Gravitational Potential Energy

[Aaron Murakami]

This thread is for the discussion of Gravitational Potential Energy - one of my favorite topics and just about the easiest to prove that gravity is dynamic and is a contributing force that supplies its potential to do work.

The example is very simple.

If we have a ball of clay that does not bounce at all, it is 0% efficient in bouncing and is 100% efficient in performing impact work.

If the clay ball is 2.5 kg and we lift it to 1 meter on from the surface of the Earth, we can figure the following:

Work or W required to lift this ball to 1 meter is W = Fd, W = Force x distance, W = (mass x gravity) x distance, W = 2.5kg X 9.81 X 1 = 24.525 joules of work. That is 24.525 real units of work, dissipated energy, or real entropy.

The Potential Energy or PE available to that object at 1 meter from Gravitational Potential Energy is PE = mgh, PE = mass x gravity x height, PE = 2.5kg x 9.81 x 1 = 24.525 joules of Potential Energy - not stored in the object since it is myth that we store any potential in an object. What we got out of the work we already expended to lift the ball was the lift of the ball itself - it is all used up and there is nothing left to store even if we wanted to.

When the ball of clay is released from 1 meter and hits the ground with a thud, the object falls with the flow of the downward moving dynamic Gravitational Potential Energy. That potential is not really performing work since the ball is not resisting it. There may be minor insignificant resistances from the air - almost nothing for a ball at 1 meter. When the ball hits the ground, the ball then resists movement and then the Potential Energy available from gravity in the amount predicted by the PE = mgh equation shows us that 24.525 joules of real work, dissipated energy or real entropy were realized in the form of heat, etc...

When we lifted the object, we contributed 24.525 units of entropy. When the object hit the ground an ADDITIONAL 24.525 units of entropy were contributed free from Gravitational Potential Energy. 24.525 + 24.525 = 49.05 joules of total work, dissipated energy or entropy were performed that are mathematically calculable.

If we take 49.05 total work and divide it by what we had to pay for, 24.525, that equals 2 or a COP of 2.0. That is a 200% net gain in real work energy compared to what we put in.

This is an indisputable universal principle that applies to every single open dissipative system.

We know for a fact that the lifting work of 24.525 joules is entropy and the thud on the ground is 24.525 joules that is also real entropy that happened with time moving forward, so there is no negative work being done here. Both are heat producing events that contribute to the entropy of the universe.

Since 49.05 joules is more than we contributed, it is only common sense that the other 24.525 joules of Potential Energy came from external forces proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is a system that is NOT isolated from external forces and 3rd grade elementary school math proves this. Not only does it mean that conventional closed system thermodynamics do not apply to this system, it proves that gravity not only can be but is an absolute source of Potential Energy that can do work.

This COP 2.0 principle is universal in open systems at a MINIMUM! That is if there is one cycle and one cycle only and the system does not regauge itself or create a new dipole through its dissipative processes.

Peter Lindemann has taught this for years in regards to electric motors. For every one unit of work you put in, you are getting a freebie and when you sum them, you get twice as much as what you put in.

Paul Babcock who gave the Magnetic Energy Secrets presentation says the same thing and also proves this with real experiments. He says nature gives you a freebie for each unit you put in meaning there really is twice as much work being done compared to what we put in. And his inductor arc experiment is demonstrating in front of everyone's eyes a COP of 2.0.

When conventional physics claims you "get out what you put in" - that is a psychotic delusion out of touch with reality. It is a brainwashing attempt to prevent people from seeing the truth shown in the 3rd grade math examples above.

They say you put in 1 unit and you get 1 unit out. Ummm, what you get out of it IS THE LIFT OF THE OBJECT IN AND OF ITSELF. They can't discount the fact that what we put in IS entropic work and when the ball is lifted to 1 meter, what we got out of it was the lift. At the peak, 100% of every bit of energy we used up is gone never to be seen again. It was 100% dissipated back to the environment. There is no conservation.

What we did was expend 24.525 joules of real work and this established a dipole of 1 meter. At this point, we ALREADY got out of it what we put in. Anything after this point is IN ADDITION TO what already happened.

