John Bedini's Magnetic Model

[elmar]

Elmar,

I don't believe that the glass case motor is in the superpole configuration. That motor originally is called the "Space Flux Motor". I'll be publishing notes on all of this later, which will be a first. It is very related to the window motor - actually, its practically the same thing and early on, these motor varieties were switched with a simple SG type switch and not the Cole-Bedini Bi-Polar switch, which came much later. He didn't even know Cole back then from what I gather. Anyway, the Space Flux Motor notes do show both superpole and normal single magnet pole configurations.

Aaron,

according to the book, in the "motor with the ball rotor inside the magnetic window coils", two neodymium-iron-boron magnets mounted into a plastic ball are used, assembled on an iron spacer.

However, it is not clear to me if they are superpole or not. They are rather not, I guess. I cannot imagine glueing two repelling neos together.

So I cut an iron rod and mounted two neos on it as suggested in the book. Holding another magnet near to it, one attracts, one repels, the neos adhere to the iron spacer.

For the time being, I can continue in my search for the Bedini glass case motor, making rotor, coil, plastic ball and basic configuration of circuit.

In the meantime, there may be others here on this forum who may mave heard of some details about that particular motor type.

I find this motor fascinating and I will stick to this for a while.

Thanks for help,

Elmar

[Aaron Murakami]

Patrick,

now I understand, they are forced together machanically. Super glueing is fine, I may build a 3D printed rotor to hold them in place.

It appears also to me there is very little on the Supe Pole Window Motor (Bedini Glass Case Motor) on the web, although it is well explained in the book (I forgot to mention, 2nd edition).

Thanks for replying, and help.

P.S.: https://youtu.be/mXuhoRlMKns?t=7m50s Yes the super north looks exactly like the sketch in the book

Elmar

Elmar,

I don't believe that the glass case motor is in the superpole configuration. That motor originally is called the "Space Flux Motor". I'll be publishing notes on all of this later, which will be a first. It is very related to the window motor - actually, its practically the same thing and early on, these motor varieties were switched with a simple SG type switch and not the Cole-Bedini Bi-Polar switch, which came much later. He didn't even know Cole back then from what I gather. Anyway, the Space Flux Motor notes do show both superpole and normal single magnet pole configurations.

[elmar]

use superglue to get the ss or nn to stick together, make sure the edge of the magnets that will face the coil are "even".

the aluminium mass connected to the fan spins from the lenz law produced by the magnets passing by.

John K talks about his superpole build NOT a window motor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsYhbA74VM

here's a quick visual on the poles: https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=mXuhoRlMKns

please pursue the Super Pole Window Motor, I have yet to see anyone else build it. Of course I can't see everything so if anyone else can point/link where someone has, please do.
Patrick

Patrick,

now I understand, they are forced together machanically. Super glueing is fine, I may build a 3D printed rotor to hold them in place.

It appears also to me there is very little on the Supe Pole Window Motor (Bedini Glass Case Motor) on the web, although it is well explained in the book (I forgot to mention, 2nd edition).

Thanks for replying, and help.

P.S.: https://youtu.be/mXuhoRlMKns?t=7m50s Yes the super north looks exactly like the sketch in the book

Elmar

[min2oly]

The super pole concept

Hello, I´m new here in this forum, this is my first post. I don´t want to create a new thread so this is the only reference I found on the forum regarding Bedini Glass Case Motor: The super pole concept.

I purchased the book Free Energy Generation, 2nd edition (Tom Bearden, cheniere.org) and associated DVD (#40). As I am writing this, I charge a 12V 59Ah lead/acid battery with a Bedini SG type- Device I built from an old PC fan.
By that I want to make sure that I know I am an absolute beginner in this but I study this only half a year now, and I am progressing...

My question is: In the above mentioned book there´s a booklet entitled "The Magnetic Window Motor", 1971. It´s right at the beginning of the book, on page 3. There I can read:

(Citation from the book):

"I, John Bedini, have invented a new type of electromagnetic motor. The motor uses mono poles, or super conducting ferrite magnets. The magnets aree put together in a very simple way...

By putting the magnets together in this simple way, we can get a super mono pole magnet. We can make up a super North and a super South. By arrangement of the mono poles in North and South configurations, we can make up a two-pole rotor, a six-pole rotor or a rotor of up to 12 poles...

