Dissecting Erfinder’s comments

[Tom C]

thread is locked it is just too hostile here......

Tom C

[OrthoParameter]

Boy,
better stay with your own tiny thread with only 3 replies, made by you alone (loneliness ), and don't try to jump on the arena here, flattering the admin and throwing insults (hoping it would be counted as justice support).

Another good option, as you live in Idaho - go to visit JB and gain knowledge from the one (of the few) "In the know", instead deceiving yourself, that compliments would inveil real knowledge.

Barking here would not would not make you understanding things.

@admin - you have completely ignored insults by radiantnrg..... double standards show the dipole of truth

@radiantnrg - as I said before; you are having a projector malfunction. If you do not understand what I mean then say, "you are rude. You are spamming. You are insulting." Now stand in front of the mirror and say it again. Get it? All of your deficient personality traits, you are projecting onto erfinder. Reread all of your insults and accusations and forgive yourself. It will make you a better person in your next life.

[fredsavage]

I wish everyone their best, I am not qualified to speak on this subject and since I cannot comprehend what is being shared here, and my request for a bench tool for understanding was rejected, I will not be posting on this thread anymore, I have nothing to contribute, and do not wish the wrath of either the forum admins or the person this thread is about...... taking my book and going sailing.

Fred

[fredsavage]

in the interest of trying to add something here, this is the title of the book Erfider was referring to in his video.


Basic Electricity
United States. Dept. of the Army Naval Education and Training Program Development Center
- January 1, 1977
Department of Defense, Department of the Army
- Publisher

Fred

[Kiril_Kirilov]

AdMin, I am not confused by this at all and hale your reigning this mess in. This thing of defending rudeness, intimidation, disrespect, putting every one on these boards down for the sake of some "supposed" secret info is real garbage! So any on these boards who comes up with anything new is automatically allowed to act in the most disrespectful ways possible and every just eats it ???????? Opposing - disrespecting, and trashing everyone on board is called "getting worked up"? WOW, many times shocking WOW!

Boy,
better stay with your own tiny thread with only 3 replies, made by you alone (loneliness ), and don't try to jump on the arena here, flattering the admin and throwing insults (hoping it would be counted as justice support).

Another good option, as you live in Idaho - go to visit JB and gain knowledge from the one (of the few) "In the know", instead deceiving yourself, that compliments would inveil real knowledge.

Barking here would not would not make you understanding things.

[Radiantnrg]

AdMin, I am not confused by this at all and hale your reigning this mess in. This thing of defending rudeness, intimidation, disrespect, putting every one on these boards down for the sake of some "supposed" secret info is real garbage! So any on these boards who comes up with anything new is automatically allowed to act in the most disrespectful ways possible and every just eats it ???????? Opposing - disrespecting, and trashing everyone on board is called "getting worked up"? WOW, many times shocking WOW!

Why don't all of you guys who just defended rudeness, disrespect, intimidation, spamming, big egos, trash accusations, in the name of "some supposed secret info" go start your own web site together where you can fully engage in these types of behavior. If this "secret info" is so good then it really deserves its own web site and not use others sites like this one to spam on and reek havoc!

[bigmotherwhale]

Hey AdMin
I AM Am bit confused by all this, this is a thread on erfinder, and the site is about science not politics, whether he has been rude or whatever you say is true is irrelevant in my opinion.
what we have here is too important to get worked up about.
It would be a shame to lose someone who has shown something that no one else on this forum has shown, including the site founders.
best regards
BmW

[Kiril_Kirilov]

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The underlying point of the dipole is to have a potential difference so that the source potential can move from one point to another and do work on the way. You can completely taking this primary point out of context in your post, which only shows that it is you who do not understand what it is. It doesn't matter how many poles you have, the only way any of it works is because there are potential differences and that is the point, which you evidently do not understand.
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Hey, admin...
Would you now be so kind and explain us in laymans terms how to use it in self sustaining manner?

And speaking about abuse, please be open minded enough and read all the posts in this thread, not only those pointed to you, and apply the same appproach about the abuse and audacity...

Don't just skip biased the posts, full with accusations, like they don't exist....Otherwise I and probably other would feel the justice applied in a destined way...

