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  • ZPDM
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    Tom,

    Kudos on a job well done!

    Dave Wing and Bruno please accept my humblest apologies for my previous comment I was both ignorant and paranoid. Bruno for some reason I suspected you were trying to take the board off track from a promising technology, I have seen this occur before with someone asking incessant questions never getting anywhere and being vaguely dismissive of the tech, I think now this is more often what I do. Bruno, I was wrong please pardon me, ignorance and cynicism are a potent mix. So you are a hero of mine and I feel confident you will continue your progress towards your goal, you are in the right place.

    In my defense, to get far off topic, it is a little stressful to have a fraudulent million dollar bill hanging over your head from the federal government for multiple years. Not many here may lay claim to a net worth of negative multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars through no fault of their own Thankfully with the repeated help of my congressman things appear to finally be moving in the right direction while my consulting business is improving quite nicely going forward.

    My slightly off topic contribution in this area. I took a bit of Dave Wing's idea where he was talking about ways of using the common ground. If you have say a set-up with two batteries and one battery with a common ground the question might be what do you run from/between them? If you run an oscillator would you not be tapping the batteries in the Tesla switch manner? I tried this with a Joule thief w/o much luck, I also tried it with my ZPDM oscillator and ended up after lots of tweaking with .03 volts more on four AA batteries after three hours. Every change I made after that worsened things and I don't know why, so now I am going to try and put a whole lot of secondary winds on a coil and see if I can also grab some one wire power. While almost negligible, I have never seen anything off one wire power that changes anything else significantly in terms of increased amp draw that is going on in the rest of the circuit. Along these lines, and I would do it if I had time now, I don't, someone might run a pulse motor from a 2 bat, one bat common ground set-up and see if it does better than just running off the one battery, it is a fair guess it might.

    I won't have time for awhile to contribute (if I ever did) here much for awhile, though hopefully more in future. JB, Peter, Aaron etc., while you didn't save my life or anything, I think if I hadn't stumbled into this and you hadn't been so kind I might have ground down my teeth a bit. Many times I fell asleep thinking of how one might wind this coil or connect this circuit (it helped having so little knowledge in the area) after first thinking on more troubling matters.

    Lastly, and now it is I taking things very off topic, if one wants to look into various areas, in an armageddon type situation, if what Velko Melkovic is saying about mechanical power is valid it is huge. a) This doesn't concern the vast pool of negative energy it is simply mechanical b) if pendulums and levers set-up correctly are OU it allows one to reboot a society. Second, I think spinning things are quite interesting, even down to the level of Euclidean geometry.

    Tom, again that build is very impressive, thank you for your frequent guidance and insight.

    Ciao for now,

    Paul "Duffy"

    Edit: Very last thing, if you want to make money build a space heater that is 20% better. I think you could build an induction based space heater but that is neither here nor there. Secretaries don't buy battery chargers, they buy space heaters and one a little better would do a lot of good.
    Last edited by ZPDM; 01-30-2015, 05:28 AM.

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  • John_Koorn
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    Nice work Tom!

    My TS is almost built. I don't have a board, it's all point to point. Will get a pic up over the weekend.

    Slowly getting back into it after a bit of a break.

    John K.

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  • Tom C
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    T/S ran approx. 12 hours, four - 7 amp hour SLA werker brand. so its 24 volts to 12 volt dump. transistors were cool to the touch. 2 batteries stayed the same voltage, 1 battery up .3 volts other battery up .1 volts, these batteries were not fully charged, I did however place the "lowest" batteries in the dump spot. if you have 2 batteries in series being batteries 1 and 2, then the other side batteries 3 and 4, dumping to battery 2 and to battery 4 so the 24 volts was dumping to the lower of the 2 in the bank. these are the 2 that rose in voltage. good test so far but need to find out what frequency the battery likes, what the resonant state is in terms of frequency. lots of testing to come. need to swap battery position every few hours and see what happens.

    interestingly enough after a resting off charge you expect the voltage to drop, but the resting voltage did not change after sitting an hour off the T/S

    batt 1 start 12.48 end 12.48
    batt 2 start 12.17 end 12.18
    batt 3 start 12. 37 end 12 .37
    batt 4 start 12.27 end 12.30 trending towards .31

    Tom C

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  • James McDonald
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    "The minimum order is 1200, so maybe someone could buy 1200 and we can all purchase from them. With a lead time of 3 months."