This type of motor, however, needs no iron poles and runs inside a window coil..."

(End of Citation)

There are also graphics in between the lines that show a pair of magnets facing N-N and a pair facing S-S. The (equal) poles seem to attract each other.
In fact when I take a piece of steel I can attach two magnets on each side with the same pole, and on the outside of the magnets will be also N-N or S-S.

But in the book I see nothing in between the magnets, neither is there any explanation as to how John Bedini puts N-N or s-S together to create the super poles.

In the DVD John Bedini also points out that the aluminium cylinder spinning on top on this device (IMHO has a momentum on its own. He says aluminium can be magnetic, this has to do with the radiant field the motor generates, and the cylinder gets part of its spin from it. That´s why the axis of the Al cylinder is movable so that it can be arranged for the right resonance. He pointed out that the green LED or Neon lamps (I don´t know what lamps he used) function like a tesla switch. In fact, I see no wires attached to them. (all said IMHO).

I find it absolutely breathtaking, the motor runs on 6Volts, fed from a few battery cells. He did not replace them for years, they are crubmling apart at times but the cells are only important for the circuit he tells, not for the energy supply, awsome!

Sometimes he calls it the Bedini Glass-Case Motor.

I understand the super mono pole magnets that are used in this Window-Motor are an essential factor to it, but how to put them together? In a way that they radiate N-N or respectively S-.S on each side, sticking together at the same time?

Can anyone help on this or show me a topic on this forum where this has been already discussed?

By the way, I aimed at purchasing the book-series from Aaron Murakami already, which I will do in the nearer future. If there are any pinpointers or references regarding my question on these books I would also very much appreciate any help.

elmar

use superglue to get the ss or nn to stick together, make sure the edge of the magnets that will face the coil are "even".

the aluminium mass connected to the fan spins from the lenz law produced by the magnets passing by.

John K talks about his superpole build NOT a window motor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsYhbA74VM

here's a quick visual on the poles: https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=mXuhoRlMKns

please pursue the Super Pole Window Motor, I have yet to see anyone else build it. Of course I can't see everything so if anyone else can point/link where someone has, please do.
Patrick

[elmar]

The super pole concept

Hello, I´m new here in this forum, this is my first post. I don´t want to create a new thread so this is the only reference I found on the forum regarding Bedini Glass Case Motor: The super pole concept.

I purchased the book Free Energy Generation, 2nd edition (Tom Bearden, cheniere.org) and associated DVD (#40). As I am writing this, I charge a 12V 59Ah lead/acid battery with a Bedini SG type- Device I built from an old PC fan.
By that I want to make sure that I know I am an absolute beginner in this but I study this only half a year now, and I am progressing...

My question is: In the above mentioned book there´s a booklet entitled "The Magnetic Window Motor", 1971. It´s right at the beginning of the book, on page 3. There I can read:

(Citation from the book):

"I, John Bedini, have invented a new type of electromagnetic motor. The motor uses mono poles, or super conducting ferrite magnets. The magnets aree put together in a very simple way...

By putting the magnets together in this simple way, we can get a super mono pole magnet. We can make up a super North and a super South. By arrangement of the mono poles in North and South configurations, we can make up a two-pole rotor, a six-pole rotor or a rotor of up to 12 poles...

This type of motor, however, needs no iron poles and runs inside a window coil..."

(End of Citation)

There are also graphics in between the lines that show a pair of magnets facing N-N and a pair facing S-S. The (equal) poles seem to attract each other.
In fact when I take a piece of steel I can attach two magnets on each side with the same pole, and on the outside of the magnets will be also N-N or S-S.

But in the book I see nothing in between the magnets, neither is there any explanation as to how John Bedini puts N-N or s-S together to create the super poles.

In the DVD John Bedini also points out that the aluminium cylinder spinning on top on this device (IMHO has a momentum on its own. He says aluminium can be magnetic, this has to do with the radiant field the motor generates, and the cylinder gets part of its spin from it. That´s why the axis of the Al cylinder is movable so that it can be arranged for the right resonance. He pointed out that the green LED or Neon lamps (I don´t know what lamps he used) function like a tesla switch. In fact, I see no wires attached to them. (all said IMHO).