Kindest regards,
Kiril Kirilov

[admin]

The one thing that I know for certain is that no one is asking the right questions. Since this discussion has no practical value to a select few, I direct this at them. What is the Dipole! Note the lack of question mark....I am not asking you to inform me of what it is, I have my own dogma of what it is, but inquiring minds would like your take on it. See, honestly I don't think those of you who take cheap shots at me have a clue! The one that you assume to have was given to you by someone else......You hang around with the inner circle wannabees....trying to get in good with them so as to be seen as one of them, good luck with that....The inner group surrounds the man with the knowledge....how much of "his knowledge" have you been able to distill from the sea of information which occult's the gems we all know he has? See, I don't bad mouth my sources of inspiration, I have no sympathy for their cheerleaders though, the merry band of rear smoochers, those who will do any and everything to keep the king of the mound happy, whomever that might be. How much have you been able to figure out?

The way I see it......the mother of all secrets is in properly defining the entity we ignorantly call the dipole isn't it? Isn't that where Bearden says all the energy is pouring in from? I repeat my question, my challenge.....tell them what a dipole really is.....let me help you on this one....show them the dual monopole, the clover....the quadrapole! Explain to them how it works, in layman's terms, show them how to use it in a self sustaining manner.....clever switching my ass.....do that and I will leave! This challenge is not directed at the ones who inspired me to seek it out myself. This challenge is directed at the cheerleaders, minions of the man with the knowledge.


Regards

Since you admit it is your own dogma and have the audacity to give people attitude about what your own dogmatic viewpoint is, then you're abusing people. It is just talk without actually saying anything.

You also apparently have no problem bad mouthing other people's sources of inspiration - people who contribute more in year to this field than you have in your lifetime.

The underlying point of the dipole is to have a potential difference so that the source potential can move from one point to another and do work on the way. You can completely taking this primary point out of context in your post, which only shows that it is you who do not understand what it is. It doesn't matter how many poles you have, the only way any of it works is because there are potential differences and that is the point, which you evidently do not understand.

Your attitude towards the members of this forum is not only unappreciated it is unacceptable. If you can't speak to other with respect, then leave.

[erfinder]

The way I understand it, the dipole is charge and discharge from the dielectric, or rephrased, the dielectric in charge and discharge mode. There is one dielectric; there is one coil topology in particular that interacts most strongly with the dielectric.
Bob

That post wasn't directed at you Bob...I am sure they know who I was talking to. Not a bad try....however its not what we are looking for. At present, waveform are what preoccupies them....


Regards

[OrthoParameter]

[B][I][U][COLOR="#FF0000"] I am super brilliant and don't need anything from you and call your bluff. I will ignore you and build many different machines. Nothing hidden, no ego, all clearly, openly explained, and given away freely by me.

You said you were going to leave this thread. You started your own thread and no one followed you there. You say you are super brilliant then state you have no ego. Below you state your machines will output thousands of times as much as your motor consumes. You keep saying we and us but I don't see anyone but you. You are a hoot dude! Come back when you have something besides words of discontent about someone who actually has an incredible machine already working!

OrthoParameter, The motor section will be over-unity by some amount on its own. We really don't care by how much just that it is so we don't have to make an electrical connection between the motor and generator. The main electrical output will come from the generator and by far outweigh the electrical out put of the motor section by many thousands of times. Our initial goal is 3KW to 10KW @ 110volts. I hope that makes more sense. I need to be more careful how I use the terms power, torque, energy, and electrical output.

Everyone has simply decided to forget the thread topic. No one is trying to understand the affects presented. All I hear is whining. All I see is jealous raging. Pathetic and Childlike behaviour. Get on topic or shut up.

Well, not everyone

[bob smith]

What is the Dipole! Note the lack of question mark....I am not asking you to inform me of what it is, I have my own dogma of what it is, but inquiring minds would like your take on it.

The way I understand it, the dipole is charge and discharge from the dielectric, or rephrased, the dielectric in charge and discharge mode. There is one dielectric; there is one coil topology in particular that interacts most strongly with the dielectric.
Bob

[erfinder]

I don't recommend folks build anything, this recommendation is always ignored, I don't expect you to behave any differently than the rest.
I say if you don't get the kit, you wont see what I see, and this is true! Why folks think otherwise is beyond me.....

