Big-Bang falacies and the Occult Aetheric Physics reality.

[dragonborn]

What is the difference between diffraction and interference

Diffraction is the bending of waves around an obstacle, while interference is the meeting of two waves.

Again, within the model you proclaim:
Does the bending of waves around an obstacle (i.e. diffraction) occur in the two slits case? Yes or no?

Could you please just answer this question? It is a simple question and if you have understanding you also can produce an answer.

[gravitational_aether]

gravitational_aether,

Diffraction can occur from a single edge, i.e. not a slit. In that case there is no interference at all. So how is diffraction not different from interference?

Are you now claiming that diffraction behind a sharp edge is interference???

What is the difference between diffraction and interference

Diffraction is the bending of waves around an obstacle, while interference is the meeting of two waves. For instance, diffraction is what results from a pinhole blocking a wave source, the wave spreads out from that one point. This effect is what creates shadows, regions where the light source is blocked but it is not completely dark. Interference, however, results from two waves colliding with one another undergoing constructive and destructive interference, as in two chords being played. I think the confusion concerning these two different phenomena is the fact that two pinholes, two diffraction sources, results in interference of two sources, which is what the diffraction grating is, which creates the characteristic bands of light and dark interference patterns.

Now, back to understanding what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment.

'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
BBC News - Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment

'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new systems ought to behave."'

New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle: Scientific American

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
Einstein: "Ether and Relativity"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the ether at every place determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether.

A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits both slits. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference it encounters. Detecting the particle causes there to be a loss of coherence of the associated aether wave, there is no wave interference, and the direction the particle travels is not altered.

What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.

[dragonborn]

gravitational_aether,

Diffraction can occur from a single edge, i.e. not a slit. In that case there is no interference at all. So how is diffraction not different from interference?

Are you now claiming that diffraction behind a sharp edge is interference???

[gravitational_aether]

gravitational_aether,

You did not answer the simple question I presented to you. If you can not produce an answer I am forced to conclude that you do not really understand what you are talking about and are just quote mining as you go.

So again:
1. you made the claim that diffraction occurs when particles enter into a single slit
2. do you claim that diffraction does not occur when particles enter one of two slits?

I answered the question. You did not understand the answer. Richard Feynman said there is no difference between diffraction and interference.

Do you understand what it means for there to be no difference between diffraction and interference?

If you do not then I am forced to conclude you are unable to answer your own question.

Diffraction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Richard Feynman said that

"no-one has ever been able to define the difference between interference and diffraction satisfactorily. It is just a question of usage, and there is no specific, important physical difference between them.""

Now, back to understanding what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment.

'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
BBC News - Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment

'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new systems ought to behave."'

New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle: Scientific American

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
Einstein: "Ether and Relativity"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the ether at every place determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether.

A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits both slits. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference it encounters. Detecting the particle causes there to be a loss of coherence of the associated aether wave, there is no wave interference, and the direction the particle travels is not altered.

What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.

[dragonborn]

gravitational_aether,

You did not answer the simple question I presented to you. If you can not produce an answer I am forced to conclude that you do not really understand what you are talking about and are just quote mining as you go.

So again:
1. you made the claim that diffraction occurs when particles enter into a single slit
2. do you claim that diffraction does not occur when particles enter one of two slits?

[gravitational_aether]

If you say so.

Does diffraction occur in the two slit case? yes or no? This is a simple question.

Diffraction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Richard Feynman said that

"no-one has ever been able to define the difference between interference and diffraction satisfactorily. It is just a question of usage, and there is no specific, important physical difference between them.""

Now, back to understanding what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment.

'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
BBC News - Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment

'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new systems ought to behave."'

New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle: Scientific American

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
Einstein: "Ether and Relativity"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the ether at every place determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether.

A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits both slits. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference it encounters. Detecting the particle causes there to be a loss of coherence of the associated aether wave, there is no wave interference, and the direction the particle travels is not altered.

What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.

[dragonborn]

I am saying in a double slit experiment when the waves exit the slits they create wave interference which alters the direction the particle travels. I am saying this is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. I am saying what waves in pilot-wave theory is the aether.

