The SG Radiant Oscillator

[LesK]

John K, Howard, or anyone really....Especially John B if you have the time.

I got it from the video and one of JB's posts here earlier. I cannot find the post now.
Funny, as it was one of those things that made really good sense to me. I know that we never talk much about the interaction of the trigger strand to the coil.
In my mind this clicked because of the two control lines on the Ferris Wheel.
if we can break at the quarter wave (As I would suppose everyone knows, That is where the power is) then we have something new.
So if the control lines on the Ferris wheel and the trigger wire on the SSG affect this at the quarter wave then we are hitting at the power.
Why extend the core 1/4?
Much Clarification on this would be appreciated.

Yes, Good batteries on the back end but the input is not so good, that's why I have been doing short runs. Also When I hook this to my power supply it goes whakkki.....

John K, I have looked at what you are doing over there, Great work as usual. Probably renders this thread done.....

Les

[Howard Wetsman]

Les and John K,
I assume Les's question about trigger wire comes from John's video. It appears there are two litzed trigger wires as well as two litzed power wires. It is not clear to me if the trigger wires are split or they are attached to together to one end of both base resistors. I'm not even sure I can see two base resistors, but I'm assuming they are there. So if there's only one trigger, I'd wonder why it's made of two wires, and I've been assuming it has something to do with impedance which is not something I've been able to understand yet.
h

[John_Koorn]

I just hope we all understand that one does not count for the many that support. thank you for this site to help us get things right. I can see from out here in the woods that John k. and Tom C. have obviously been a great help among others.
So in the spirit of moving forward, I am grateful for the information on the SS Tube and for getting to make a replication. Although I have never liked any of the SS stuff before and had very bad experiences with it.

I see that the coil has an amount of energy to transfer and that it can divide this energy to multiple batteries based on differences of impedance. In my testing so far the gap between two similar batteries at different states of potential is closing the gap fast. I see this as one very practical device.The practical application of this becomes quickly obvious.

I don't understand Lameller currents very well, but here is how I see what is going on. The coil has a fixed energy potential. That energy follows the path of least resistance as it exits the coil. So as a battery builds up an impedance the less impedance takes more of the energy. For example if I had 12 watts in the coil and two balanced batteries then 6 watts would go to each battery. But if the impedance is mismatched then say 4 watts to one battery and 8 to the other.
Outback inverters came out with a balanced inverter system about 10 years ago. It was designed so that if you had two 2000watt inverters you could put one inverter on one leg, and the other inverter on the other. This was a common practice and Trace and others had a wire you would attach between them to keep in phase. But what was unique about the outback is that the inverters would put and could put all 4000 potential watts on one leg based on the demand. Not an easy thing to do. I see this as very similar.

The thing that is so mind blowing about this SS unit and being able to do this with the SSG is that is it's done with apparent simplicity. My complements, adulations, and general thanks!

So I have two questions I would like to have confirmed so I can move forward.
1- I understood that with this method you would need a trigger strand for each power strand, is that true for the SS and the rotored SSG?
2- Does the SS version have the same qualities as the SSG in that you cannot swap batteries?

Clarification on these two points would be extremely beneficial.

Les

Les, #1 you don't need a trigger strand for each power strand for either SS or rotored version. Not sure if you've seen the videos of the rotored version I am testing. http://www.energyscienceforum.com/be...eel-ssg-3.html

All you need to do is run the output diode to a separate battery instead of summing them all together.

#2 I don't know the answer. I presume so, but will let John B confirm.

In the tests you are running are you using good batteries? It's interesting to see that the voltages go up and down as the impedance in the battery changes.

John K.

[LesK]

Two runs today...
Time Batt-a Batt-b diff
10:00 12.92 13.42 0.50
10:30 12.04 13.43 0.49
11:05 13.08 13.48 0.40

3:50 12.98 13.45 0.47
7:55 13.27 13.69 0.42
8:45 13.35 13.76 0.41
10:55 13.55 13.91 0.36

Hope this is helpful
Les

[LesK]

I just hope we all understand that one does not count for the many that support. thank you for this site to help us get things right. I can see from out here in the woods that John k. and Tom C. have obviously been a great help among others.
So in the spirit of moving forward, I am grateful for the information on the SS Tube and for getting to make a replication. Although I have never liked any of the SS stuff before and had very bad experiences with it.

I see that the coil has an amount of energy to transfer and that it can divide this energy to multiple batteries based on differences of impedance. In my testing so far the gap between two similar batteries at different states of potential is closing the gap fast. I see this as one very practical device.The practical application of this becomes quickly obvious.