I don't buy you're kit because I am super brilliant and don't need anything from you and call your bluff. I will ignore you and build many different machines. I don't believe a word you say anyway. The sooner others see this too the better for them. I said this same thing pages back several times so why do you all drag this thing on and on? I call this a 28 page psychological, psy-op, informercial, sales pitch. Stop feeding the monster. Don't buy the kit, build your own machines, experiment, think for yourselves. I will help you any way I can! Nothing hidden, no ego, all given away freely by me.

I am sorry I failed you. I am sure folks will appreciate all you give them...don't do anything that will negatively effect your image....what I mean is don't bash me to make you look good....just be better than me....

[Radiantnrg]

I don't recommend folks build anything, this recommendation is always ignored, I don't expect you to behave any differently than the rest.
I say if you don't get the kit, you wont see what I see, and this is true! Why folks think otherwise is beyond me.....

I don't buy you're kit because I am super brilliant and don't need anything from you and call your bluff. I will ignore you and build many different machines. I don't believe a word you say anyway. The sooner others see this too the better for them. I said this same thing pages back several times so why do you all drag this thing on and on? I call this a 28 page psychological, psy-op, informercial, sales pitch. Stop feeding the monster. Don't buy the kit, build your own machines, experiment, think for yourselves. I will help you any way I can! Nothing hidden, no ego, all clearly, openly explained, and given away freely by me.

[erfinder]

actually I asked the only question that really matters, who you wont share the circuit and how it works..... OH I know you want my money....


I find this fascinating that Erfinder has not responded to my post, but ortho did..... thanks for the insult, I will not respond in kind. it was a simple request to put on the bench the theory Erfinder has espoused, you want 2500 dollars to see an effect? really? for 2500 I want a working device that powers itself and runs loads. that is the holy grail, you Erfinder have made zero claims, only tried in round circular descriptions to say something that has led you to something you do not want to give away......

at least the members of this forum (most of them anyway) are willing to share what they know. thanks Patrick, after seeing your post on coil paralleling I will try it and see how a PWM can chop the wave.

thanks Tom C for the post on the side by side coils over on the Ferris wheel thread, I think it has some merit to how the circuit is driven. perhaps if one set of coils is switched at the zero cross of the other set, it might give us something we can use.

Fred

Fred....Fred.....can I call you Fred? You ask me the only question that matters to you. A question that I have answered several times. Why you expect my response to you would be any different...I will repeat it here for you in bold type....The circuit doesn't matter!! How it works....that's a good question but it too was answered. What I said, doesn't matter to you. That's not my problem. I told all exactly what I do and why.

Whats fascinating is how you feel I owe you something. Whats fascinating is that you feel insulted for not receiving a response from me when you want it....feel free to respond or not its up to you. Now you call what I have been sharing a "theory" that I haven't demonstrated on the bench?!?! Uh....I want 2500 for the kit. You say to see an effect. You don't have to purchase one. Good luck finding a machine that powers itself and external loads for 2500.....you cant get a decent high output conventional generator for that....hell in some states...you cant find a decent shirt and tie for that amount....a self powering shirt and tie combo which can power external loads would rock...

I don't make claims....that's right, I am informing you of principles, demonstrable principles which can lead to even greater revelations. And I am giving it away.....you just don't like my method....your problem.

Most members on this forum are willing to share what they know.....uh....most members on this form are willing to share with you that which you already know, or should already know...right.....? You now want "try" Patricks coil paralleling....pulse it with a PWM.....uh...ok.....go for it? Thanks Tom for the post on the side by side coils....huh....you are thanking these guys.....LOL.....I wonder if they would even be looking in this area if it weren't for this thread that's leading "you" into their grace....? Look back in the history....this subject was ancient history, a dead subject....why the newly sparked interest.....! Think man! I am trying to give you something you can use, that's what I do, if you cant see that....oh well. The only bad thing in that is you are the only one who looses in the end.


Regards