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Hi Kiril thanks for your help but that's what I've been doing the COP test battery not charging system. For example if the battery load I put 100 joules when I downloaded the battery with a bulb gives me 100 joules (COP battery 0). At first when I started this test had better results but I have gone form making the test more accurate the results are worse. More accurately I mean I let the batteries rest days so that the voltage is stable, accurately timing the time of loading and unloading even buy analog ammeters. Thanks again and if you have any ideas I'm all ears more
Hola Kiril gracias por tu ayuda pero eso es lo que he estado haciendo comprobar el COP de la batería de carga no del sistema. Por ejemplo si a la batería de carga le meto 100 julios cuando descargo la batería con una bombilla me da los 100 julios (COP de la batería 0). Al principio cuando empecé hacer esta prueba tenia mejores resultado pero con forme he ido haciendo la prueba mas precisa los resultados son peores. Con mas precisión me refiero a que dejo las baterías días en reposo para que el voltaje este estable, cronometrar con exactitud el tiempo de carga y de descarga incluso compre amperímetros analógicos. Nuevamente gracias y si tienes alguna idea mas seré todo oídos
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I'm not sure if I understan you correctly, but if you charge with 100 joules, and you consume 100 joules from that battery this means COP 1, not 0.Originally posted by energialibre View Post...if the battery load I put 100 joules when I downloaded the battery with a bulb gives me 100 joules (COP battery 0).
Is that what you ment?
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Kiril
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IF what you say I put 100 joules and 100 joules sack will not give me too much powerOriginally posted by Kiril_Kirilov View PostI'm not sure if I understan you correctly, but if you charge with 100 joules, and you consume 100 joules from that battery this means COP 1, not 0.
Is that what you ment?
Regards,
Kiril
SI es lo que usted dice le meto 100 julios y le saco 100 julios no me da un exceso de energia
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It gives you exactly as much as you've spentOriginally posted by energialibre View Post... I put 100 joules and 100 joules sack will not give me too much power...
Add to this all the mechanical loses and you're over the COP 1
Better follow exactly instructions in the JB Beginners Handbook.
Stabilize your set up, do repeatable runs to see how the SSG works, and only then think about implementation in some off-grid solution
If your measurments are correct, you're on the right way
Keep going 
Regards,
Kiril
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I have understood that the radiant energy gives an excess of energy. The system COP and COP of the battery charging must differentiate. I've been doing the COP of the battery as does John Koorn. Beginner's book I've read a few times to go over it again though. Thank you very much for the help
Yo tengo entendido que la energia radiante da un exceso de energia. Hay que diferenciar el COP del sistema y el COP de la bateria de carga. Yo he estado haciendo el COP de la bateria tal y como hace John Koorn. El libro del principiante lo he leido unas cuantas veces aunque lo volvere a repasar. Muchas gracias por la ayuda
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Originally posted by Kiril_Kirilov View PostIt gives you exactly as much as you've spent
Add to this all the mechanical loses and you're over the COP 1
Better follow exactly instructions in the JB Beginners Handbook.
Stabilize your set up, do repeatable runs to see how the SSG works, and only then think about implementation in some off-grid solution
If your measurments are correct, you're on the right way
Keep going 
Regards,
Kiril
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