Kromrey Disclosure - Bedini SG - Beyond the Advanced Handbook by Peter Lindemann

[jason mcgrath]

Jason.

Yes the motor coils are also extended, its basically a Genny coil with a trigger winding added. and no its 24 volt charging. one bank of batteries rests after charging. the rotor magnets are triple stacked and captive in the assembly, the rotors were balanced to 3500 RPM also. if you download the presentation he explains it, he shows the switching pattern.

Tom C

Thanks Tom
Do you know what gauge wire on the motor coils and the generator coils they used?
jason

[Tom C]

Just a question to any one about the sg in Peters presentation.Are the 2 motor coils been extended 1 inch like the generator coils ?And another question all the batteries are at 24 volt so that must mean 48 volt is charging 24 volt?
cheers jason

Jason.

Yes the motor coils are also extended, its basically a Genny coil with a trigger winding added. and no its 24 volt charging. one bank of batteries rests after charging. the rotor magnets are triple stacked and captive in the assembly, the rotors were balanced to 3500 RPM also. if you download the presentation he explains it, he shows the switching pattern.

Tom C

[Faraday88]

Hi Jason,
These are the two dual coils of what they call it as the full regauge, however it goes beyond this.i to have a hard time to figure itout.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[jason mcgrath]

Just a question to any one about the sg in Peters presentation.Are the 2 motor coils been extended 1 inch like the generator coils ?And another question all the batteries are at 24 volt so that must mean 48 volt is charging 24 volt?
cheers jason

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[Faraday88]

Hi, Faraday,

Not sure either if that's metallurgy, but the more we find out about interactions of certain materials and
processes applied in the making of various compounds, the less it is a defined area of science (like metallurgy per se)
and everything just seems to mutate into some kind of techno-alchemy...

Remember Tesla: The highest ideal of the human race would be to transform/create the matter itself purely
by the influence of the mind.
(But until that stage i would gladly settle for a "vta kitchen recipe").

Rgds.
f.w.a.n.o.

Hi F.W.A.N.O,

Thanks for that little quote of Tesla..Great thought indeed! Mind over Matter that is....
Rgds,
Faraday88.

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[Faraday88]

Hi,

barium, strontium and other elements are also used to make colorful fireworks, so maybe grinding ferrite into
fine dust and burning it with a high temperature torch (metal cutting torch for example) could possibly
be helpful in determining barium or strontium content in the magnets.

Barium would give the flame green colour and strontium would make it red.

However, such testing would produce toxic fumes making the whole procedure a health hazard unless
it's done in some kind of a sealed chamber (with the experimenter residing outside of it, obviously).

http://sciencenotes.org/firework-colors-chemistry/ <------- firework colors depending on the
elements which are added to the ka-pow mixture.

Besides that, BaFe magnets are way weaker than the SrFe variety, especially the isotropic ones,
while both varieties can be produced as isotropic or anisotropic.

It all depends on whether the ferrite dust is pressed while under the influence of a magnetic field
which makes the magnet anisotropic (can be magnetized only in one direction), or without the initial
magnetic field which leaves the grains unoriented, thus making the magnet isotropic (can be magnetized
in any direction).

Not sure about the grade (grain size, etc.), but most barium magnets i've seen had a dull (non-shiny),
gray-ish surface and more pronounced grains as opposed to strontium ones which are more shiny and towards
a black shade of grey, but then again, i'm not a magnet expert...

Regards,
f.w.a.n.o.

Hi F.W.A.N.O,

Can this study be classified as among the Metallurgy ...???? i'm not sure!! but these various combination of doping in ferromagnetic materials, the process of thermal treatment, ect.. is altogether a specialized art, i'm surely not one though! any study gets intricate when one does a deep dive search!!
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

There does appear to be two types of ceramic magnets according to one manufacture that describes: "Strontium Ferrite (SrO.6Fe2O3) magnets and Barium Ferrite (BaO.6Fe2O3)
magnets are the two types of ceramic Ferrite magnet. The Strontium Ferrite magnets are the most commonly manufactured due to having stronger magnetic properties.".

See: http://www.eclipsemagnetics.com/medi...tasheet_v1.pdf

They are BOTH 'ceramic magnets'

And in Peter's presentation of "beyond the advanced handbook" John points out that the magnets are very old and "dead" then Peter specifically says these are "Barium Ferrite magnets from the 1970s".

