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  • vrvs
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    The paint additive Air-ReNu releases a continuous flow of healthy negative ions. Most odor molecules that "floats in the air have a positive charge. These particles act as large "rafts for toxic chemicals such as urine and smoking odors. Negative ions are attracted to this positive charge like the opposing poles of a magnet. When the negative ion gives up its charge to the particle, it becomes attracted too other positively charged particles in the air, forming masses that are too heavy to remain suspended and fall eliminating the odor. Air-ReNu a permeant solution to indoor air quality, the best part you only have to apply it one time. It keeps working 7/24/365.

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  • thebanano
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    greeting blackchisel97...
    thank's for opening this thread...completing my bob beck device, i was searching how to build an ozone generator, but seriously i've never jump up on the HV field (fear with logo of HV and the lightning strike with the red text ANGER!)
    so i've decided to buy from china an ozone generator/water bubbler. It cost's $30 for free shipping. That thing only stay about 3 month or less. first the pump was idle, then the box starting to bite everypeople in my house, when they want to use it (if the light of my room was not so bright, there's a purple light out of between the snap box and the joint)
    So i open up the box, switch on, and bang, that purple thing bite my wedding ring, and shock me up, that was danger, but not DANGER! :lol:
    the circuit lies with a 2 type of transformer, a flyback, and a typical E core, with 2 0f 3/4" stainless tube laying separate but connected each other via an aquarium hose.
    After that, i decided to make mine. Thank's to the internet and the energeticforumdotcom for sharing the ideas . Couraging my self and something i've got a lot from here : Ozone generator..., i completed my ozone generator (people in my house start missing their ozonated water and food). My Ozone generator can wipe out a toilet paper about a meter, if the input was 16 volt, 500 mA, (can't go higher than that, my FBT start flaw) but that was not enough to bubbling a glass of water. I want to try to add an aquarium pump in the back of the output unit, but someone's forum on the net (sorry i forgot the address again) say's that the best ozone generator for health purpose has to produce via negative output, while an FBT only producing an Positive Output. So my ozone generator only used for treat a raw food, cleaning up the room (sometimes cleaning up the smell of my boot, and for an used drug bottles for my CS storage). Now the insulation material (plastic) start leaking, maybe this time i have to upgrade my ozone generator, i want to try ceramic insulation, it's funny that i've meet an handycraft artist that want to build that insulation.

    For my healthy balance of air in my rest room, i was using an negative ion generator based on cockroft-walton style/multipler voltage via capacitor and diode. That was a thing that we must have in our rest room. for a full day of work, that was an artificial heaven in our private room
    The best capacitor i think is an x2 ceramic capacitor, with 30 off 10nF 220v x2 capacitor, connecting in half way rectifier, would produce optimal result for a room with 3 x 3 m dimension.
    Below my ozone generator, using an printer adaptor that lies around me...

    kind regards

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    I've had ionizers in the past, but I was not too satisfied with their usefulness. Ozone is a consequence of this type of set up, and is not really what is needed in a room, or something that you would want to have to breath.
    When the ionizer is working, it will also precipitate everything that is in the air, to near by it, to table surfaces, floor, walls etz... So, you get this smudge all over everything.
    I did not experience anything positive from these ionizers, even less than just opening a window to let fresh air into the room. Certainly not the same effect as a waterfall, being on the ocean front, or any other outside natural pure air activity or situation.
    Hi NickZ. Many devices on the market are useless and don't do what their manufacturers claim. I'm working on the device which creates negative ionic wind without significant amounts of ozone. Once you allow more current and create corona discharge you'll end up with ozone, which is fine for disinfecting purposes but shall not be used in occupied and enclosed spaces. I want very small amount of negative ions to be produced in this process only to restore healthy balance of the air I'm breathing.
    Yes, polarized particles will cause all impurities floating in the air to stick to the surfaces which have opposing charge but I prefer to dust them off rather than inhale it.
    Second part is using small amount of ozone - by adjusting jets to create ozonated water thru the bubbler and diffuser rock. I'll do some tests on plants first.

    Thanks
    Vtech

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  • NickZ
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    I've had ionizers in the past, but I was not too satisfied with their usefulness. Ozone is a consequence of this type of set up, and is not really what is needed in a room, or something that you would want to have to breath.
    When the ionizer is working, it will also precipitate everything that is in the air, to near by it, to table surfaces, floor, walls etz... So, you get this smudge all over everything.
    I did not experience anything positive from these ionizers, even less than just opening a window to let fresh air into the room. Certainly not the same effect as a waterfall, being on the ocean front, or any other outside natural pure air activity or situation.

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  • blackchisel97
    started a topic Positive effects of negative ions

    Positive effects of negative ions

    I would like to start this thread to share some of my findings and hope to inspire others to experiment. There is a vast amount of info in our great free library - internet therefore I'll keep the intro to the minimum and let you do more research into that matter.
    The ions are basically atomic particles carrying charge, either positive or negative. This applies to the air surrounding us and while being most vital element ( we cannot survive without beyond a few minutes) it is also one of the most polluted one. Clean air (78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen plus trace amount of noble gasses) consists positive and negative ions in about 5:4 ratio. It has been found that any change in that ratio will affect all forms of biological systems - including humans, of course.
    There is am excellent book written in '70 by Fred Soyka - The Ion Effect. I look at eBay last night and found couple copies reasonably priced.
    If you research this topic you'll find that over 85%-90% of scientific reports state benefits of negative ions, remaining 14% - 9% reports claim no effect and less than 1% detail some detrimental effects. For me it was convincing enough to search for more information.
    Despite overwhelming reports supporting negatively charged air and ozonated water benefits to our health, most manufacturers of such devices refrain from making such bold claims. Wonder why
    Target of my project is to make replicable device capable of cleaning air by using negative ions and small amounts of ozone. Also, capable of making ozonated water, oil etc.
    There is always more than one way to skin the cat and this case is no different. What we need is a source of reliable and tunable high voltage supply, launcher - in the form of electrodes or arrays and for second part - ozonated water we'll need a source of compressed air, such as fish tank pump and maybe even stone diffuser.
    One way of generating HV would be by the use of voltage multiplier, such as - Click image for larger version

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    Second, which I decide to do is based on flyback TV transformer. They usually resonate in 20kHz range. Mine does at 28kHz and pulls 0.36A from 12V DC source. I'm not looking for spectacular purple discharge but just glowing tips of the electrodes for the creation of ionic wind rather than massive amounts of ozone.
    Right now I've been running my driver circuit for the past few hours and it runs cool without heatsink on FET's. However, it is possible to run with more power and produce 2+ inch purple arc but this will cost about 4A and require transistors to be mounted on heatsink. I'm using small pancake coil connected to the scope probe to "sniff" the sine wave from a distance.
    This is the circuit of flyback driver designed by Vladimiro Mazzilli-
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    I'll provide more info and technical detail as I progress and of course if there is an interest in this subject.

    Thanks
    Vtech
    Last edited by blackchisel97; 12-02-2012, 01:26 PM.
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