I find it absolutely breathtaking, the motor runs on 6Volts, fed from a few battery cells. He did not replace them for years, they are crubmling apart at times but the cells are only important for the circuit he tells, not for the energy supply, awsome!

Sometimes he calls it the Bedini Glass-Case Motor.

I understand the super mono pole magnets that are used in this Window-Motor are an essential factor to it, but how to put them together? In a way that they radiate N-N or respectively S-.S on each side, sticking together at the same time?

Can anyone help on this or show me a topic on this forum where this has been already discussed?

By the way, I aimed at purchasing the book-series from Aaron Murakami already, which I will do in the nearer future. If there are any pinpointers or references regarding my question on these books I would also very much appreciate any help.

elmar

[Faraday88]

Hi Aaron,
My best guess on the structure of the Magnetic Field for the SG/SSG/G-Field is based on the Sweet Floyed's criterion of 'conditioning' the magnet.
The Essence is in making the Bloch wall flip its position with the Poles....now what does that imply?...you have suddenly made the virtual become real..isn't it??
the Electrical gas surrounding the coil is now Dielectrically interacting with the Electrical Circuit of the coil---Battery and this is the Radiant gain that lowers the Batteries impedance..so we are dealing with the un-intercepted component (Heaviside) of the Field of solenoid(coil) that is normally wasted/and not coupled.
next... how do you get the Bloch wall do this???
Rgds,
Faraday88.

Hi Everyone!!
I would Highly recommend everyone to listen to Mr. Joe( the Joe cell Inventor.)
he enlightens in brief and repeatedly explains the nature of the '90 Degree Spike' that occurs in his set up of the Tesla coil (Ignition coil with primary and secondary coils) that is neither Positive or Negative which apparently emphasis that its Magnetic by Interaction, further he explains the 'single wire' involvement that passes through the solenoid...all characteristics of Tesla Radiant Energy and of course Bedini methods as well here:https://youtu.be/sO3T6r6UsYo https://youtu.be/GhZUcQTTcKg https://youtu.be/LDgUazM__sk although he doesn't call it that way.further the videos below show the relevance of the N-N squeeze and its 'capability' of Generating AC OR DC Electricity without moving parts here: https://youtu.be/iqD0du3I-hc https://youtu.be/nLXrsScMm1Q
something that relates the Sweet Flloyed and Bedini's 10 coiler super -pole N-N Squeeze.
I even think it is the JB's 1984 machine and Stanley Meyer's Rotary Pulsed Voltage Frequency Generator... see they are the same...
let me know you comments...
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Is one of the primary points to your experiment to make the superpole south stronger by actually using magnets instead of what the other magnets are squeezing out between them?

You have 3 variations of the North - are you going to use one with with 3 different kinds? Or just pick one and have than for all 3 North and compare the results between the 3 kinds?

Your coil winding, the middle one, that is actually how I wound my original trifilars because I thought the recovery winding had to be wound in the opposite direction. I thought I was going to siphon off the back emf into a cap in addition to capturing the inductive spike. I thought that because the old SG drawings show the dot at the bottom of the coil, which I thought it was supposed to mean the recovery winding was in the opposite direction. I asked John and he only said it represented a different phase.

Are you planning on putting those 2 windings in opposite direction in parallel?

Back when he was at the "palace" building, he drew me a diagram in the sand outside the building when were were talking explaining the experiments he did with taking a single winding and winding it in one direction, then he would switch and wind it in other direction, then reversed again and so on. He didn't get into the results or what he was trying to find, just that it was an experiment he did.

Your 3rd winding diagram will not necessarily be like the bifilar pancake coil winding, it will just put those two windings in series. We did that something like 8 times on the generator coil that we had on the machine that Peter demonstrated a few years back at the conference.

Like I mentioned before, there is a way to strengthen the S fields that are already there to make it run faster and with less draw. I might post it here - not sure yet.