    I have purchased a reel of 1200 SB570 diodes but I will not have them till 13 weeks from today. Anyone that may want
    to purchase some from me when I receive them can. Prices will depend on the amount you buy in one purchase.

    James McDonald

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  • James McDonald
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    Originally posted by Tom C View Post
    James,

    we want to support John's work, therefore we ask that each person own a copy of the DVD for personal use. so please support JB encouraging others to purchase as you have done.

    Tom C

    Okay thats fair I did not want to inhibit DVD sales but a few of the people here were asking for a schematic
    and they had already purchased the DVD set and watched it at least once. Myself I will have to watch the DVD
    at least 3 times to absorb all the information packed into this 2 DVD set. If you have not purchased this 2 DVD
    set yet I would have to say that the amount information on the two DVD's set will allow you to build the Tesla
    Switch from scratch. Please watch it a few times and use your pause button to copy all the parts of the schematic
    from the DVD's.

    James McDonald

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  • Tom C
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    T/S is running

    Hi Everyone,

    my T/S has been running for a few hours now, just getting used to how it runs. I had a bad SG chip and it was running 2x faster off pin 11 than off of pin 14. swapped out the chip and it is running great. here is a pic of it, scope shots will follow eventually. this was a great project for me, got to use my etching tank, do a bunch of trouble shooting and even correct a bunch of my own stupid mistakes. building this helps you understand the switching protocol better than just drawing it out. diodes are SB560 I think the rectifier can be less expensive ones as can the diode for the voltage regulator.

    Tom C

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  • Tom C
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    James,

    we want to support John's work, therefore we ask that each person own a copy of the DVD for personal use. so please support JB encouraging others to purchase as you have done.

    Tom C

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  • John_Koorn
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    James, I would say no. Just in case.

    John K.

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  • James McDonald
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    Originally posted by Tom C View Post
    1- the schematic is on the dvd he holds it up there is a still photo. there is also a photo of the circuit board itself, trace side.

    2- he is powering the radio with it.

    3- not sure what you are talking about. the full schematic is all you need for a complete switch. please refer to the time on the dvd I will watch it again.

    Tom C
    Hi Tom --

    I also have the 2 DVD set on the Tesla Switch and I remember seeing the board and the
    schematic held up by John Bedini but it might not be as clear due to its size and distance from the camera.
    However John Bedini does show all the parts while he is going over how it works and if you know a little
    electronics you can piece together the parts. I am currently making a PDF schematic of the Tesla Switch
    for myself. Are we allowed to help other by giving them the PDF??? Would I need permission from John Bedini
    first???

    James

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  • bruno
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    Hi Dave,
    I now know what to do this week, thx. Until now I never saw the tesla magnifying transmitter nor the TS as something based upon the retroreflection.
    So indeed it will be important to understand this phenomenon better.

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  • Dave Wing
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    Originally posted by bruno View Post
    Hello Dave,
    I did some reading on the "retroflection" in Tom Beardens book and on page 197-198 the chapter "4.4 Tesla's iterative retroflection work" I saw that in figure 4.5 there are 2 reflectors with in the middle the load.
    Because in the past I did some experiments with Konstantin Meyl experiment kit for one wire energy transfer I thought that maybe if I use the 2 tesla coils (same resonance frequency) used in the Konstantin kit as the reflectors, maybe you poor in more vacuum energy?
    Maybe I can replace the battery resonance part with tesla coil resonance? To bad I can't puls the TS with 2,5Mhz which is the least resonance frequency of the coils in the test kit.
    Otherwise I would replace the "power source" in Tom Bearden fig 4-5 with the TS output and the 2 reflectors with the tesla coils, because I know the resonance frequency of the coils but not off the batteries.