I don't understand Lameller currents very well, but here is how I see what is going on. The coil has a fixed energy potential. That energy follows the path of least resistance as it exits the coil. So as a battery builds up an impedance the less impedance takes more of the energy. For example if I had 12 watts in the coil and two balanced batteries then 6 watts would go to each battery. But if the impedance is mismatched then say 4 watts to one battery and 8 to the other.
Outback inverters came out with a balanced inverter system about 10 years ago. It was designed so that if you had two 2000watt inverters you could put one inverter on one leg, and the other inverter on the other. This was a common practice and Trace and others had a wire you would attach between them to keep in phase. But what was unique about the outback is that the inverters would put and could put all 4000 potential watts on one leg based on the demand. Not an easy thing to do. I see this as very similar.

The thing that is so mind blowing about this SS unit and being able to do this with the SSG is that is it's done with apparent simplicity. My complements, adulations, and general thanks!

So I have two questions I would like to have confirmed so I can move forward.
1- I understood that with this method you would need a trigger strand for each power strand, is that true for the SS and the rotored SSG?
2- Does the SS version have the same qualities as the SSG in that you cannot swap batteries?

Clarification on these two points would be extremely beneficial.

Les

[Wei]

Appreciate your effort to keep this going forward. Thank you.

[John_Bedini]

Marcia,
Yes I know, but I spent so much time trying to teach this guy. I just failed and I dought I will ever waste that much time again. But I wanted to do something for the original groups as I know he was going to take them down like he did before. The monopole groups, at least have a chance now to get things to work, so that is the reason for this new board.
Hope everybody uses it. Hope things are going well for you.

John,

My heart goes out to you. I, too, have experienced betrayal by a once-trusted associate.

Marcia

[Marcia Stockton]

...But this is the history of what happened. Here, This is the history of the SG Radiant Oscillator and how things get stolen even when you have people you trust to be helping you ...

John,

My heart goes out to you. I, too, have experienced betrayal by a once-trusted associate.

Marcia

[Howard Wetsman]

Howard,
Please go to the SG section where John K has uploaded the videos and watch them He explains what he has done. The SG oscillator is just a solid state version and you should not be confused about the branches of the machine I have talked about this over and over. The machine is built for the size of the batteries you want to charge.

So John,
I think I had a mistaken idea, that the point of the BM2, BM3,etc and the forum was to build the simple SG bike wheel, prove to myself that I can get OU and then build bigger with a mutli coil machine. I'm seeing that there are more than one way to scale up. It strikes me, as a relative ignorant outsider, that the multicoil machines might be better for a single large capacity battery bank but even then the constituent batteries would have to be matched, but what you're showing us is that there's little need for that and it's harder. It would be easier to charge multiple smaller batteries from a single source.

I know that I "should not be confused about the branches" because you've talked about this over and over, but please don't forget I'm still struggling to understand the language. This happens to me at work all the time. I'll realize one of the counselors (or several) didn't understand something I've said 50 times, and when I ask why, it turns out that they have a different meaning for the same words. They thought they understood. And I thought they understood. But there were implications that just didn't get through.

I'm just realizing that the last three weeks of work on the solid state build was wasted and I have to start over. I was building to go bigger, to charge a 420AH 12 volt battery bank, but I need to split it up now. The impedance still has me stumped though. Are we trying to match the resistance of the coil with the impedance of the battery?
thanks for your patience. I understand it can be quite frustrating when you think people aren't listening.
h

[John_Koorn]

Ok, let me try it:
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Cheers!

T-1000, it worked

John K.

[TheGooch]

Hi Arunas,

It seems to me that people with "Junior Member" status cannot post messages with links in them. We get that exact message you showed. I believe the heavy duty spam filter is set up this way. From what I can see, people with "Member" status or higher are allowed to post messages with links.

-Mike

Nope, it does not work.
"Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting."

Cheers,
Arunas

[kevin]

Thank You John

[John_Bedini]

super pole energizer

Kevin,
Go here http://www.energyscienceforum.com/be...eel-ssg-2.html

John I guess I am old and blind I can not find the SG section where John K has uploaded the videos can you
please lead this old horse to it please??? Thank You
Kevin

[kevin]

John I guess I am old and blind I can not find the SG section where John K has uploaded the videos can you
please lead this old horse to it please??? Thank You
Kevin

[John_Bedini]

Howard,
Please go to the SG section where John K has uploaded the videos and watch them He explains what he has done. The SG oscillator is just a solid state version and you should not be confused about the branches of the machine I have talked about this over and over. The machine is built for the size of the batteries you want to charge.