Hi Aaron,
My best guess on the structure of the Magnetic Field for the SG/SSG/G-Field is based on the Sweet Floyed's criterion of 'conditioning' the magnet.
The Essence is in making the Bloch wall flip its position with the Poles....now what does that imply?...you have suddenly made the virtual become real..isn't it??
the Electrical gas surrounding the coil is now Dielectrically interacting with the Electrical Circuit of the coil---Battery and this is the Radiant gain that lowers the Batteries impedance..so we are dealing with the un-intercepted component (Heaviside) of the Field of solenoid(coil) that is normally wasted/and not coupled.
next... how do you get the Bloch wall do this???
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Here it is :

https://web.archive.org/web/20150403073355/http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/JohnBedini/SG/Feb2005/index.html

message 970, the second below the pictures.

Regards
Lman

Bingo!!! shall post some other collection i have later...

Bingo!!! shall post some other collection i have later...
@ all , please read these comments of John as many times as you can untill you get to know how the Impedance is lowered in the Battery(Inside)..and here is another clue for the group...look for the similarities of Inversion between a Magnet and a Battery!!
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Lman]

Here it is :

https://web.archive.org/web/20150403073355/http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/JohnBedini/SG/Feb2005/index.html

message 970, the second below the pictures.

Regards
Lman

[Faraday88]

I'm really not sure. Where is the full context of where John discussed this?

Hi Aaron,
it was in peswiki Sterling D Allen's( PES) news letters where he discusses the 12 pole monopole and the 10 coiler.. (Peter and John's Medium and large motor)
The page format in PES has changed over the years and some of them have disappeared too!..i tried to look for it ..but hard luck,
However, i have had some of John's 'vital' comments down loaded (printout) to have them documented for my research notes the very first time i read them. John had a very inherent skill in writing what he wanted to convey even if he wanted to have it in a coded sense, i enjoyed to decode them.
I shall post it here at a later time..(this is where Paper storage is indispensable as opposed to Soft copy storage).
Best Regards,
Faraday88.

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Aaron,
Years ago i remember JB stated/commented somewhere about the monopole motors: ''the coils arrangement is something that i cannot talk about...Magnets are made by me i cannot go into that either.. but yes it is standard materials (ceramic #8)''
There is thread where I candidly ask JB about the link between his SSG and the Floyed sweet VTA. and this was my response have read himself co-relating them for that 'useable bias current'.
JB declined in response writing his reply in RED
about any co-relation between the two.
I also remember him saying:'Faraday saw only one thing and made it a law'
(I think I have some of his comments..which are golden now!.. i shall post for all to refer to and draw their own understanding ).
The Floyed sweet method of 'conditioning 'the magnet is again Intrinsic way of Magnetizing the specimen sample..but in that case there is Quantum motion and no real spatial Displacement of magnets or the pick up coils.
John himself was ousted by Sweet after he pointed out the bias current significant now in the modern SSG.
more i shall share as i explore into the various ways of getting the true Monopole.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

I'm really not sure. Where is the full context of where John discussed this?

[Faraday88]

Patrick, what do you do to see the spike before the current on the scope?

There are no instrument that can sense that i guess..
instruments that measure by intercepting the Potential and resulting as 'waste'
is Power. now that is measurable.. to measure a Radiant we may have lack of it and then sense it by normal engineering instrumentation..
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Even Einstein's original model, before he went to the dark side, was that of an elastic aether.

Space can be stretched out, but that is a separate quality from mass displacing it.

Space has one dimension and that is space. It has a coordinate system that can describe a position in that singular dimension of space but coordinates are not dimensions. So there is no such thing as "3D space + time".

This is also a mathematical engineering reality when it comes to electricity and is algebraically indisputable if numbers mean anything to you or anyone else.

Space is not filled with aether, it is aether.

It is possible for space to be stretched so that the density of aether is low - in that case, light travels very fast relative to space with higher density in which case, it travels very slow.

The premise to Einstein's intentional or unintentional psychosis was to wave the Jedi hand so you won't see the droids even though they're sitting right there. It's hard to tell what he actually believed or what appears to be what he was told to push. I'll elaborate later on but don't want to get far off topic from this thread.

Space can be "compressed" or at least densified - contrary to the belief that aether is in-compressible - that is a misunderstanding because of the belief that aether will permeate all mass and therefore you cannot squeeze down on something if it slips through your fingers.

All of this is certainly different than the "pertubations" of the aether.

