Bedini G-Field / Kromrey Converter Questions for Peter and John

[erfinder]

who will bell the cat?????
Look ! the debate of sharing one's work is debatable from a multifold perspective, Bedini is protected by the patents he has filled, he has strategically collaborated with teams around the world to propagate this technology at a pace that not much ahead of its time (and rightly so!!!! for reason i'do'nt think need to be mentioned for people familiar with FE research) Strictly speaking BEDINI TECHNOLOGY IS NOT A TECHNOLOGY ALONE!, it is a SCIENCE and ART that has been tested hard every time and again, Bedini has applied this SCIENCE to a very common and routine object called the Battery, that doesn't limit it to that does..it? now next where else does this show up????these are the intricate steps that follow a progress, if you dig real hard you will see these things are apparent in other application Patents as well!
I'm not lucky to be patted for even telling the truth, but that doesn't stop me from being me...there have been others in the group who disappeared after they realized the EUREKA of this stuff.. what do have to say for those...???? I Recently read the Intermediate book learnt from Peter and Aaron that the Langauge used to describe this Science has been a major difficulty...well, I have over the years developed my own Interpretation/ Language/ Philosophy for this Wondrous Science ... so I offer John and team to consider this seriously and when introduced in academic teachings will change for ever with this! I know teaching is not big deal when it come to money making, But it is nevertheless valuable to progress. After all choices are individualistic!
Rgds,
Faraday88.

Share your work, YOURS!!! You aren't Bedini! We all have seen everything that JB has made public. You are Faraday88....we have seen nothing of yours. Your philosophy is of no immediate interest, right now, the only thing that (speaking for myself) I want, is to see your work on the subject, your machines....period.


Regards

[Kiril_Kirilov]

I don't think you need patents to share few pictures, do you?

[Faraday88]

who will bell the cat?????
Look ! the debate of sharing one's work is debatable from a multifold perspective, Bedini is protected by the patents he has filled, he has strategically collaborated with teams around the world to propagate this technology at a pace that not much ahead of its time (and rightly so!!!! for reason i'do'nt think need to be mentioned for people familiar with FE research) Strictly speaking BEDINI TECHNOLOGY IS NOT A TECHNOLOGY ALONE!, it is a SCIENCE and ART that has been tested hard every time and again, Bedini has applied this SCIENCE to a very common and routine object called the Battery, that doesn't limit it to that does..it? now next where else does this show up????these are the intricate steps that follow a progress, if you dig real hard you will see these things are apparent in other application Patents as well!
I'm not lucky to be patted for even telling the truth, but that doesn't stop me from being me...there have been others in the group who disappeared after they realized the EUREKA of this stuff.. what do have to say for those...???? I Recently read the Intermediate book learnt from Peter and Aaron that the Langauge used to describe this Science has been a major difficulty...well, I have over the years developed my own Interpretation/ Language/ Philosophy for this Wondrous Science ... so I offer John and team to consider this seriously and when introduced in academic teachings will change for ever with this! I know teaching is not big deal when it come to money making, But it is nevertheless valuable to progress. After all choices are individualistic!
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[erfinder]

Thats not very nice... I worked really hard on both the vid and the machine. I actually quoted Tesla's patent when he was talking about eliminating self inductance, so I think that he was trying to do that. I have studied NT's work for a few years as well, but I am not saying I know what he was doing more than you do, I am just stating my opinion. Getting back on topic, what different coil configurations have you tried? Do you have pictures to back it up? What kind of output have you gotten?

Don't take offense to what I say. I said you can do better! Try harder! You quoted one patent, he has several that apply to the subject. He does say eliminating self inductance, but in what context!? I'm not going to get into a debate about something that neither of us can prove, fact is, I have come to an understanding, one which puts me in a position (on my bench) to see when self inductance should be removed from the system and when it should be left alone! You do not eliminate self inductance in the true sense, this should be clear, as the method for neutralization is resonance. In this condition the system appears to have no self inductance, move away from that condition and watch the self inductance manifest! Its a parameter that we want to vary! In parameter variation we find magic. Problem is controlling the self inductance is next to impossible, owing to its inherent cadence. So the master (N.Tesla) suggested we do the next best thing (wonder what that could be....). I don't want to spoil it for you, filling your head with my speculation, my opinions, my view.....formulate your own, then test it like I have.

Like you, like many, I was caught up in the "which coil config is the best for...." in the end, I found only one that matters.

Now you take my advice and demand information from one who has gives you theory but hasn't provided you with proof. Show my work. Before I even consider your request, I have a request of my own! I request that you make this demand of Faraday88! If you get him to show his work on the subject, I will "consider" sharing mine.


Regards

[Ajay]

Thats not very nice... I worked really hard on both the vid and the machine. I actually quoted Tesla's patent when he was talking about eliminating self inductance, so I think that he was trying to do that. I have studied NT's work for a few years as well, but I am not saying I know what he was doing more than you do, I am just stating my opinion. Getting back on topic, what different coil configurations have you tried? Do you have pictures to back it up? What kind of output have you gotten?

