John Bedini's Magnetic Model

[Faraday88]

That images doesn't come up for some reason.

Hi Aaron,

In the early DVDs and also as per Tom bearden, the idea behind the conversion of the vacuum Energy is the translation of ''Anenergy''(Temporal Energy) into useable 3 space Energy (as power) which per se is the translation of the Imaginary S-pole (or Phi-dot) into real S-pole that later is Inducted to produce the exess Energy from the Magnetic to Electricl circuit.
in JB's drawing, at the centre is the 'Normal'South pole as he depicts in his drawing that you have shown here.Further the notion of Q1 Q2 Q3 4Q 5Q 6Q Q7 Q8... which are the Scalars representations. there is something not very clear in this drawing i strongly feel this drawing is just the ''Inside'' view of a bigger ''Outside'' something like what i showed.
in My experiments with this structure of the Magnetic monopole i find that the Batteries after loaded and let to rest attain the same Starting Voltage no matter how long you have drained them...now how is that ????
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[ZPDM]

This is a great thread thank you to everyone for all of the insights and information. While it is not perfectly on topic, it might not yet deserve its own thread, so I'll post some findings of some very simple experiments I did a little while back, that I hadn't mentioned as I might not fully understand yet and are incomplete. So this concerns the magnitude of the radiant. Along with whatever else it may be the radiant is a function of the rate of collapse of the magnetic field, for a given strength of field one which changes/collapses more rapidly yields a more powerful radiant spike. This is Faraday, the displacement current is a function of dv/dt, it is really quite astonishing, it is absolutely divorced from input energy and is only a function of the behaviour of the magnetic field in time.

So to engineer for the spike one wants, a) the greatest induction for the least amount of input energy (As Joseph Neumann made crystal clear this also isn't a one to one linear relationship with input power, but that might be for another thread) and b) the most rapid change in the magnetic field.

By Ohm's Law V=IR so R=V/I. I don't know if I need to go through this given high voltage transmission lines but as I'm not an engineer and others may not be as well, let's consider two scenarios of 10 watts power: 1) V= 1, I = 10 and 2) V=10 I =1.
Situation 1 R =1/10, situation 2 R = 10/1. Same input power greatly different resistance, isn't resistance in the wire going to determine the rate of change of the collapsing magnetic field?

So I took a 0.1 uF thin film (low ESR) cap and was discharging it into all sorts of coils capturing the radiant into all sorts of other caps. This is when I started writing on the "two cap paradox". Holy flippin bejezuz Zeus' beard any simple transfer between two caps doesn't follow conservation of energy it only follows conservation of charge. Nearly any radiant spike violates conservation of charge to the upside, (which I suspect is why the SSG can be OU, the battery cares about charge). A small cap to a large through a coil might violate conservation of charge 5, 10, 50, 100 times in excess but you will only be at 0.5 -10% energy transfer because of the math with conservation of charge vs energy. If you go a cap to an equal sized cap you just slightly violate conservation of charge to upside and it is not enough to violate conservation of energy to the upside. Videos showing just that have been posted by others.

Getting back to voltage and radiant spike, does increasing voltage increase the power of the radiant for a given input power. The answer is yes and I have, a lot, of spreadsheets to attest to it. The easiest and most direct way to confirm is the following. Take a cap, say 0.2 uf (or two 0.1 uf caps in parallel), discharge through a coil, capture radiant with Bedini diode into say a 100 UF cap, measure magnitude of spike, per the voltage in the 100 uF cap. Now take two 10 volt 0.1 UF caps and hook them in series. We now have 20 volts but capacitance has decreased by a factor of four, that is to say the two caps in series have the exact same energy as the two caps in parallel, right? That is what the textbooks say and obviously the case. When you discharge the two caps in series the radiant is significantly higher. Voila, the take home from this as I haven't done a lot in this area would like to hear about it, running an SSG at 48 volts should be significantly more efficient than at 12 volts.