If you say so.

Does diffraction occur in the two slit case? yes or no? This is a simple question.

[gravitational_aether]

I am familiar with the wave-particle model. I also know it to be false.

Let me put it this way:
do you claim that diffraction does not occur with two slits but only one?

I am saying in a double slit experiment when the waves exit the slits they create wave interference which alters the direction the particle travels. I am saying this is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. I am saying what waves in pilot-wave theory is the aether.

[dragonborn]

Not really. You can google this yourself. Diffraction is the pattern created by a single wave exiting a single slit. Interference is the pattern created by two waves exiting two slits. Now, you can go back to before the wave in the aether passes through both slits and consider it a single wave exiting both slits but I think that is stretching things.

The point is, the wave exiting the slit pilots the particle, whether the wave is exiting a single slit or there are two waves exiting two slits and the particle exiting a single slit.

I am familiar with the wave-particle model. I also know it to be false.

Let me put it this way:
do you claim that diffraction does not occur with two slits but only one?

[gravitational_aether]

So in essence diffraction should then also be the cause for the interference (pattern) in the two slit experiment as well. Yes?

Not really. You can google this yourself. Diffraction is the pattern created by a single wave exiting a single slit. Interference is the pattern created by two waves exiting two slits. Now, you can go back to before the wave in the aether passes through both slits and consider it a single wave exiting both slits but I think that is stretching things.

The point is, the wave exiting the slit pilots the particle, whether the wave is exiting a single slit or there are two waves exiting two slits and the particle exiting a single slit.

[dragonborn]

Single-slit diffraction with water waves.

Single-Slit Diffraction

So in essence diffraction should then also be the cause for the interference (pattern) in the two slit experiment as well. Yes?

[gravitational_aether]

That's a bad analogy. You can attach the sensors to the slits so that they only make the path inside the slits slightly longer. Thus you have sensors that do not interfere with the mechanics of the slits.

You can't strongly detect the particle and not destroy the coherence of the associated wave.

BBC News - Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment

'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new systems ought to behave."'

New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle: Scientific American

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

What waves in pilot-wave theory is the aether.

Well take a look at your previous boat example. There is no interference generated through a single slit. When you use water you get interference only with two slits. Not one.

So what is this single slit interference and what causes it in this aether-model?

Single-slit diffraction with water waves.

Single-Slit Diffraction

[dragonborn]

In a boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and the bow wave passes through both. As the bow wave exits the slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the boat travels. If there are pillings at the exits to the slits with sensors to detect the boat the pilings are going to turn the bow wave exiting both slits into chop, as in choppy water. The boat exiting a single slit is going to get knocked around by the chop and it is going to remain on the same general path it is traveling.

That's a bad analogy. You can attach the sensors to the slits so that they only make the path inside the slits slightly longer. Thus you have sensors that do not interfere with the mechanics of the slits.

In a single slit experiment both the particle and the wave in the aether exit a single slit. The wave creates single slit interference as it exits the slit which alters the direction the particle travels.

Well take a look at your previous boat example. There is no interference generated through a single slit. When you use water you get interference only with two slits. Not one.

So what is this single slit interference and what causes it in this aether-model?

[gravitational_aether]

gravitational_aether,

That is quite ambiguous... What exactly do you mean by "chop"?

In a boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and the bow wave passes through both. As the bow wave exits the slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the boat travels. If there are pillings at the exits to the slits with sensors to detect the boat the pilings are going to turn the bow wave exiting both slits into chop, as in choppy water. The boat exiting a single slit is going to get knocked around by the chop and it is going to remain on the same general path it is traveling.

A laser beam when aimed at a single slit produces an interference pattern behind the slit. How do you explain that if you say that there is no interference causation in a single slit case?

In a single slit experiment both the particle and the wave in the aether exit a single slit. The wave creates single slit interference as it exits the slit which alters the direction the particle travels.

[dragonborn]

gravitational_aether,

That is quite ambiguous... What exactly do you mean by "chop"?

A laser beam when aimed at a single slit produces an interference pattern behind the slit. How do you explain that if you say that there is no interference causation in a single slit case?