The SG Radiant Oscillator

[nickle989]

okay, so what is the limitations then, how long does the battery last on when loaded? is it the limit of the load put to much strain on it? or the AH rating of the battery.

When I made my wind turbine and had it tested in the wind tunnel it achieved over the Betz limit, because of the design I also designed a special generator as it was much better to only take of the top 18% with the load, that way it maintained its RPM and the Kinetic energy enhancement. Is this what is also happening with the SSG circuits? I ask these questions because I have a different approach and a way of looking on things.

It is better for accelerated development/refinement when learning from other's success and failures.

Thanks

[Faraday88]

Radiant Charging of Battries show the following charateristics:

1) Charge times are 50 times faster.
2) The Battries under go 'Cold -Boiling' :you can here the BBs if you keep your ears close to the battries when they are peak charged.(Typically the charge battery is at over 15V !!!!!at this point)
3) if your run battery is Loaded (Light bulb), while you charge another battery, the Charging gets faster.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[nickle989]

Thanks Tom,

Quick question for anyone, lots of folks have replicated the SSG / Battery Charger - Runner and the Joule Thief's for more power out... but I do not see posted run times etc. The crystal battery that I have in my thread shows no sign of stopping anytime soon, what I would like to do now is take the continous energy from that and dump it to a larger battery etc. When I am looking at the circuits it looks like that batteries are the same size etc. Wondering what other's have experienced, the good, the bad and the ugly. Thanks.

[Tom C]

John B, so many threads etc to search for them all, could you post the schematic of the occilator, thanks.

or if someone gets to it first, possible for someone to post working schmatic of the radiant occilator, I have seen a couple here, but want to make sure, and want to build one this weekend. Thanks for the help.

Patent # US 7,990,110.

[nickle989]

John B, so many threads etc to search for them all, could you post the schematic of the occilator, thanks.

or if someone gets to it first, possible for someone to post working schmatic of the radiant occilator, I have seen a couple here, but want to make sure, and want to build one this weekend. Thanks for the help.

[axxelxavier]

Min2oly,
Thanks for your appreciations, it's my first you tube video, so I still have much to learn on this (by the way, I do like your videos, I've watched many of them. And I do like, also, that your kids are involved in this, too - it reminds my 7 years son, which helps me, between lessons, in wind coils and so on).
Yeah, the sniffer coil it's a good suggestion, thought it's more dangerous, in my opinion, compared with a steady voltage from a voltage divisor. If the sniffer coil it's to close to the main coil, the over voltage could easily toast my audio card at least. But it worth a try, after many measurements, and after taking all necessary precautions.
Wishing all the best,
Teodor
P.S. - axxelxavier it's a pseudonym, of course...

[min2oly]

Thank you, min2oly.
I will search further on this subjects. It seems like the oscilloscope is a must for tuning SS, SSG and working with radiant spikes. I can't afford one now, so I think I will try a PC based software which it's using sound card, with a voltage divisor (home made) probes (I only hope I will not toast my laptop...).
Anyway, you do have some very interesting setups, maybe you should make a specific thread with CPD mode, and with your results. Just a suggestion. Actually, I did tried to replicate your work, but I'm not sure about the results.... it seems you haven't seen my reply on the bedini SSG multi coil thread, from here

I doubt that people are as lame as I am about keeping track of threads on this forum, just in case, I replied here
I like your methods of keeping an eye/ear on tuning, very nice!
yes, you can also use the "audio in" on your PC don't connect any wires directly, unless you know what you are doing, but you can make a small sniffer coil and monitor the oscillations.
kind regards,
Patrick

[axxelxavier]

Thank you, min2oly.
I will search further on this subjects. It seems like the oscilloscope is a must for tuning SS, SSG and working with radiant spikes. I can't afford one now, so I think I will try a PC based software which it's using sound card, with a voltage divisor (home made) probes (I only hope I will not toast my laptop...).
Anyway, you do have some very interesting setups, maybe you should make a specific thread with CPD mode, and with your results. Just a suggestion. Actually, I did tried to replicate your work, but I'm not sure about the results.... it seems you haven't seen my reply on the bedini SSG multi coil thread, from here

[min2oly]

@beginner question(s):
how can we be sure that our charging it's a radiant type, and not a "standard" low current charge? How can we identify radiant charging?

hello axxelxavier,

study what a "standard" low current charge is, as well as Back EMF. Once you know what that is. take a look on the scope, or even the hundreds of u-tube vids of scope shots, or the pics on this site. knowing what "standard" current is and looking at the scope shots, you can easily discern that it is not possible to charge these batteries with the amount of "standard" low current that exists in these energizers. Do the runs, measure the current(supply) in vs the energy the charge battery puts out.
Hope this helps.
kind regards,
Patrick

[axxelxavier]

@beginner question(s):
which type of oscillator it's best for charging 7Amp/hour lead acid batteries, and which it's better for use with larger setup?
Inverted trigger it's superior to the classic oscillator with voltage divisor (10k and 18 k resistors on the base of the transistor)?
I have a single transistor setup - MJL21196 (npn), 0,5 mm trifilar coil with R60 rods core, one wire for trigger and two wires for power, hooked up as reversed trigger (trigger down wire connected to power up wire), which charge a 3,2 Amp/hour in 10 hours at 200 miliamp/hour current draw from source, and a 120~miliamp charging input. I forget to say, the neon it's lighting intensely purple if the charging battery it's disconnected. This battery was charged many times before with SSG, with different SS oscillators, and discharging behavior it's now constant, 10 to almost 11 hours. It's a normal charge time, or it can be improved somehow?
Finally, the big ending question: how can we be sure that our charging it's a radiant type, and not a "standard" low current charge? How can we identify radiant charging?

[Faraday88]

Thanks alot John..!
Best Regards,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Hi RS,

Just to add to what John says here, if your Radiant Set up is in correct, the 'forced Trigger' configuration does not work

The Radiant Oscillator is a Cross-Coupled Inverted Circuit. this gives the Bias current that J.B mentions.
the other thing, the split diode can do : 1) Charge a single battery dedicatedly
2) Charge multiple battries hooked in Inverted fasion to the common node.

Rgds,
Faraday88.

[John_Koorn]

Hi Faraday88,

The 2N3055 will work if you want something to study. Just don't drive it too hard. I haven't used BUX80, so can't say.

My weapons of choice depending on build size are 2N2222, BDC243C, MJ15024G and MJL21194.

John K.

[Faraday88]

Hi John,

Wanted to know if the Oscillator can be built using 2n3055?
or does it have to be 250V Plus device.
I have few of BUX 80 Transitors with me, must be ideal for the Oscillator,
help me please.
Thank you,
Best Regards,
Faraday88.

[teej_seeker]

Hi Folks,

Any more updates on the SG oscillator? I am planning to build one as per the patent and am taking notes based on the forum discussions. Any new insights from those who are replicating this oscillator?

sincerely,

t_s