Now when I saw this, I thought, "I've got it". I began mapping input power versus radiant spike output power from 5 - 30 volts and saying well, from this cap to that cap with this coil, efficiency doubled from ten to thirty volts (max of the power supply), this coil will violate conservation of energy at 100,000 volts, this coil will be OU at 20,000 volts. Then I built a little joule thief transformer and went higher voltage. Now going from 30-90 volts things didn't double again they only improved say 50% (the figures are made up but in the ball park), then from 90 - 270 things only improved 25%. I didn't go beyond 400 cause a) I was discouraged and b) didn't want to shock myself even with an annoying 0.1 uF cap. Then I thought "I've got it" I used an iron core because it is better at producing large spikes at low voltages, the hysteriesis in the core is slowing down the field collapse, I'll use an air core. Sure enough the air core was worse at low voltages but improved at higher voltages then again started dropping off asymptotically over say 50 volts.

So chewing on this what can we come up with? The rate of collapse of an inductor is not determined only or primarily by the straight wire DC resistance of the winds. At higher voltages (higher powers) something else is coming to the fore. This relates in part to the idea of multifilar winds but my hypothesis or guess if you like at this point is that the induced Lenz from each wind to another becomes the overriding factor affecting dv/dt at higher voltages. This isn't that nuts, if you take a .1 uf cap a 1 volt versus a .1 uf cap at 100 volts. a) the power to the coil will be ten thousand times different b) the resistance in delivering the energy will R=V/I be one one hundredth. Therefore the peak amp turns could conceivably be up to a million times more at 100 volts versus 1 volt. I really don't know but I think it has to be interwire Lenz slowing the collapse of the coil. If only, if only we had a way around this. I think Tesla gave us this with his counterwound pancake coil. Might also explain why his coils look nothing like the coils you commonly see, almost all one layer and air core. I haven't done anything for a couple months. I've got some 22 gauge wire, maybe should order some twelve gauge so I don't need so many winds (the radiant is a function of coil mass, at least until I've looked at the cw pancake), but when I order stuff half the time I waste my money and realize it worked easier and better with what I had. So, a big piece of cardboard, some superglue, a couple 22 gauge spools and let's see how a Tesla CW Pancake maps at different input voltages, eh?

[Dave Wing]

There are two basic type of "magnetic" drawings that John has posted about the field around magnets and coils - does anyone know the real distinction between them or what these two types of drawings actually represent? He used both in different contexts and sometimes used them to represent a magnetic field in general and sometimes he used them specifically to show something different. I'll eventually point it out

Hi Aaron,

Are you talking about these two types... I'm looking at the Bloch walls, one extends outward in the superpole and the other does not extend outward but inward? Or are you talking about the four corner spins vs the conventional two spin? Or are you talking about the two opposite fields and their relationship, on any magnet (north / south) face, that oppose each other, one gives upon entering and the other taketh away upon leaving? If not please do tell what you are talking about so we can move onward towards a better understanding.


Dave Wing

[Aaron Murakami]

Nice! the original schematic for the Simplified School Girl.

Aaron posted this one:

Here's a larger version of that SG diagram:



Here is the 3rd companion drawing that went with it that shows the old cap dump system:

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Guys,
Here is another view of the 'True' Monopole Rotor
you may compare this with what is present in the JB website drawn by jb him self, it isdifferent only slightly..let me know where is the difference you see in these two..?
Rgds,
Faraday88

That images doesn't come up for some reason.

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Aaron,
I understand what your saying, I have nothing to add to that. I'm only sharing John's words on the timing of the bike wheel - EFTV part 6. This does not contradict anything you are talking about. Only trying to add to the conversation.

I think, at least in this instance, what you are calling firing John called charging of the coil.

KR -Patrick

Thanks Patrick, yes, that is exactly what I mean by firing, it is when the transistor turns on and charges the coil.

[min2oly]

Well if he fixed it that is good but I still do not see it on my iPad and I have reloaded, left and returned to this site and it is still the same way for me... No image.

Is this possibly the image?

Dave Wing

Nice! the original schematic for the Simplified School Girl.

