Bedini 1984 Generator

[bizzy]

Good morning Everyone
I regularly post at the energetic forum. And for those who have read my posts know that I am actively working on building a "watson Machine" "Bedini machine" or Bedini Generator or 1984 machine. I have heard it called so many differnt things. Regardless I am building one and beleive I have achieved it...
I do have a question about John's original design. According to John's first two schematics BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR it shows he is switching both positive and negative connections. Does anyone know why both are swicthed instead of just one???


Also on the 2nd diagram can anyone tell me how he is actually switching from the motor to the alternator? He uses a 555 circuit but then it shows just two arrows swicthing back and forth and I was curious how he was doing the actual swicthing.


Thanks
Bizzy

[John_Bedini]

Battery Back Popers, Back-Popping a Two-Current Lead-Acid Battery

bizzy,
Here is the information:
Bizzy,

The reason is the DC motor must be off when the dis-charge occurs.

http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/bedmot2.jpg

After looking at what Tom Bearden did in the book Electromagnetics part 4, This is what I did in 1984 to make the first model 2. I knew that it must be a switching and impedance problem, I also knew allot about pulse charging systems and what they did to the lead acid storage batteries . I also knew about charging batteries with huge Capacitor Banks. I was good at this because of the Amplifiers we were building at the time.

You run into all kinds of Impedance problems and Phasing, so this was a piece of cake. I also knew about Mass weight and what flywheels did and how they stored energy. I figured that the generator could not be the normal kind because they were saying the word ENERGIZER which really means MAGNETO, but this did not answer the question of where the current came from, the Capacitor was the answer.

The MAGNETO would charge this very fast and to High Voltages some times 10 times the battery voltage. When the machine first ran it would explode the batteries if they were bad, so I put the switch S1 to control it. When the battery would get low I would switch S1 to charge the battery back up.

This was 18 years ago with what we have today this machine can be made real easy if you tinker with it and get it set right. The ENERGIZER How did I come up with this one you see in the picture. My uncle was a old time mechanic who was a real tinker, he use to tell me of the old lighting circuits just after the horse and carriage days and things that people would never believe, this is where My MAGNETO comes from. I told Jim Watson how to do this, I never thought that he would build a Machine that big but He did. and that's the story of this machine. Jim got paid off I got pushed agents the wall and told to by gasoline the rest of My life but once you see something like this you never give up.

[John_Bedini]

Back-Popping a Two-Current Lead-Acid Battery

Back-Popping a Two-Current Lead-Acid Battery

Tom Bearden, The year is 1984

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING EXPERIMENTS ARE HAZARDOUS. DO NOT ATTEMPT THESE EXPERIMENTS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES UNLESS YOU ARE AN EXPERIENCED ELECTRICAL RESEARCHER, EXPERIENCED IN PERFORMING EXPERIMENTS WITH LEAD-ACID BATTERIES AND PULSE CHARGE AND DISCHARGE OF SAME, AND UNLESS YOU ALSO USE ALL SAFETY PRECAUTIONS SUCH AS GOGGLES AND PROTECTIVE GLOVES, SLEEVES, AND APRON. YOU MUST NOT HAVE OTHER INFLAMMABLE LIQUIDS OR OTHER SUBSTANCES PRESENT WHICH COULD BE IGNITED AND BURN OR EXPLODE. SURGED LEAD-ACID BATTERIES PRODUCE HYDROGEN GAS, WHICH CAN EASILY EXPLODE SINCE SPARKING ALSO CAN OCCUR. THE ACID FROM SUCH AN EXPLOSION CAN EASILY BLIND YOU IF IT GETS IN YOUR EYES, AND IT CAN BURN YOUR SKIN. IN ADDITION, LEAD AND LEAD COMPOUNDS ARE POISONS, AND ARE TO BE HANDLED ONLY BY EXPERIENCED RESEARCHERS. THESE EXPERIMENTS ARE NOT FOR AMATEURS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT ONLY FOR EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS WITH PROPER KNOWLEDGE AND TRAINING, AND USING PROPER PRECAUTIONS. NEITHER THE AUTHOR NOR THE PUBLISHER IS REPONSIBLE OR LIABLE FOR ANY ACCIDENTS OR DAMAGE YOU MAY ENCOUNTER, AND ALL EXPERIMENTATION WITH THESE DEVICES AND PROCEDURES IS AT YOUR OWN ASSUMED PERSONAL RISK. More than one inventor has discovered or rediscovered a "magic" thing about lead-acid storage batteries powering circuits, usually without understanding precisely what it is that he has really discovered. The chemical and electrical actions going on in a lead-acid cell are quite complex, and involve interactions in both the positive plate, negative plate, and in the electrolyte itself. The usual chemical interactions primarily specify the overall changes of the plate materials from one form to the other (i. e. , for charge and for discharge conditions). However, there are many other ions (including both H+ which are free protons, and free electrons) involved in the reactions.

