Colloidal Silver from ssg

[aln]

I have been pondering making some colloidal silver from the output of the ssg, high voltage, low current and have read, "A Closer Look At Colloidal Silver:" By Peter A. Lindemann. Is this the same Peter? I know it is mentioned that 30 volts is optimum and I am aware that for making the sought after yellw solution, you would go 20-25 minutes with no electrolyte, straight dc, but curious if anyone else has already gone down this road. Al

[dennis foyil]

Hello aln, I have been making silver for@ five months. There is lots'o info in the Bob Beck thread. What worked for me was to go the hot water route mentioned by Dr. L. Also I use 4 - nine volt batts. That gives@36.7v , the led takes 1.5v. 170-180 degree hot water drops the voltage another 2.0v. now there is 33.2 v at the electrodes and only a tiny bit of seeding is need to drop the other .2v to be in range. In 15 to20 min. with minimal agitation the voltage has dropped to 27v and I stop the process. product is perfectly clear. I use left over solution for seeding. four batts gives much longer operating window than three. Spots are disappearing, moles are going away,wife's eczema nearly a thing of the past. the real fun part is recharging. I use a "tube" type oscillator, trifilar#30 with @40' and one 3055. a 5.3v wall wart works great as a primary for two to four in parallel at a time. this process takes only 5 to 15 ma. continuous current, not pulsed. Thanks to V-tech for his encouragement and inspiration in this area. we drink @5 oz. ea. every two or three days. also used as a facial astringent, soak toothbrushes etc. df

[aln]

There sure is a lot of info out there, I receive a colloidal generator from a friend and was using the 27v 3-9v battery method described in the Metcalf book with saline. Working on getting rid of Lymes. Many deer tick with lymes where I live. I have a friend with a rife that is treating herself. I have learned that the saline method is not ideal and may even be harmful with the silver bonding to chlorides or nitrates that may be in the sea salt. So that is why I started this thread. Curios if anyone was using ssg for this as well, or maybe it is not suited for a colloidal generator. I will research the Bob Beck Thread. Thank you. Aln

[blackchisel97]

@Aln,

Heating water to speed up the process is fine but I don't recommend adding anything to water. Also, current limiter such as constant current circuit is very important to keep particles small throughout entire process. Water will gradually become more conductive due to the presence of more silver. I have heard of people using HV but this is something I didn't experiment yet. We use CS almost every day for many things, including adding to milk, preserves etc. Works great.
SSG works with low impedance load - battery and we're talking less than an Ohm. Water being rather poor conductor (distilled) will cause high voltage build up on the output and damage to the transistors, if not protected properly.
Perhaps trifilar with bridge and HV capacitor on the output would fit the bill but I haven't try this idea to comment further.

Regards
V

[aln]

Hey V,
Thanks for commenting. Current limiter, a bulb? I made through maybe 20 of the 40+ pages of the Bob Beck thread and have visited your site, great info. Would a grain of wheat bulb suffice? I get what your saying about no place for voltage to go from ssg into water without conductor. Would ther possibly be a benefit, or is the good old way good enough? I suppose you would have to determine particle size from both ways in order to find out if one way is better. High voltage low uf cap? Would fill up fast and have same problem, no? I go through transistors I learn things the hard way. Aln

[blackchisel97]

Hey V,
Thanks for commenting. Current limiter, a bulb? I made through maybe 20 of the 40+ pages of the Bob Beck thread and have visited your site, great info. Would a grain of wheat bulb suffice? I get what your saying about no place for voltage to go from ssg into water without conductor. Would there possibly be a benefit, or is the good old way good enough? I suppose you would have to determine particle size from both ways in order to find out if one way is better. High voltage low uf cap? Would fill up fast and have same problem, no? I go through transistors I learn things the hard way. Aln

Hi Aln,

Bob Beck used small bulb as a limiting valve but you can make one using two transistors and two resistors. I posted circuit in B.B thread here and on my site. At 30VDC 1.2kOhm will allow up to 450uA, regardless of load (water) impedance. I didn't try high voltage method yet so it is just a theoretical speculation.
As for SSG or even solid state version, I use clamping diodes rated at 186V across C-E of each transistor. They'll clamp down anything above and protect transistors. I would use HV and decent size cap, such as 2200uF/450V or bigger. You'll still need to control current flow. Personally, I wouldn't bother complicating.
Salvaged PC printer adapter with constant current circuit added will do the job well and cost very little.
I have made couple and gave to people looking to make CS. Another way is to make simple voltage tripler or quad multiplier add c.c circuit and use small solar panel. I made one unit having flexible solar sheet on the cover of camera bag. Bag fits BE/CS and BT devices but can operate without batteries and "off grid".
Great travel medicine kit.

Thanks
V

[Dave Wing]

Don't know if this applies to colloid production but I thought I would share it anyway.

I was using standard SSSG circuit with 8 feet of wire 24 awg power wire and same length trigger wire, it was 26 awg. I was running it up to 97,000 hz wound as a small inductor at around 1.3 amps @12 volts, using a MJL21194.

I was using this small coil to heat a R-45 copper coated welding rod, in less than 20 seconds to a dark, blue brown color. This hysteresis proved to be a very good heating element... To heat liquids like water. I also noticed the transitor was producing a nice amount of heat as well... So I decided to immerse the MJL transitor and inductor in the water while operating the SSSG circuit at 97,000hz. I was going to use a calorie meter to see how much heat was produced in this case vs input for the circuit while still charging the secondary battery. The heat is free like the mechanical to the SG rotor.

Any way the point to mentioning this experiment was that I noticed the metal backside of the water immersed MJL21194 transistor was becoming very pitted and was losing material over time into the water. I thought perhaps that one may want to secure a piece of silver to the transitor and see if it will make a silver colloid, with only the silver immersed and not the transistor metal backing. Don't know if this will work... Has anyone tired something similar to this? If so I would love to hear what you have found out.

Dave Wing

[Tom C]

BC,

you had a CS generator posted somewhere is it over on EF ?

Tom C

[dennis foyil]

Hello folks, there a couple in the Bob B. thread, posts 353 and 369. df

[aln]

Hello folks, there a couple in the Bob B. thread, posts 353 and 369. df

Thank you dennis, I finally made it through the rest of the Bob Beck thread and then talked to my friend today that gave me the generator that I guess he ordered in the early 90's which was marketed as a "plant stimulator" to avoid health regs. It was a kit that he assembled with the BE/CSG combo. I burned out the grain of wheat bulb somehow and thanks to Vtech I will put in his constant current circuit with 2n2222's as I have them on hand. More fun with the solder gun

I'll no longer pursue the use of the ssg for generating cs. Al

[Mike Swanson]

Current limiting circuit for colloidal silver generator by Herx13.

https://colloidalsilver.com.au/NewFi...LIMIT_BIG.jpeg

edit: Here is a site that says that bubbling the water is important but constant current is not (constant voltage is) w/ lab results:

https://www.colloidalsilverhowto.com/faqs-production