Aaron posted this one:

[min2oly]

Hi Guys,
Here is another view of the 'True' Monopole Rotor[ATTACH=CONFIG]5939[/ATTACH]
you may compare this with what is present in the JB website drawn by jb him self, it isdifferent only slightly..let me know where is the difference you see in these two..?
Rgds,
Faraday88

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[Faraday88]

Hi Aaron,
It is a delight to hear on the Bloch wall pump more since this is applicable even to the G-field Generator, accept that it (the bloch wall) gets éxtended' at the Gap (between the pole pieces of the stator magnets and the rotor coils) and the Polarity (NS) shows up in electrical circuit of the coils.
I think i can explain the bloch wall pump action of JB's two diagrams in short: it can be described in terms of the ''Inside'' and ''Outside'' of a Magnet's Field..[ATTACH=CONFIG]5937[/ATTACH]
Here i attached the structure of the Magnetic field as i see it and have recently constructed it and run tested to show the performance in how it charges the battery as compared to the normal Monopole structure commonly known. watch carefully how the Magnets are oriented and also the circular magnets making the Virtual S-pole become Real to add to the Induction Field.
I know I sound vauge right now, but will soon elaborate on what exactly I mean by the ''Inside'' and ''Outside''
any comments are welcome...
Rgds,
Faraday88.

Hi Guys,
Here is another view of the 'True' Monopole Rotor
you may compare this with what is present in the JB website drawn by jb him self, it isdifferent only slightly..let me know where is the difference you see in these two..?
Rgds,
Faraday88

[Dave Wing]

He fixed it if you go back to the post, I can see it now :-)

Well if he fixed it that is good but I still do not see it on my iPad and I have reloaded, left and returned to this site and it is still the same way for me... No image.

Is this possibly the image?

Dave Wing

[min2oly]

Hi Aaron,

To be specific regarding your post number 47 you state... "Here is the diagram:" and there is nothing below but a small blue box with a question mark inside it and no image.

Dave Wing

He fixed it if you go back to the post, I can see it now :-)

[Dave Wing]

Got it - I only referenced it since I posted it earlier so I added it to the post now to eliminate confusion.

Hi Aaron,

To be specific regarding your post number 47 you state... "Here is the diagram:" and there is nothing below but a small blue box with a question mark inside it and no image.

Dave Wing

[min2oly]

What image do you mean? The one with 8 magnets and coil shows up for me.

John didn't always verbally communicate the best but he obviously always knew what he meant.

If you have a 10 foot wheel and one of these small coils, it obviously will not fire (turn on) at 23 degrees, more like a couple degrees so it has to be in context with the proper proportions.

So what exactly are you saying John meant by "firing"? Firing is what initiates the power cycle.

The bottom line is that the 23 degree claim is rooted in the Earth's tilt and the other applications of that are extrapolated from that same concept and that is the main point that I'm sharing.

Hi Aaron,
I understand what your saying, I have nothing to add to that. I'm only sharing John's words on the timing of the bike wheel - EFTV part 6. This does not contradict anything you are talking about. Only trying to add to the conversation.

I think, at least in this instance, what you are calling firing John called charging of the coil.

KR -Patrick

[Faraday88]

For years I mentioned the SG is an oscillating gas pump, because that is basically what it is.

Coil charges and when it collapses, it sucks some of the potential from the magnetism of the permanent magnets and adds that to the output of the transient spike. Nature likes to fill voids or put things back into equilibrium so the magnet is instantly replenished to bring it back to balance. This happens whether it is in repulsion or attraction mode - it is sucking from the primary field or the "scalar" field between the magnets. I asked John about this about 15 years ago because that is the impression I got and he confirmed that was essentially the case.

What is significant about the Bloch Wall that he is always referencing is that it is the place where the aether enters. I never knew about the Bloch wall at the time, just thought that the magnet polarized the aether around it like any other dipole. It basically does, but instead of my simple understanding at the time with the typical lines of flux drawing, which is so simple but deceptive, it is much more complex, dynamic and beautiful.

John would say the pumping action on the magnet from the coil's field manipulates the Bloch wall (moves it) and at the Bloch wall, that is where the aether enters. That is the point where there is a Zero Force, Antigravity, Null Force, Zero Vector and about a half a dozen other names for the exact same thing.

I don't recall off hand if John just said it simply what it equates to, but it basically means the permanent magnet is a source of potential energy that can be used to do work in a circuit - such as in the transient spike sent to a capacitor for discharge or to a battery to charge it directly.

John has basically said this quite a few times in so many words in quite a few places, moving the Bloch wall, the Null Point, etc... and how vacuum energy enters there. I'm not saying anything that many of you that have been around for a while probably don't already know because John has indeed said these things, but it is a significant part of the overall model.