Particularly significant is the double surface and overpotential effects. We state without further elaboration that the proper use of the overpotentials in these double surfaces can produce current that moves against the voltage. In other words, there are processes available in the battery that allow -- under very precise conditions -- parts of the battery to perform as negative resistors. When that action occurs, the very notion of "charge and discharge" is reversed.

Further, the multiple currents and many nonlinear mechanisms involved, allow various currents to move in opposite directions; some with the voltage and some against the voltage. Again, we leave further analysis along that line to the experts, only appealing to them that time-reversal effects must also be considered.

In other words, in addition to the "external charges" of molecules and atoms that they normally consider, there are also ongoing a huge variety of nuclear currents and charging that presently do not appear in any book on batteries, at least any I know of.

There are at least three major currents in such a battery: (1) the ion current in the electrolyte, (2) the electron current in the conductors (electrode materials, terminal connectors, etc), and (3) charge transfer reactions at the electrode/electrolyte interfaces. For our purposes we shall consider primarily only the ion current and the electron current, and we consider only lead-acid batteries. For an introduction to various kinds of batteries, we refer the interested reader to a fine little text by Vincent, and to other similar texts on modern batteries. For deep understanding of the electrochemistry, we refer the reader to the full series of 13 volumes by Bockris and Conway.

We shall also rather ignore the double layer effects, which are in fact quite important because they are responsible for the producing overpotentials, phase shifting of currents, etc. The present "analysis" can be materially deepened by taking into account the double surface layers, their redistributions of charge, the internal resistances of the cell to the various currents, etc. We leave that for the experts and encourage that it be done. Here we just wish to get at the basic servomechanism overshoot mechanism that one can evoke, which usually does not appear in conventional analyses at all. This mechanism can be used to produce (1) currents (either ion or electron or H+) moving against the voltage, (2) opposition charge densities which are then volumetrically "squeezed" to produce large overpotentials not normally connected with the charge transfer interactions at the double surfaces, and (3) specific phase shifting of currents.

It is our contention that, by achieving proper timing of these overshoot effects in battery in ionic current resonance, one can produce an asymmetrically self-regauging battery which charges itself and also powers its load. For the purist, there are also other mechanisms involved that are still unknown, hence accounting for the "adjustments" and "tuning" that usually must be meticulously performed.

For an equal charge, the ions in the lead ion current (say, in lead sulfate) are several hundred thousand times more massive than the electrons in the electron current. They are on the order of more than 200 times more massive than the H+ ions in that ionic current. Further, the ionic current will resonate (and probably other currents simultaneously as well, since resonance in this case probably represents a coordinated resonance among different currents) as shown by Ahluktenko, usually in the multi-megahertz range. Since the battery is so highly nonlinear in its dynamics, subharmonic and harmonic resonance effects also are present, particularly subharmonic resonances. We believe that it is also possible to couple and synchronize molecular oscillations, ion current oscillations, and material lattice oscillations in the electrodes, in harmonic and subharmonic oscillation fashion, but that is a quite different subject. Such more subtle (but can be powerful) effects may occur only after several minutes to several hours of operation in the "normal resonance" condition.

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[John_Bedini]

[John_Bedini]

[John_Bedini]

Back-Popping a Two-Current Lead-Acid Battery

One of John's battery-powered electrical motors, e.g., ran continuously off its battery for about five years, and kept the battery charged. When you realize that such a small electric motor is only about 35% efficient, then you realize that about 65% of the energy flowing out of the battery was being dissipated in the motor as heat, core losses, etc. So the unit was continuously performing work for that five years. The 1/8 hp motor represented a load in which the continuous rate of work being done (the rate of energy dissipation) was about 0. 08 hp.

The little device was a battery-popper, and we have already covered the theory of such units in the treatise above. We need not repeat it here.

John built a variety of other motors and generators, some of extremely novel design. Several of these units did work at overunity performance.

John also was active in assisting other young inventors to get started.

I can assure you of one thing. If I personally ever succeed in this area, then there are a few people who are going to be endowed. John Bedini is right up there at the top of the list.

(See "Bedini's Method for Forming Negative Resistors in Batteries")



Nelson's Self-Regenerating "Back-Popped" Battery Power Unit (The Tesla Switch)

[Claude Champagne]

Good day,

you say;
"let me warn you that you must use microwave switching techniques, and you must switch in 5 nanoseconds or less; one nanosecond is better. The entire overpotential is likely to be over in about 20 to 40 nanoseconds, depending upon the specific battery, load, and other circuit conditions. Capacitance effects may extend this in some cases up to a microsecond. So if all you know is ordinary motor switching, go get the services of a microwave switching engineer first."

Do you mean that the switching must be done with microwave transistors ?
On your book, it looks like the switching is done with a relay and also Watson's machine. http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/bedmot2.jpg

Thank you for your time and support!
Take care.