[erfinder]

This is not a joke at all erfinder. The coils capacitance may be the key to the proper operation of this device. In the words of Tesla, "A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electrically connected in series and having a potential ditference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth."
That is found in this patent, which ironically, was designed for "Coils for Electro-Magnets and other Apparatus". Patent #512,340

http://www.google.com/patents/US512340

Tesla knew that with increased capacitance comes diminished self inductance, so he designed a coil to operate with high capacitance for alternating current applications, such as the Kromrey.

Lets not throw quotes at one another out of context. Much like myself you have no idea what Tesla did and why. Speculation is all we got, what you are contemplating, I have tried, what you are suggesting will lead to a dead end, but please ignore me as you have been doing and do what you like. I have performed a few experiments and have come to the conclusion that you cannot believe everything you read. I have built a few different versions of the G-field and can tell you it is no different than the Kromrey, and no different from the device depicted in the patent I shared, you know...the one you didn't "study".

Neutralizing the self induction? You cannot be serious, or maybe you are.... Is that what you think Tesla did? Tell you what, if you get rid of the self inductance you loose the ability for the circuit to behave as a reactance. The guy was the LC master....I bet he saw them everywhere. Before you throw a quote at me, review all of the information he left you with, make sure you study how it relates to the subject. Tesla was so keen on the significance of the self inductance that he suggests that you "ADD CHOKING COILS" when the self inductance isn't high enough, but you knew that......... Does that sound like a guy hell bent on getting rid of self inductance? Have you seen some of those machines he built, motors and generators? The coils are insanely over sized.....circuit has to have inertia.....listen to him, and learn from him, which circuit component is the seat of this inertia.....still think he wanted to neutralize self inductance? Here's what I think, "he wanted to get rid of the negative effects associated with self induction...." But who am I....what do I know....I am a speculator. Now go back and re read all that stuff you read where Tesla talks about self inductance and note the word "effects".

This discussion isn't going anywhere. I saw that video you made.....seriously? You can do better, and I am not just talking about the build!


Regards

[Ajay]

This is not a joke at all erfinder. The coils capacitance may be the key to the proper operation of this device. In the words of Tesla, "A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electrically connected in series and having a potential ditference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth."
That is found in this patent, which ironically, was designed for "Coils for Electro-Magnets and other Apparatus". Patent #512,340

http://www.google.com/patents/US512340

Tesla knew that with increased capacitance comes diminished self inductance, so he designed a coil to operate with high capacitance for alternating current applications, such as the Kromrey.

[erfinder]

Here is another great link on these type of generators:

http://www.overunity-theory.de/bht/bht.htm

If I understand what you are saying, Faraday, you think the capacitance can be increased and the impedance decreased if the coils that are in parallel on each iron stator pole are wound in opposite directions? In other words, are you saying that they would be like the Tesla pancake coils if they are wound opposite directions with each layer of coil added in order to change the mutual inductance of the wire? I can see how this might " choke " out conventional current but I would think it would be less efficient because there would be much less of a capacitive effect to saturate the core if the coils contradicted each others CMF?

Now this is getting confusing, but at least we are getting somewhere.
Thanks,
Ajay

I'm done here.....this is a sick joke.....

[Ajay]

Here is another great link on these type of generators:

http://www.overunity-theory.de/bht/bht.htm

If I understand what you are saying, Faraday, you think the capacitance can be increased and the impedance decreased if the coils that are in parallel on each iron stator pole are wound in opposite directions? In other words, are you saying that they would be like the Tesla pancake coils if they are wound opposite directions with each layer of coil added in order to change the mutual inductance of the coils? I can see how this might " choke " out conventional current but I would think it would be less efficient because there would be much less of a capacitive effect to saturate the core if the coils contradicted each others CMF?

Now this is getting confusing, but at least we are getting somewhere.
Thanks,
Ajay

[erfinder]

oh man that is a great patent!!

Tom C

Hands down, the best I have seen on the subject, easy to follow and comprehend, written in a language that both veteran and new comer can appreciate. No funny talk, no Jedi mind tricks.


Regards

[Tom C]

oh man that is a great patent!!

Tom C

[erfinder]

I drop that awesome patent in your lap, and you to take a real fat creamy dump on it! Thanks!


Regards

[Faraday88]

Increase in a way yes but not in the way text books tell you...its not the Distributed Capacitance (or inter layer Capacitance) its is that component which is parallel to the conductive path of the Coils....
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

It'nt this similar to what JB has shown in his website (old site) and he calls it as the Flux -gate Transformer.... wonder how the Patent was granted..
Rgs,
Faraday88.

[Ajay]

Interesting, so by hooking up the coils in the way JB said in the video, you increase the CAPACITANCE of the coils, allowing for a countermagnetic field to be produced and saturate the core, causing repulsion. By increasing the magnetic flux and the number of turns of coil, the counter magnetic flux(CMF) generated by the wires can further saturate the core. For lower magnetic flux ratings such as mine, it may be more practical to lower the diameter of the iron stators in order to achieve quicker saturation of the cores from the CMF coming from the wires. Thanks for the link erfinder, that was a great read!