When the object is dropped, an ADDITIONAL 24.525 joules of work will occur on impact for a total that is 200% of our input.

Therefore, for every 1 we put in + 1 free from nature = 2. Therefore, 1 + 1 = 2.

Conventional physics says we put in 1 + we get out 1 = 1. Therefore, they literally are calming 1 + 1 = 1. That is why they're delusional.

What we are able to prove with 7 year old children's math is that gravity absolutely is Potential Energy that can do work.

Being that it is a fact, that means that gravity must be active and not some passive or static phenomena. If it was static, it could not contribute anything and if it was static, then every bit of potential that turned into work must have come from us, must be stored in the object when lifted as it would be cut off to any external forces and conventional thermodynamics would apply since it would be an isolated system.

But all that falls apart the moment we mathematically show very simply that twice as much work in measurable joules of entropy have happened and half did not come from us.

[Aaron Murakami]

There are plenty of false counter arguments against this that reveal the psychosis of conventional science.

Psychosis is a loss of contact with reality that usually includes false beliefs about what is taking place or who one is (delusions).

Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it hard to tell the difference between what is real and not real, think clearly, have normal emotional responses. (We have all seen the emotional responses by conventional thinkers in regards to showing them the truth - they have a meltdown as if you're trying to escape from their religious fanatical cult.)

Delusion is defined the act of deluding or the state of being deluded, something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated, a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs

True to the definition, anyone that believes in closed system thermodynamics in regards to any natural system in the universe are exhibiting traits of someone who is psychotic, schizophrenic or delusional. The exact same mental illness is common in the conventional medical field where doctors believe that covering up a symptom is actually curing someone. Anyway, on to a few false arguments to watch out for...

1. There is no net work being done since the ball came back down. Well, that is a subjective use of the word net. The objective facts that are mathematically proven without illogical rhetoric is that the lift is positive work in forward time and is heat event. The impact when it came back down is positive work in forward time and is a heat event. Both the lift and the impact are events that contribute entropy to the universe. Therefore, the work in both events are summed up to show how much work is done and it is 200% compared to what we put in. Using a simultaneous vector analysis for a sequential event is intellectually dishonest.

2. The work depends on how much time it takes. This was claimed by Let's Replicate, a self proclaimed credentialed scientist. His examples took the work done and divided it by the amount of time it takes to show the watts of power and he claimed that is the work done. But the fact is that if we lifted the ball and it takes 24.525 joules of work, it will still take that same amount of energy whether we lift it to a meter over 1 second, 1 nanosecond or 1 entire year. If we divide 24.525 joules of work by 2 seconds, we have 12.2625 watts of power. That is a power reading. If we lift it over 10 seconds, we have 2.4525 watts of power per second for 10 seconds. The energy dissipated or real work done is still the same 24.525 joules. So the amount of work done has nothing to do with how much time it took. That shows that this self proclaimed credentialed scientist has absolutely no idea what the difference is between Work and Power. W = FD and Power = W/t.

We could go on with countless examples of false arguments by those that believe the conventional Laws of Thermodynamics has anything to do with open dissipative systems but this should suffice to make the point. There are no isolated natural systems and there is no conservation of energy. There is only these steps if the system regauges itself like a bouncing ball, pendulum, etc...:

1. Dissipation of energy on the input back to the environment (destruction of energy) > 2. creation of new dipole (regauging) > 3. entering of new potential that can perform work for free (creation of energy out of thin air) > 4. goto step 2 and repeat.

The potential that does work on each cycle is always fresh potential from the environment. NONE of it is the same or transformed energy from previous cycles. Conservation is a myth.

These can only be known when we actually know the difference between what energy and potential is and conventional science has no idea.

Potential is the actual thing and is the aetheric source potential. When there is a dipole that allows the aetheric potential to be used as source potential, it will perform work by interacting with mass and meeting resistances. This resistance is what work is and is what energy is. There is no such THING as energy. Energy is an adjective to describe the dissipation of the potential from a high potential to a low potential. The very act of that dissipation IS what energy is - again, energy isn't a thing, it is an event that the thing (potential) experiences on its way to equilibrium.

