            Last edited by russwr; 03-25-2026, 11:52 AM.

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            • #66

              Another Simulated "Magic" Relay Construction-

              April Update New S1R Construction Relay Improvement Box -
              Today finished recent build for ANOTHER Georgia Relay simulation with improvements built in. Larger Carlon sealable box, similar to the small one. Original was from 2008 Georgia.

              (1) Dual inputs option High volts positive or negative. (2) Option inputs 110v DC positive or negative (3) added Tesla magnetic spark gap with copper foil extra conduction + containment than just vacuum. (4) Full vacuum chamber for containment and transfer of Radiant Energy to spark plug. (5) original relay had one diode for emittance. This one has 4 in parallel.(6) The 3 inductors are exact as 1.75mhenry as originals, as 18-gauge wire , and are in proper orientation as end-to-end matching. There is no confliction during hi volts pulse as there are always 2 open unused pin terminals on top cover of 5 total. This is a series type circuit with ignition pulse entering exactly at diodes.


              I was also contemplating about small amount of Browns gas as electrified water vapor pressure as charged ions of water vapor repelling and forming pressure for engine piston, as well as the hydrogen gas formed and exploding. Battery DC does not make Browns gas. A power supply type dc as pulses is required. What do you think? The Georgia technicians mentioned about bench tests of charged water vapor on edge of metal sheet. Nathren senior looked on and saw that, to report on the forum. Another paragraph commented on water vapor contributing to engine running.
              The 2008 converted Briggs engine was running (water in carb) at idle speed, most likely with hidden dual coils relay as part of the contribution of efficiency. 110v DC 7 amps applied with ignition for spark plug electrolysis to Hydrogen gas. You tube videos S1R9A9M9.

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              • #67
                Superimposed Voltage / Current passes Through!

                Pulsing DC 40 volts, 15 amps, about 60 cycles, passing through 13Turn coil over steel core, going to separate load resistor, that has one line wire UNDERNEATH coil also, that is from different circuit of higher voltage, milliamps pulsing, at lower 15 cycles. This 2nd wire acts as a full loop circuit flux secondary side of STEP DOWN transformer of 13 to 1 ratio. Am I to assume this "automatic" secondary #12 gauge single line side has somewhat of an increased current passing through it also , to it's separate low ohms load resistance? (S1R9A9M9 Electromagnet as also being transformer means same time by induction )​

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