Tuning Assistance

[BobZilla]

Barrie we all appreciate your explanations of your method, thanks for spelling it out for us.

As I said I am not trying to contradict you at all. In fact you could throw an led on the rig while also making your calculations. I think what max is looking to see is when the machine slips from a few spikes per pass to one. You have been doing this long enough to know how the amps draw will "shift" down as the RPM increases and you go from three to two per pass , then one. The LED just gives a visual.

Max do you notices any "Shifting" on your machine as it spins up? You can hear it and observe it on the amp draw without the LEDs. As I said starting out this used to be much more noticable when running repulsion rather than attraction but you can notice in either.

*EDIT*
One other thought as I was reading the post. About the potentiometer, I have found that the wire wound variety work very well. I look for a 7 or 10 turn wire wound of 2 watt or so. They are not cheap but well worth the money. You get extremely precise adjustments and they hold up pretty well. You can burn them out if you push to much through them but on your setup I doubt it would happen. I have one on my 32 transistor 8 coiler with no issues.

[maxgoenergy]

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However I have also an older one with a taller turn knob.
They do have 2W varieties: http://primeretail.cloudaccess.net/?product=VR5341K

[Yaro1776]

Continuation of Data on Charge Battery performance

Greetings Max,

Impressed with the thoughtfulness and completeness of your response. One can see that you are serious about your SSG effort. I will answer a number of your queries to the best of my limited experience.

Firstly, as background, I do have many years of experience in the testing field - not that this matters in the SSG world. Different animal! However, there are accepted methods for testing theories and hardware. In this instance (SSG) I do not subscribe to the easy 15 minute data method, in that this only gives you a short data look. The SSG characteristics are not a constant - the data reads change with the charge on the battery over time. I prefer running the charge tests from low voltage (12.1v) up to full charge of ~15.3v or so dependent on the charging rate of the machine configuration - this may take up to 8 or 9 hours dependent on battery size (normally use garden tractor LABs of 12 to 20 Ah for simplicity and cost).

Your request for data has been noted and attached below is a sample data sheet from February2014 as an example.New Wheel Variable Gap Test 1 Board 1.pdf
The data set parameters are straightforward and the results should be self explanatory. I have hundreds of hours of SSG operating notes and observations - priceless knowledge and experience. Not all of us have this time, for sure.

Your goals for battery charging are admirable, however one does need to progress well beyond Mode 1 Operation. Over the past while many experimenters, including myself, have become frustrated by not being able to exceed 0.65 COP for the primary and charge battery output/input. Others claim much better results in specialized circumstances. That should not be a concern... The plain Jane SSG machine has many lessons to teach you if you are willing to observe and experiment. Many want to conquer the world of free energy with a 15 minute test, but few are willing to spend the 6-8 hours charging a battery and then discharging it while observing the process. Then repeating the process multiple times. Their choice!

It is interesting to note that the scientists and experimenters from a 100 odd years ago and more did not have the sophisticated electronics and instruments that are commonly available now - so how did they do it? How did they discover the many laws and effects? This may be an essential question.

The more practical issue - the LED test. BobZ is way better at explaining this, but I will give it a shot. First, I use a reflective tape on the base of the spoke. Ace Hardware or equivalent - the roll will last you for 20 years. I use a bright/super bright narrow beam Blue LED with resistor and hold it about 2-3" or so from the wheel rim/spoke with the lights off. LED is connected to one Trans and (-) terminal of primary ( I think that's right) and dim the lights. You have to move the LED around a bit to get the right distance and angle at the base of the wheel. One does have to experiment with this to get the feel. Similar to a first date, if you will. Sounds juvenile, but once you see how it works you do become convinced.

Once you get the feel of this method you can physically see how the machine shifts from one to two spikes - seeing is believing and just looking at data is one sided.

I believe that Branch Gordon in one of his threads presented a graph of SSG performance over a wide range of resistance values - very informative description of SSG behavior. Should be on Beginners 1 page.

If one experiments at the smaller gaps (less than 0.250") and nominal resistances you will see a point where the SSG does not speed up beyond a certain RPM under 200 - you say "what is wrong with the machine?" Nada. Interesting zone to play in and very informative, perhaps more about the double spike zone later. Thanks to the simple LED for realizing that this exists.

Too many questions to address here and many are inter-related. I do know that having witnessed several repeatable individual tests that are off the credibility scale, only to have the results not be repeatable several days later, have me hooked on this simple/complex toy.

All the above may not be very helpful, but it keeps things interesting - keep plugging! see how time permits addressing more questions.

Best to you,
Yaro

[BobZilla]

Max,
I have been posting experiments for nearly 4 years now in this forum and have gone over in great detail most of my setups along with video and charts. Please take advantage of the knowledge that has been shared by reading through some or watching a few video's. The timing light is standard fair in just about every one of them. If you go farther back you will see some of my more crude builds which was also when I was learning about many of the things you are curious about now. Of course the farther back you go the less I understood at the time of writing but I have built and showed just about every variation of this machine and mode of operation for others to share in the experience. My current thread is in the intermediate section, full of videos.