Potential = noun
Energy = adjective/verb descriptor or action - however you want to look at it, but not a noun

It can be confusing to see potential as the thing because there is an abstract use of potential as in a possible future occurrence. But when we are discussing Potential Energy and we know that the potential is really polarized aether so that it can be tapped to do work, we are talking about a tangible thing and is the source for every force that can be measured.

We can then see the delusion of Einstein to see that energy is in mass. Tesla is correct that the only energy mass has is what it gets from the environment and we can see that it is absolutely the case in the above examples.

We lift an object and let go, the energy that happens when the clay ball hits the ground did not come from us with the mythical notion of "storing potential" in it or the mass itself, but externally from Gravitational Potential Energy that imparted a push on the mass and when the mass resists further movement during impact, that resistance is the aetheric potential dissipating through that friction and it dissipates back into the environment (destruction of the energy process) - no conservation.

Energy isn't changing forms from one form to another. It is only dissipated back to the exact form of potential energy that it always is. A new dipole is created and that lets new potential come in and do work and then get dissipated.

Energy always is and only is created out of thin air and is destroyed back to thin air - it never changes forms and there is no conservation. The closed system thermodynamics are wrong as is every static gravitational model and 100% of this is all logically deduced and mathematically proven with a 7 year old child's multiplication.

Summing the Force x distance in all the work in all these systems compared to the input defeats the conventional believers 100% of the time. They always lose the argument and they always will and have nothing that they can do about it other than their false arguments. What we see is that it is them who have been the real crack pots from the beginning and it is us who are open to working with open dissipative models that are practicing real science that actually demonstrate and describe natural phenomena.

[tachyon]

What we are able to prove with 7 year old children's math is that gravity absolutely is Potential Energy that can do work.

Mr. Pappas is saying the same thing applies to plants and other natural objects..


Basically every object is subject to energy regeneration , first of all the biological bodies including plants are free energy devices.. they put out more than you put in.. but will die without any energy input... gravity isn't subject to entropy .. gravity is a "measure" of time dillation.. you can't say time is entropy dependant can you? entropy is dependant on time.. so gravity is a constant not subjected to "extraterestial" forces.. and if you manufactured a round ferris wheel large enough you could have a free motion device by exploiting the gravity constant difference of poles.. have fun...

[oz6ym]

Look at the MATH...

You use 1 = - 1
Gravity ADD 1 = + 1

- 1 + 1 = 0

Nothing is gained...
Simpel, Not ?

[Aaron Murakami]

Look at the MATH...

You use 1 = - 1
Gravity ADD 1 = + 1

- 1 + 1 = 0

Nothing is gained...
Simpel, Not ?

It is a misconception that the input is a negative.

The only time real negative work can be done is if there is a reversal of entropy, dissipated heat work reverses and condenses and becomes cold and time is flowing backwards.

W = Fd to lift an object. It is POSITIVE work and contributes to the entropy of the universe. The lifting work is a HEAT event. We are calculating REAL WORK done.

W = Fd to lift, that is POSITIVE WORK. Then object has PE = mgh and when object drops and impacts ground and if it doesn't bounce, impact work is equal to lifting Fd and is also POSITIVE WORK. The impact also contributes to the entropy of the universe.

+1 unit of positive work that contributed to entropy of the universe
+ +1 unit of positive work that contributed to entropy of the universe
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+2 units total of positive work that contributed to entropy of the universe

+1 plus +1 = +2

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-1 + 1 = 0 is like vector analysis and does NOT calculate WORK.

I already did the MATH.

[Aaron Murakami]

Mr. Pappas is saying the same thing applies to plants and other natural objects..


Basically every object is subject to energy regeneration , first of all the biological bodies including plants are free energy devices.. they put out more than you put in.. but will die without any energy input... gravity isn't subject to entropy .. gravity is a "measure" of time dillation.. you can't say time is entropy dependant can you? entropy is dependant on time.. so gravity is a constant not subjected to "extraterestial" forces.. and if you manufactured a round ferris wheel large enough you could have a free motion device by exploiting the gravity constant difference of poles.. have fun...

