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  • Dave Wing
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    Originally posted by sinergicus View Post
    Recently I spoken with somebody who has used small circuit for speding rotor under load.... basicaly , his circcuit is used to switch the generator coil to load at top dead center...lenz law acting to push the rotor forward.... I asked him few questions, schematic was provided but I still have unclarities... I think this ideea can improve our bedini systems by using generator coils that will speed our rotors under load .... so here is the facebook post... https://m.facebook.com/groups/112986...1415127828493/
    I looked at the Facebook post, if you do your own experiments please post your results, the more people working on this and posting their results the better.

    John Bedini used the three coil arrangement in his “ferris wheel” and produced a thread on this at Energetic forums. Jim Watson also used the arrangement, in the above picture you can see the offset in the magnets and coils. John Bedini helped Jim and told him how to build these machines back in 1984.

    John Bedini was on the Bill Jenkins radio show called “Open Mind” back in 1984, on the show he makes reference to his machine and calls it an interferometer and mentions about building them and selling them to the public.

    Dave Wing

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  • sinergicus
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    Recently I spoken with somebody who has used small circuit for speding rotor under load.... basicaly , his circcuit is used to switch the generator coil to load at top dead center...lenz law acting to push the rotor forward.... I asked him few questions, schematic was provided but I still have unclarities... I think this ideea can improve our bedini systems by using generator coils that will speed our rotors under load .... so here is the facebook post... https://m.facebook.com/groups/112986...1415127828493/

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  • Dave Wing
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    Now spin the rotor the other way and see what happens. Also try try a separate trigger coil, hall effect or optical switching device. This will give you better machine rpm’s and performance.

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  • sinergicus
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    Originally posted by Dave Wing View Post
    It is a learning process. Are you using an inductive trigger or separate triggering system?

    I believe Lenz is reduced but not nullified with this arrangement. I suspect, but have not had the time to do some extensive experiments, that there is a way to wind a coil so that the voltage and current will be in the same direction. I will post Chris Sykes pdf on partnered output coils.

    https://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guide...ng%20Coils.pdf

    Dave Wing
    My coil is clasicall bedini coil with triger winding toghether with power and colector coil(trifilar winding ) and yes ,i observed reduced lenz effect ,but very little ..also consumption has increased but the spike also... i tried with separators between magnets I observed no difference in performanve without separators... maybe on osciloscope we can see some differences but I didn' verified..

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  • Dave Wing
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    It is a learning process. Are you using an inductive trigger or separate triggering system?

    I believe Lenz is reduced but not nullified with this arrangement. I suspect, but have not had the time to do some extensive experiments, that there is a way to wind a coil so that the voltage and current will be in the same direction. I will post Chris Sykes pdf on partnered output coils.

    https://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guide...ng%20Coils.pdf

    Dave Wing

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  • sinergicus
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    Originally posted by Dave Wing View Post
    sinergicus, can you show some images or video of your machine? Do you have ammeters in vs out? What voltage are you running at and what is your charging configuration? Schematic would be nice as well.
    Hi Dave..... when I measured rhe amp and voltage of the generator coil the rotor had very low speed ...my conclusion was wrong .... I remade the experiment at more faster rotation around 1400 - 1500rpm, frequency measured in a generator coil was 112 hz with 5 pair rectangular doubled (so in fact are 10 ) ferite magnets on their side ..... now I have decent voltage and amp in my generator coil but the lenz effect still taking place.... I am curious if I will put some separators between every pair of magnets ,like was sugested in some Bedini drawings ,I am curious how the system will work ...
    Last edited by sinergicus; 01-22-2024, 03:36 AM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    sinergicus, can you show some images or video of your machine? Do you have ammeters in vs out? What voltage are you running at and what is your charging configuration? Schematic would be nice as well.

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  • sinergicus
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    Originally posted by Dave Wing View Post
    sinergicus, I am researching the generator function and the differences, one thing I can say is a generator can be made to perform switching without a transistor, the waveform is exactly like the transistor switched SSG wave form, it has a spike.