So I guess this project is on hold for now because I was planning on using the ceramic magnets I have on hand but most likely; these are Strontium Ferrite magnets and it appears that John is saying it's just doesn't work well unless Barium Ferrite magnets are used. Do not know why. Does John have an explanation for this?''

Maybe Tom does. Also seems that a Barium Ferrit magnet can be or should be "conditioned".
See: http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/070904.htm

Also: Is there a test to CONFIRM a particular magnet is Barium Ferrite? How do we ensure a manufacturer is actually providing what we ordered if both types look the same?

Please respond.

Kindest regards;

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Hi Scorch,

I too have very old Magnets as old as JB's original experiment days(1984) I was 10 years of age then ..!!! yes 30 + years... Ring ceramic Magnets(Hard ferrite) that were bought for Magnetic Therapy for one of aunt she was told by the therapist to hold them in a perticular fashion for a period of time to get treated by it, also, A bottle of Water to be treated were kept on these Magnets rings.. to be 'Magnetically' excited (some how ..!) these Magnets seem to have become relatively weak over the years but have held on to their 'Charge' nevertheless..!! (recall JB saying A magnet once charged is for ever...)
about conditioning of the Ba Fe Magnets..yes it is in how they are Polarized to give you a MONOPOLE geometry whilst using a single Magnet( a single Magnet is a Dipole)... the study remains one that i still ponder much on
Rgds,
Faraday88.

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[Scorch]

There does appear to be two types of ceramic magnets according to one manufacture that describes: "Strontium Ferrite (SrO.6Fe2O3) magnets and Barium Ferrite (BaO.6Fe2O3)
magnets are the two types of ceramic Ferrite magnet. The Strontium Ferrite magnets are the most commonly manufactured due to having stronger magnetic properties.".

See: http://www.eclipsemagnetics.com/medi...tasheet_v1.pdf

They are BOTH 'ceramic magnets'

And in Peter's presentation of "beyond the advanced handbook" John points out that the magnets are very old and "dead" then Peter specifically says these are "Barium Ferrite magnets from the 1970s".

So I guess this project is on hold for now because I was planning on using the ceramic magnets I have on hand but most likely; these are Strontium Ferrite magnets and it appears that John is saying it's just doesn't work well unless Barium Ferrite magnets are used. Do not know why. Does John have an explanation for this?''

Maybe Tom does. Also seems that a Barium Ferrit magnet can be or should be "conditioned".
See: http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/070904.htm

Also: Is there a test to CONFIRM a particular magnet is Barium Ferrite? How do we ensure a manufacturer is actually providing what we ordered if both types look the same?

Please respond.

Kindest regards;

}:>

Hi Tom C,
Thanks very much for that little hint... but i'm baffled still by the difference between calling it Ceramic and Ba Fe Magnets..are'nt they same..???
my personal understanding about is that ant other Magnets if used would be ELECTRICALLY conductive as opposed to Ceramic or Ba Fe types..
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[jason mcgrath]

In fact that is real learning jason!!!in my early days i did a lot of learning first hand rather than know things from others..especially in Electrostatics...i some time wonder..too
much of information available is misleading as well!! we tend to succumb to the 'filth of Knowledge'...of late i have realized that i have done too much of one thing.. its time i mutate and exhibit to myself the crux of wrestling between the Theory and Experiment...
Rgds,
Faraday88.

I totally agree yes it is real learning.I can see how John Bedini has got us to start from scratch .Having those top and bottom wires around the wrong way was a learning experience as well cheers jason

[Faraday88]

Well Faraday, ask yourself that question, why BARIUM? what is it about the atomic structure that allows it to be really efficient at pulling energy from the quantum state? John has 2 indentical Kromreys, the one he runs and the other one that has ceramics, as John has said, "its a piece of crap" so the guy who builds them tells me how. I know guys with neo mag versions of the Kromrey, they don't work...


I like listening to JB, He has already forgotten more than I will ever learn.


Tom C

Hi Tom C,
Thanks very much for that little hint... but i'm baffled still by the difference between calling it Ceramic and Ba Fe Magnets..are'nt they same..???
my personal understanding about is that ant other Magnets if used would be ELECTRICALLY conductive as opposed to Ceramic or Ba Fe types..
Rgds,
Faraday88.