What happened to that formula? Was that a graphic the server pulled?

[Aaron Murakami]

The conventional idea that there is negative work is completely erroneous.

It is built upon the foundation that reinforces the fictitious belief that systems are isolated from external forces that can contribute anything.

This prevents us from seeing the reality that conventional science is simply using their "negative work" concept to hide the fact that gravitational potential can actually contribute and perform work.

Lifting work and dropping impact work are BOTH heat events. They are both POSITIVE work events that contribute to the entropy of the universe.

During the lift, there is no reversal in entropy happening, there is no cooling effect happening to any positive heat occurrence, time is not flowing backwards and because of these facts, lifting work is POSITIVE work and is measured in POSITIVE joules of energy.

During the drop, same thing - we have real heat on impact dissipating the gravitational potential.

To find total work done, we add the POSITIVE heat events. We can't add any negative work events because there are none happening. And we get 2x the lifting work plain and simple.

The -1 + +1 = 0 does not have anything to do with work being done. That is dealing with vectors. THAT IS NOT WORK.

Here's a simple example...

If we start up a car and drive up the hill, we used x joules of energy in gasoline. At the top of the hill, we have x potential energy.

If we roll down the hill, we can choose to use gas if want but we could also coast. In any event, when the car comes to a stop, there is POSITIVE work happening.

If -1 + +1 = 0 was a true measurement of work done, then we have to say that the car did negative work going up the hill!

Look at your gas tank before and after you go up any mountain pass and try to tell me negative work was being done.

Hmmm, smoke coming out the tailpipe, engine so hot you can't touch it, all the "frictional resistance" between the road and the tires, etc... negative work? It's MAGIC!

All anyone has to do is look at W = Fd. Is the result of this formula negative or positive?

The answer is positive and we don't have to look any further than that in order to show that the conventional teaching is a figment of the imagination and has no basis in reality.

[tachyon]

hmm... to the bright young fellow above if 1-1=0 then why do satellites rotate around the earth if the only energy spent is during launch? most orbits last for months or years before they descend without any energy input except for the launch.. where is this energy coming from? This has to do with circular and inert motions..

the tricky part is converting a one axis kinetic energy to the other axis kinetic energy without loosing the kinetic energy

[tachyon]

What happened to that formula? Was that a graphic the server pulled?

quoted from pappas website:

Ptotal=Pg +Pa =ρgh+∫0 ρ(-ga)dh=ρgh+ρ(-mean(ga))h=ρgh-ρ(Ga)h=ρ(g-Ga)h,

where mean(ga)=Ga is the integral mean value of ga.

[andrew_paul111]

Gravitational potential at a location is equal to the work per unit mass that is done by the force of gravity to move an object to a fixed reference location.Gravitational potential energy is the energy stored in an object as the result of its vertical position or height.

solar energy for homes

[bluestix]

The only time real negative work can be done is if there is a reversal of entropy, dissipated heat work reverses and condenses and becomes cold and time is flowing backwards.

The flow of time is unrelated to entropy and centropy. Both entropic and centropic processes exist in times forward direction.

Yin and Yang.

[Aaron Murakami]

The flow of time is unrelated to entropy and centropy. Both entropic and centropic processes exist in times forward direction.

Yin and Yang.

First, please define TIME in your own words.

"Negative entropy" can happen in BOTH time forward and reverse directions.

One type of negative entropy is hot and one is cold where time is flowing forward or reverse respectively.

When I said REAL negative work is when time is flowing in reverse - that is literal and is a reference to cold negative entropy.

With hot negative entropy - time is flowing forward and that is where things can also "come together", however, it is still forward dissipative work with time flowing forward.

[Aaron Murakami]

Hot "negative entropy" - this is a simple regauging process in all "overunity" machines. A ball bouncing back up is regauging itself and is a form of "self ordering". Yet, it is contributing to entropy of the universe.