[Tom C]

"You've just got yourself a true free energy or negative resistor effect, if you can master it and use it with proper timing. Note that by simple switching (very sharply, in 5 nanoseconds or less) and phase relationships, you can take power electron current in the external circuit in the discharge mode, by simply letting this overpotential be connected to the external circuit to energize the Drude electrons. And you are momentarily doing that while you are still charging the battery"

(See "Bedini's Method for Forming Negative Resistors in Batteries") also known as the MONOPOLE ENERGISER





the battery becomes a negative resistor..... the BATTERY!!! Alum or acid, it is in the battery, you need good batteries and fast switching. not fast as in many in a short time, but fast transients on and off quickly. this is why coil impedance and inductance is so important. add the negative resistance in the transistor, and the diodes negative resistances (shottky) you can have a whizbang setup!

Tom C

[Faraday88]

"You've just got yourself a true free energy or negative resistor effect, if you can master it and use it with proper timing. Note that by simple switching (very sharply, in 5 nanoseconds or less) and phase relationships, you can take power electron current in the external circuit in the discharge mode, by simply letting this overpotential be connected to the external circuit to energize the Drude electrons. And you are momentarily doing that while you are still charging the battery"

(See "Bedini's Method for Forming Negative Resistors in Batteries") also known as the MONOPOLE ENERGISER





the battery becomes a negative resistor..... the BATTERY!!! Alum or acid, it is in the battery, you need good batteries and fast switching. not fast as in many in a short time, but fast transients on and off quickly. this is why coil impedance and inductance is so important. add the negative resistance in the transistor, and the diodes negative resistances (shottky) you can have a whizbang setup!

Tom C

Hi,
There is a mention of Bill Nelson's Microwave switching technique in John's Website. Is there any more information of bill Nelson Method..?
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Hi John,
The Jim Watson set-up picture on your page reads '12KV', does it mean that the o/p of the G-field was scaled up to 12 kV?

Rgds,
Faraday88.

One of John's battery-powered electrical motors, e.g., ran continuously off its battery for about five years, and kept the battery charged. When you realize that such a small electric motor is only about 35% efficient, then you realize that about 65% of the energy flowing out of the battery was being dissipated in the motor as heat, core losses, etc. So the unit was continuously performing work for that five years. The 1/8 hp motor represented a load in which the continuous rate of work being done (the rate of energy dissipation) was about 0. 08 hp.

The little device was a battery-popper, and we have already covered the theory of such units in the treatise above. We need not repeat it here.

John built a variety of other motors and generators, some of extremely novel design. Several of these units did work at overunity performance.

John also was active in assisting other young inventors to get started.

I can assure you of one thing. If I personally ever succeed in this area, then there are a few people who are going to be endowed. John Bedini is right up there at the top of the list.

(See "Bedini's Method for Forming Negative Resistors in Batteries")



Nelson's Self-Regenerating "Back-Popped" Battery Power Unit (The Tesla Switch)

[Faraday88]

Hi Bizzy,


The critical aspect of this machine is the G-Field coils, look carefully they are complimentry to the SSG coil.
if you can answer why a Capacitor is Interfaced and then Pulsed Discharged into the battery.you will understand it.
Studying Bedini's Patent you will realize that the First Patent is a combination of both the G-field and the SSG.
the second Patent is even close to the Gray Machine in a way. plus it emphasis on the Monopole aspect of the process.
i have them working..think think..
rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Hi Bizzy,


The critical aspect of this machine is the G-Field coils, look carefully they are complimentry to the SSG coil.
if you can answer why a Capacitor is Interfaced and then Pulsed Discharged into the battery.you will understand it.
Studying Bedini's Patent you will realize that the First Patent is a combination of both the G-field and the SSG.
the second Patent is even close to the Gray Machine in a way. plus it emphasis on the Monopole aspect of the process.
i have them working..think think..
rgds,
Faraday88.

''Try desperately to Succeed and do not hope for success'' : Micheal Faraday

[Woody]

So, looking at the diagram on page 32 in FEG, there is a variable cap that is between the energizer and the battery. Does anyone have the specs on that cap? If so, where can they be had?

Thanks,

-Woody

[Faraday88]

Hi Woody,

Think deeper on what this 'Variable Capacitor' actually is..? it may not be a physical Variable Capacitor at all as the Diagram indicates. (most Patent drawings do this trick) , but it does really represent the function of a 'Variable Capacacitance 'in a different sense. the Coil in the G-Field function same as this Variable Capacitor. you catch this and you have done it!!!!!
my best wishes.
rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

Hi Bromikey,
Yes, i am working now on upgrading the 360%version of what JB mentioned in that DVD..the one shown was only 120% version..
and to tell you... this is also the key to the E.V Gray coil..
JB made it Variable Capacitor (which it is in a way) so did Stan make it Variable Inductor (Complimentary to JB circuit)in his VIC circuit.....think..think what it is all about..
Rgds,
Faraday88.