Kromrey Disclosure - Bedini SG - Beyond the Advanced Handbook by Peter Lindemann

[jason mcgrath]

Hi Tom C,

I noticed that in the video one rotor has the mags labeled N and the other rotor has them labeled S.

Can you help with that?

One more question, if I may, what is the D of the rotors in the vid?

Thanks,

bro d

I was going to ask the same question about the North and south on the 2 rotors .
jason

[brodonh]

Hi Tom C,

I noticed that in the video one rotor has the mags labeled N and the other rotor has them labeled S.

Can you help with that?

One more question, if I may, what is the D of the rotors in the vid?

Thanks,

bro d

[brodonh]

Hi All,

Very Interesting Observation!

I used a 60amp ultrafast diode with the Golf Cart batts and the 8coiler.

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=STTH6010WYvirtualkey51120000virtualkey511-STTH6010WY

2 fluke 87V meters showed 139vDC between the positives.

11.2Amp draw into machine, 225v waveform on the scope. No ghost spikes.

Also the charge batt was not moving up, stuck at 13.4v

Diode was on substantial heatsink and the body of the diode was around 150degF.

I didn't check the amperage through the diode.

I then put on a 40amp slow diode and the waveform voltage was at 30volts and the charge batt begin charging again.

My 8 coiler is designed to be a total amp hog, with big neos on both ends of the run ,coils. So it can't be considered a standard SSG config.

Looks like diode recovery speed is major concern.

Looking forward to Peter L's next report.

Bro d

[Faraday88]

no that is not correct.

Tom C

Thanks any ways.. need to get the book and understand it first hand...
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Tom C]

Hi Tom C,

Did you mean to say that the genny coil has a Trigger coil in addition to the already present trigger coil in the motor coils.
and having them connected in series adding.. is the trigger coil left free and employed to trigger along with the trigger coil of the motor (ssg) coil..?
Thank you,
Rgds,
Faraday88.

no that is not correct.

Tom C

[Gary Hammond]

Hi Bro,

Hi All,

PS we have to question the long term effect of the rotating system, because we are, to a large degree, charging and running with radiant.

It is common knowledge that if one continues to swap batteries in a 2 batt ssg setup, then they will eventually fail to function due to the effect of running and charging with radiant.

I'm seeing 3+amps of current from the gen coil windings into the charge batt in my 8 coiler setup, (referring to gen winding on run coils) so there is a mixture of radiant and normal.

It would be good for Peter L to comment on this.

We may well have to account for the issue to keep one permanently running 24/7.

According to Peter's presentation, the charging that occurs is like that of an old automotive DC generator. It's flat line current followed by a radiant spike, and is the preferred method of charging. As I understand it, this is beneficial to the battery and not harmful over the long term.

The split positive operating current provides the flat line current for charging, and the inductive spike (radiant) comes at the end of each current pulse to further the charge (free energy) and condition the battery. This combined method of charging is what John was after from the beginning of his research. At least that's what I took away from the presentation. And the short rest time allows for the just charged battery to fully absorb all the charge before being placed under load. Otherwise, the continous rotation over the long term (which was also inferred) wouldn't be something to develop.

Peter?

[brodonh]

Hi All,

I tried the splt pos config with golf cart batteries running an 8 coiler and it looks very promising for use with the 4 batt rotating system.

I'll build a heftier version of the 4battRsys with 60Amp relays rather than 8amp and report if it works OK.

The cost is mounting as usual.

bro d

PS we have to question the long term effect of the rotating system, because we are, to a large degree, charging and running with radiant.

It is common knowledge that if one continues to swap batteries in a 2 batt ssg setup, then they will eventually fail to function due to the effect of running and charging with radiant.

I'm seeing 3+amps of current from the gen coil windings into the charge batt in my 8 coiler setup, (referring to gen winding on run coils) so there is a mixture of radiant and normal.

It would be good for Peter L to comment on this.

We may well have to account for the issue to keep one permanently running 24/7.

[Faraday88]

Jason.

Yes the motor coils are also extended, its basically a Genny coil with a trigger winding added. and no its 24 volt charging. one bank of batteries rests after charging. the rotor magnets are triple stacked and captive in the assembly, the rotors were balanced to 3500 RPM also. if you download the presentation he explains it, he shows the switching pattern.

Tom C

Hi Tom C,

Did you mean to say that the genny coil has a Trigger coil in addition to the already present trigger coil in the motor coils.
and having them connected in series adding.. is the trigger coil left free and employed to trigger along with the trigger coil of the motor (ssg) coil..?
Thank you,
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Tom C]

Don,

yes in series.

Tom C

[brodonh]

Hi Tom C,

The 8 strands in the genny coil:
Are they configured in series?
Thanks,
bro d

[brodonh]

Thanks Gary,
Great price, huh?

I've got the 4 batt rotation sys working with a bike wheel and now I want to upgrade to 4 pairs of golf cart batts and my 8 coiler which has 8 gen coils.

bro d

[Gary Hammond]

Hi Bro,

Actually it was MUR 3060.

I ordered mine from https://www.newark.com/multicomp/mur...SX9OfOaXwfE%3D

[brodonh]

Hi All,
Didn't PL say that the ultrafast diode being used in the vid was MUR360.
If so, is there a source.
I've been able to locate surface mount only which is MUR360S.

Thanks,
bro d

[jason mcgrath]

8 strands 18 for the genny coils add a strand of 20 for the trigger. you actually get more turns with fewer strands. the ones I made for myself are 4 strands of 18, I like how they work. I have the wood coil holders, and I can print the spools also. let me know what parts you need. Erik and I fabbed the parts for peter, it was his configuration.

Tom C

Thanks for that .How do i order your 3d printed coils and wooden coil holders.Then i could actually see the size of them.
cheers jason

[Tom C]

Thanks Tom
Do you know what gauge wire on the motor coils and the generator coils they used?
jason

8 strands 18 for the genny coils add a strand of 20 for the trigger. you actually get more turns with fewer strands. the ones I made for myself are 4 strands of 18, I like how they work. I have the wood coil holders, and I can print the spools also. let me know what parts you need. Erik and I fabbed the parts for peter, it was his configuration.

Tom C