A bunch of ants that work together to form an ant hill - that is a classical open dissipative system that is demonstrating a self ordering process. It is a negative entropy process, yes it actually is a "hot" form of it since it is moving forward in time and still contributes to entropy of the universe.

Hot negative entropy would be any self-ordering process that contributes to the entropy of the universe. It isn't an oxymoron, it is a clear distinction.

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To talk about cold negative entropy, we have to define time.

Time is simply the progression of movement through the Aether in forward time. A clock doesn't measure time, it simply shows motion in increments. What determines the rate of this progression of movement? The density of the Aether. If an object sped up towards the speed of light, mass being an inductor, the Aether will induce a counter potential that resists the movement of the relatively forward or oncoming Aether and that is inertia. But the relative density of the Aether in relation to the mass is such that movement has slowed down and at that great speed, time will tick slow from an absolute reference point. That is because the progression of movement is being limited and therefore, in that area, light will also be slowed down proportionately from an absolute reference point. But to that area, it will appear to be normal speed since all of perception is subject to that higher Aetheric density - including our conscious awareness.

With less density, motion happens quicker from an absolute reference point.

Being that time is simply the progression of this movement of mass through the Aether - that is forward time.

Mass in forward time exerts an outward displacement on the Aether.

If we look at an electromagnetic coil, when it is charged, the magnetic field is condensed and polarized Aether. The density of that Aether is quite high compared to the ambient Aether. that magnetic field displaces the Aether just like an object with mass but with way more density. That is forward time phenomena.

When the coil is turned off, the ambient Aether doesn't just rebound back to where it was displaced, it gets sucked into a vacuum at negative pressure and time is reversed at that point. The potential for time to exist is locked up in the potential of that spike. That spike is an example of a cold negative entropy effect. And that self ordering potential is a negative entropy event that does not contribute to the entropy of the universe, it subtracted from it. Just one example of a real time reversed process. (the spike is potential and not work but there actually is a small amount of work associated with it since there is some detectible current)

Any circuit that can perform work with "cold electricity" has time reversed potential moving towards the point of resistances instead of away from it. That is not contributing to the entropy of the universe, that is also subtracting from it. That is an example of real negative work. That is happening when a resistor goes cold instead of hot, etc...

[bluestix]

that does not contribute to the entropy of the universe

You seem to be operating from the assumption that the big bang happened and that the universe is expanding and will eventually 'die' of entropic heat death.

Which is probably why you think it necessary to explain cold negentropic processes in terms of time. If entropy is unidirectional in time then negentropy can only happen in backwards or reversed time?

The big bang never happened. If the universe was going to die of entropic heat death it would have happened hundreds of quadrillions of years ago. Something that has no center and no edge cannot be expanding.

The greatest trick that Einstein ever pulled was convincing people that the rate of the flow of time is related to the rate of motion through space.


So there is no need to explain entropy and negentropy in terms of time. Both processes occur in times forward direction. As do all processes that we percieve and experience.

It is much clearer to think about processes in terms of Yin and Yang. Cold and Hot. Balance.

[Aaron Murakami]

You seem to be operating from the assumption that the big bang happened and that the universe is expanding and will eventually 'die' of entropic heat death.

Which is probably why you think it necessary to explain cold negentropic processes in terms of time. If entropy is unidirectional in time then negentropy can only happen in backwards or reversed time?

The big bang never happened. If the universe was going to die of entropic heat death it would have happened hundreds of quadrillions of years ago. Something that has no center and no edge cannot be expanding.

The greatest trick that Einstein ever pulled was convincing people that the rate of the flow of time is related to the rate of motion through space.


So there is no need to explain entropy and negentropy in terms of time. Both processes occur in times forward direction. As do all processes that we percieve and experience.

It is much clearer to think about processes in terms of Yin and Yang. Cold and Hot. Balance.

Sorry, I'm not sure where you come off with that interpretation of what I said. I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory and Einstein isn't behind convincing anyone that the flow of time is related to the rate of motion through space. You're misinformed here.

I gave you the proper distinctions - you can take them or leave them.