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  • Dave Wing
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    Here is some more info… The highlighted words, in the image were taken from this thread.

    https://www.energyscienceforum.com/f...age4#post29873

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    If you build the rotor and coil sections with increased length, as described in the above image, you can even turn a conventional generator and have it send a high rate of feedback to the front end. Smaller motor rotor diameter will give more motor speed to turn a generator, you will sacrifice some tourque to get the proper speed, to get enough output from your generator. That is why we elongate the rotor and coils to overcome our tourque losses associated with increased motor speeds.

    As Paul Babcock explained longer larger diameter wire will increase flyback energy and give you a lot more magnetism in your coil core, for the same amount of energy expended. If you take two coils and compare them, one with 40 awg wire at 5 ohms and then another 10awg wire coil at 5 ohms which one has more magnetism and which one will yield more flyback energy? The 10 awg coil could be 30 times the size of the 40 awg coil. One could easily see a coil 30 times bigger will produce a lot more rotor torque and flyback energy than the smaller coil. It should also be again noted that each coil (10 awg vs 40 awg) will have the same current draw, from the primary battery, as ohm’s law states. So let’s make those coils big and quit messing around with those flea power machines with small dinky coils.

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    Last edited by Dave Wing; 12-12-2023, 09:21 AM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    I hope it is clear that a North Pole generates a positive and a negative waveform, the SSG handbooks also show this aspect. When you install magnets on their sides into any SSG rotor and hook a scope across the power coil and display the waveform you will find the waveform will become more positive when you rotate it in one direction and more negative when rotated in the other direction. On my machine this equates to 2:1 charging ratio (ratio being: 2 = primary charging to 1= secondary charging) or the reverse if you rotate it the rotor in the other direction (ratio being: 1 = primary charging to 2 = secondary charging).

    This is would be an asymmetrical waveform producing machine which I believe makes a motor or generator very efficient.


    Again in this video John talks about the generator waveform that may look like a more positive or may look like a more negative waveform.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/wLVLHQhMM...F329egYA2nYQ-7



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    The image above is the screen shot image of John’s generator waveform drawings I hand drew in the other portion of the waveform so it could be understood better.

    The image below is my test wheel scope shot, the wheel consists of 3 magnets on the wheel, with two North poles facing the power coil and the middle magnet is laid upon its side and produces the waveform John Bedini shows and Thomas Bearden talks about. If you rotate the wheel one way the center waveform stays with the bulk of the waveform being negative and if the wheel is rotated the other way the bulk of the waveform is more positive. This was just a test so I could compare the waveforms on the scope.

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  • Dave Wing
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    The SSG splits the positive and negative waveform of the North Pole into two separate charging signals that each charge the primary and secondary batteries separately. The secondary battery receives a extra additional portion which is the coil collapse.

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    This diagram below is exactly what is happening with a cycle of the SSG when using a power coil and a North Pole rotor, anything over 6 volts will charge the batteries in the image below.

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    Last edited by Dave Wing; 12-04-2023, 03:34 PM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    Here is a schematic of the Ron Cole generator…

    Notice it uses bar magnets with the poles outwards, as labeled in the schematic. Go up and look closer of the images of this machine you can see that there are 3 rectangular bar magnets stacked one on top of the other to make one bar magnet. North on one end and South on the other end.

    This particular machine makes a positive then a negative waveform when rotated in one direction and if rotated in the opposite direction it will be a negative then a positive waveform. When looking at the peaks of both the positive and negative waveform’s you see a dip in the peak of the waveform, this dip is from the air space between each rotor magnet.

    The image below was taken from John Bedini’s pages, here is the link… https://www.icestuff.com/~energy21/bedmot.htm

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    Last edited by Dave Wing; 12-04-2023, 06:29 AM. Reason: Corrections and adding more info

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  • Dave Wing
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    Regarding this statement from John’s webpages, Gabriel Kron is quoted… “When the generator current is positive the circuit draws energy from the source, and when the current is negative the circuit pumps back energy into the source. At zero generator current the circuit neither gives nor takes energy, and theoretically the generator may be removed.”

    A North Pole face produces an alternating current type of waveform, it has a positive peak and a negative peak when the coil passes the face of a North Pole. The positive part of the waveform will charge the secondary battery and the negative part of the waveform will charge the primary battery.

    If we use the magnets to produce all negative waveforms it can help us recharge the primary battery or power the motor and it would aid us in energy efficiency and may even allow one to disconnect the primary battery from the machine and have it self power the system. But how do we do this? This is the area I am currently working in.

    Just so it is totally clear “At zero generator current the circuit neither gives nor takes energy, and theoretically the generator may be removed.” The generator in this case is the primary battery and it may be removed if the auxiliary system generator can supply enough current, so the battery doesn’t therefore need to supply current to the system or motor.

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    Last edited by Dave Wing; 12-20-2023, 12:28 AM.

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  • Dave Wing
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    Bearden talks of this waveform, where it warps (spins) one way it is positive and warp (spin) it the other way it is negative.

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  • Dave Wing
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    This image will explain it a little more, I doctored up this image of John’s notes to show how to run a motor or generator and the waveform it produces.

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    if you have no air gap in between the magnet and just use one solid magnet instead of two, you will get this waveform John Bedini describes as a Generator waveform, you spin the generator rotor one direction and get a stronger peak in one direction and spin the generator rotor the other direction you get a stronger peak waveform in the other direction. Just as John describes. Watch the short vid.

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  • Dave Wing
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    When looking at the waveform below and comparing it to the one above in Part 6 we can see that this image below was the early style or concept, Ron Cole at some point in his research advanced the concept to the second waveform that did not retrace back to the zero point on the scope. There was also a third concept he tried and it performed the best until the machine blew apart.

    Also when studying the image below we can see how closely that little machine and the scope shot resemble the Kromrey converter machine and the Kromrey converter waveform, so in saying this we need to make some advancements in our research, we need to advance to the second then to the third waveform or concept to achieve the desired results.

    What is the third, the last waveform? It could very well be as simple as moving the North and South a little closer together, a little tighter air gap between them so the core catches a little more of each magnet when passing or it could be two magnets, a North and South turned on its side 90 degrees, with a small air gap in between them. These two arrangements described do in fact produce the last or last concept waveform shown by Ron Cole.



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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 8

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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 7

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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 6

    - Image number 5, in this post is where the (((Cole motor))) is shown and it consists of all the images in Part number 7 and 8. The (((Cole Generator))) is all images above image number 5, on this post, some images above in Ron Cole’s lab notes show the motor and generator on the same shaft.

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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 5

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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 4

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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 3

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  • Dave Wing
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    Part 2


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