There are two basic type of "magnetic" drawings that John has posted about the field around magnets and coils - does anyone know the real distinction between them or what these two types of drawings actually represent? He used both in different contexts and sometimes used them to represent a magnetic field in general and sometimes he used them specifically to show something different. I'll eventually point it out

I hope to see some opinions and comments on what John has said about the Bloch Wall AND what the two magnetic fields are that I'm referencing. If you don't know the reference, look at all his diagrams and it may jump out at you.

Hi Aaron,
It is a delight to hear on the Bloch wall pump more since this is applicable even to the G-field Generator, accept that it (the bloch wall) gets éxtended' at the Gap (between the pole pieces of the stator magnets and the rotor coils) and the Polarity (NS) shows up in electrical circuit of the coils.
I think i can explain the bloch wall pump action of JB's two diagrams in short: it can be described in terms of the ''Inside'' and ''Outside'' of a Magnet's Field..
Here i attached the structure of the Magnetic field as i see it and have recently constructed it and run tested to show the performance in how it charges the battery as compared to the normal Monopole structure commonly known. watch carefully how the Magnets are oriented and also the circular magnets making the Virtual S-pole become Real to add to the Induction Field.
I know I sound vauge right now, but will soon elaborate on what exactly I mean by the ''Inside'' and ''Outside''
any comments are welcome...
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

For years I mentioned the SG is an oscillating gas pump, because that is basically what it is.

Coil charges and when it collapses, it sucks some of the potential from the magnetism of the permanent magnets and adds that to the output of the transient spike. Nature likes to fill voids or put things back into equilibrium so the magnet is instantly replenished to bring it back to balance. This happens whether it is in repulsion or attraction mode - it is sucking from the primary field or the "scalar" field between the magnets. I asked John about this about 15 years ago because that is the impression I got and he confirmed that was essentially the case.

What is significant about the Bloch Wall that he is always referencing is that it is the place where the aether enters. I never knew about the Bloch wall at the time, just thought that the magnet polarized the aether around it like any other dipole. It basically does, but instead of my simple understanding at the time with the typical lines of flux drawing, which is so simple but deceptive, it is much more complex, dynamic and beautiful.

John would say the pumping action on the magnet from the coil's field manipulates the Bloch wall (moves it) and at the Bloch wall, that is where the aether enters. That is the point where there is a Zero Force, Antigravity, Null Force, Zero Vector and about a half a dozen other names for the exact same thing.

I don't recall off hand if John just said it simply what it equates to, but it basically means the permanent magnet is a source of potential energy that can be used to do work in a circuit - such as in the transient spike sent to a capacitor for discharge or to a battery to charge it directly.

John has basically said this quite a few times in so many words in quite a few places, moving the Bloch wall, the Null Point, etc... and how vacuum energy enters there. I'm not saying anything that many of you that have been around for a while probably don't already know because John has indeed said these things, but it is a significant part of the overall model.

There are two basic type of "magnetic" drawings that John has posted about the field around magnets and coils - does anyone know the real distinction between them or what these two types of drawings actually represent? He used both in different contexts and sometimes used them to represent a magnetic field in general and sometimes he used them specifically to show something different. I'll eventually point it out

I hope to see some opinions and comments on what John has said about the Bloch Wall AND what the two magnetic fields are that I'm referencing. If you don't know the reference, look at all his diagrams and it may jump out at you.

Hi Aaron,
It is a delight to hear on the Bloch wall pump more since this is applicable even to the G-field Generator, accept that it (the bloch wall) gets éxtended' at the Gap (between the pole pieces of the stator magnets and the rotor coils) and the Polarity (NS) shows up in electrical circuit of the coils.
I think i can explain the bloch wall pump action of JB's two diagrams in short: it can be described in terms of the ''Inside'' and ''Outside'' of a Magnet's Field..
Here i attached the structure of the Magnetic field as i see it and have recently constructed it and run tested to show the performance in how it charges the battery as compared to the normal Monopole structure commonly known.
I know I sound vauge right now, but will soon elaborate on what exactly I mean by the ''Inside'' and ''Outside''
any comments are welcome...
Rgds,
Faraday88.