    A magnet and an inductor can be made to switch, producing high voltage pulses, the arrangement fires just like a switching transistor.

    Currently I am working on a generator with what is described above. Pulse motor and pulse generator that are two separate machines, back to the basics for proper R&D.

    Dave Wing
    Hi Dave .... today I tried your sugestion to put the magnets on their side on the rotor... My Ssg worked ok ...my rotor has rotated like in the common design but in the generator coil i made ,the current colected was very low .... around 10 ma ... the same coil has generated in clasical arangement , over 100 ma .... so is not very efficient as energy generation with the magnets on their side ..... by the way , i found the following informations on JLN website with some notes from Befini ..... http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/gfield.htm
    Last edited by sinergicus; 01-16-2024, 08:53 AM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    sinergicus, I am researching the generator function and the differences, one thing I can say is a generator can be made to perform switching without a transistor, the waveform is exactly like the transistor switched SSG wave form, it has a spike.

    A magnet and an inductor can be made to switch, producing high voltage pulses, the arrangement fires just like a switching transistor.

    Currently I am working on a generator with what is described above. Pulse motor and pulse generator that are two separate machines, back to the basics for proper R&D.

    Dave Wing
    Last edited by Dave Wing; 01-16-2024, 01:04 AM.

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  • sinergicus
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    By watching at the papers posted in the last few pages, regarding Ron Cole schematics,i see no difference between normal generators and his design... the same magnetic poles in front of few coils like in common systems .... so what I am missing here? What maiking his moto - generator so special in design and performance in comparison with ordinary systems?

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  • Dave Wing
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    Some more information on self oscillation and who also did this work…

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    This is a link to the 1959 paper, shown below… https://journals.aps.org/pr/pdf/10.1103/PhysRev.115.485

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    Dave Wing
    Last edited by Dave Wing; 01-04-2024, 11:51 AM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    The image of the dipole has been labeled by me as Chris Sykes laid it out in this video. https://youtu.be/14lYNT3F0fw?si=8VPGgGzEiAQSe_Ij

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    and here is the coil arrangement and connections below, magnetic field oppose to create stress fields.

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    and here is a little more from Chat gpt…

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    I am researching in this area currently and do not have all the answers at this current time.

    Dave Wing
    Last edited by Dave Wing; 01-05-2024, 02:25 PM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    Continued…

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  • Dave Wing
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    Here is some more images from the book by Dr. Niepier.

    A quote from the book: “We can simply form EM force field vector zeros by opposing or summing ordinary E and B vectors, for instance, to a zero vector. In this case, the sum of the absolute values of their magnitudes represents an artificial potential, an artificial stress in spacetime, and one that now has a rigorously deterministic substructure.”

    If you watch Chis Sykes videos you will see how this applies to John Bedini and his machine.


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  • Dave Wing
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    I thought I would post these two videos, I believe they are very important…

    https://youtu.be/14lYNT3F0fw?si=8VPGgGzEiAQSe_Ij

    and

    https://youtu.be/Fuu3LARtdRg?si=U6fsnFODsOyhJbyl


    The image below from John Bedini’s presentation is what he called a longitudinal wave tuner or detector. These two images were taken from the video below. At 22:18 of the video John waves his Orange1984 Bedini Generator booklet to the audience when speaking of another way to make a longitudinal wave tuner or detector.

    John says” The other way would be the Enegizer that I drew…in this book… what occurs is you have a flywheel and a North and a south magnet you got a half inch air gap…” and he draws the picture below, that he just finished calling the Enegizer.

    Video is found here: https://emediapress.com/shop/free-energy-generator/

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    The two points of the transformer were tied to an oscilloscope as John had drawn, in the far right of his diagram. I did not include that in my image reproduction.



    The coil arrangement in the above images looks an awful lot like the coil’s portrayed by Chis Sykes in his videos, linked above and what Thomas Bearden describes below about zero vectors.

    Dave Wing
    Last edited by Dave Wing; 01-05-2024, 02:23 PM.

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