    I've read in the book that a simple LC circuit in resonance can not deliver cop > 1 but what about this possible setup?

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    I'm now testing the tesla switch with my 8051 microcontroller expermint board because the duty is perfectly 50/50. Yesterday I could light a led for few houres without discharging the batteries but it has to run longer before I can certainly say that the batteries are not depleting.
    Hi Bruno,

    The way I see it the TS performs retroreflection across the negative terminal, it generates an AC wave across the load, which is just a time reversed DC current. Do some more searching on retroreflection and Tom Bearden on the net it will uncover some very valuable information.

    -Dave Wing

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  • bruno
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    Hello Dave,
    I did some reading on the "retroflection" in Tom Beardens book and on page 197-198 the chapter "4.4 Tesla's iterative retroflection work" I saw that in figure 4.5 there are 2 reflectors with in the middle the load.
    Because in the past I did some experiments with Konstantin Meyl experiment kit for one wire energy transfer I thought that maybe if I use the 2 tesla coils (same resonance frequency) used in the Konstantin kit as the reflectors, maybe you poor in more vacuum energy?
    Maybe I can replace the battery resonance part with tesla coil resonance? To bad I can't puls the TS with 2,5Mhz which is the least resonance frequency of the coils in the test kit.
    Otherwise I would replace the "power source" in Tom Bearden fig 4-5 with the TS output and the 2 reflectors with the tesla coils, because I know the resonance frequency of the coils but not off the batteries.

    I've read in the book that a simple LC circuit in resonance can not deliver cop > 1 but what about this possible setup?

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    I'm now testing the tesla switch with my 8051 microcontroller expermint board because the duty is perfectly 50/50. Yesterday I could light a led for few houres without discharging the batteries but it has to run longer before I can certainly say that the batteries are not depleting.
    Last edited by bruno; 01-25-2015, 11:21 AM.

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  • bruno
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    An extra clarification:
    I measured for example that when a puls is given it takes 5 micro seconds before the transistor output starts to react. Therefore I whas thinking to have a puls on the SG3524 not exactly 50/50 accounting for the 5 micro seconds but at the end after the transistors end with an exact 50/50 duty.
    And this also for the off delay's.
    I hope you understand what I mean.
    Last edited by bruno; 01-22-2015, 03:59 PM.

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  • bruno
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    Hi Dave,
    I studied the pulses to see where differences where with the 50/50 duty.
    Because it's not clear how great the working zone is in milli or micro seconds between charging and no charging, I wanted to find out how the switching looks like after the optos and transistors because off the delays caused by all the components. Now I know where and how much the delays are, I can try to make them more accurate to the 50/50 duty on the final switching and not direct on the outputs of the SG3524. Because if we talk about resonance in- or outside the battery I think the working zone is very small as is always the case with resonance so far I know (I'm not an expert). It could be that it's totally unnecessary to go into the micro second range for a working TS, but I have no charging with the delays I've measured, so I thaught that the only way is more accurate switching.
    Last edited by bruno; 01-22-2015, 03:48 PM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    Hi Guys,

    I am not sure what you guys are doing in your switching but I wanted to try and clear things up a little. In the image below there are two different on and off times, one for the motor and one for the energizer. These two seperate DC pulse waveforms can be explained as both providing a positve 50/50 duty cycle... That is exactly what we are looking for in the Tesla Switch, what you take from side "A" you must put back into side "A" from side"B" and vice versa... it has to be 50/50 or it will not work properly. Now you have only to choose the length of time you want any side to be on for. Each side could be on for 1 minute, 10 minutes, 60 times per second or whatever you choose, it is still a 50/50 duty cycle as long as you do it equally to each side. This is called retroflection.
    Image taken from.. http://www.icehouse.net/john1/index11.html


    Any comments welcome.

    -Dave Wing
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