To look at space being compressed or thinned, the example that most people here would be familiar with is the inductive spike - so what is time? It can be logically deduced without fantastical ideas simply looking at it for what it is instead of what it has been turned in to by mainstream brainwashing.

Everything has to at least start with ideas so good on you.

My ideas are an amalgam of Bearden, Bedini, Dollard, JJ Tompson, Faraday, etc... and a bit of my own in the attempt to tie them together into a unified model and I've been working on that for about 18 years and its very simple. So far, it's predicted everything from gravitational attraction to the Bifeld Brown effect to real work you get from an inductive spike, etc...

How does this all tie into Bedini's magnetic model? Parts of it do, but he took his model only so far. Bearden tried to put an academic understanding to Bedini's work. When I first started to study Bearden's work, John actually warned me not to get caught up in it and not to go that route. He was straight up about that right in the beginning. That seems contrary to the Bedini/Bearden work, but its true - he told me exactly that. Any model as rigorous as Bearden's model is self limiting to the imagination. It doesn't necessarily mean that Bearden is wrong either, but models can be traps and that is what I think is the point to John's comments.

John actually thought my model of time made more sense than his own, which he didn't really elaborate on his time model very much, but he said that when I shared my viewpoints on the matter based on simply observing the basics in front of my face. But he did comment that what I shared with him was along the lines of what Bearden said, but I can't find a close enough analogy to what Bearden said in regards to time to see that close of a comparison. I actually think it is quite a bit off from what Bearden has said.

Hi Aaron,
This is where Synchronicity comes to play its role....i'm sure you will agree.
Rgds,
Faraday88

[Faraday88]

Haven't see those vids since they came out, but any dipole that polarizes the aether and has a conduction so that the positive potential turns into EMF can move to the lower potential and get dissipated to a degree on the way is happening in every circuit all the time.

The virtual poles always seemed very real to me - just stronger per area (more focused).

Later, I'll show something I came up with years ago to enhance the Q1, Q2 (scalar poles) to make the rotor turn even faster with less input. Actually part of an addendum to go with the SG trilogy - don't want to get into that right here at this point.

Isn't that structure intrinsic in any rotor for the SG if all like poles are facing out?

What voltage before being loaded? Input or output battery?

Hi Aaron,
Years ago i remember JB stated/commented somewhere about the monopole motors: ''the coils arrangement is something that i cannot talk about...Magnets are made by me i cannot go into that either.. but yes it is standard materials (ceramic #8)''
There is thread where I candidly ask JB about the link between his SSG and the Floyed sweet VTA. and this was my response have read himself co-relating them for that 'useable bias current'.
JB declined in response writing his reply in RED
about any co-relation between the two.
I also remember him saying:'Faraday saw only one thing and made it a law'
(I think I have some of his comments..which are golden now!.. i shall post for all to refer to and draw their own understanding ).
The Floyed sweet method of 'conditioning 'the magnet is again Intrinsic way of Magnetizing the specimen sample..but in that case there is Quantum motion and no real spatial Displacement of magnets or the pick up coils.
John himself was ousted by Sweet after he pointed out the bias current significant now in the modern SSG.
more i shall share as i explore into the various ways of getting the true Monopole.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

when you see John draw his monopole wheel, he often draws the lines of force interacting with each other (dave has uploaded one of them above) now imagine those lines of force traveling between the poles of the earth and the sun.

The universe is electric.

the gas model of the sun is wrong in so many ways, the surface of the sun is calcium ferrite and iron composite.

https://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com

there is a movie called thunderbolts of the gods, and another one called the electric universe, both do a good job of explaining the electric model

NASA has found magnetic ribbons connecting the sun and the earth

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes

it connects the entire universe

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-s-ibex-observations-pin-down-interstellar-magnetic-field

and another

http://www.space.com/24692-mysterious-energy-ribbon-solar-system.html

everything in the universe is electromagnetic, it all operates at frequency....

The masons understood this, so did leedskalnin.

Tom C

Hi Tom C,

All the forces of Interactions in Physics can be deduced to Electromagnetic Interactions (of course including the Gravity) it would be simpler that way..i wonder why did history take a wrong course and complicate it....it could be just that they did not not understand it to be so....
Rgds,
Faraday88.