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  • russwr
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    Currently researching the S1R9A9M9 methods of adding additional higher voltage to the engine's lower voltage electrolysis spark plug end use. The extreme high resistance air gap at tips changes to electrical load of 22 ohms resistance or higher with conductive mineral waters as a tiny cell. The extra volts added then allows 6-7 amps to flow, rather than .1 amp, creating sufficient Hydrogen and water vapor pressure to sustain all his previous engines converted with zero ohm spark plugs, and making use of "cross over leakage Inductance voltage" as superimposed and added in series with main DC power wire. We are assuming that's the way it was done, but there are 6 other methods to consider. This was Nathren's and his son Nathren's and shop technician's invention during 2005-2012 Georgia. His wife's car 1978 V8 El Camino tooled around on 18MPG water before being locked up in security garage after 3000miles on water in gas tank. (EGR must be applied to smooth out engine running because of the Nitrogen compound being reused and piston compressed from the water.) Later, when a substitute welded steel box replaced the car gas tank, some drippings from exhaust was reused and greatly increased MPG again. I won't say what was told about that, from the now shut down web forum. As for his last, Briggs mower engine conversion, there is sufficient room in the plastic tub hanging on the side of 18HP engine from YouTube videos , to hold a hand wound step up autotransformer for => 100 volts to use, similar size, and along with the S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly. Got it? Bench testing about 2013 by Daniel Donatelli -Issue,- "Explode salt water upon demand" pgs92-97, Document showed voltage applied to spark plug of mower engine of 100-240volts DC allowed the capacitor discharge to turn over engine with force, with electrolyte water in combustion chamber. (Closing in on the relentless water engine - stage 5 of 6 stages.)
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  • russwr
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    In the past, there has been controversy regarding whether or not the photograph of S1R triple coils assembly from 2008 was hokey- fake, because of the highly unusual winding of the wires. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ANOTHER DIFFERENT ONE THAT WAS REALLY USED FOR THE FAMOUS 2 YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF 2008. Please refer to the photo of earlier messages. I had made many versions of it over a considerable amount of time. Recently I looked at this in a different light. There are 3 reasons I believe that one SHOWN was the original , and was actually used during the two 2008 successful demonstrations of Briggs 18HP mower engine that ran on mineral water in carburetor.

    Get this -- (1) First we were told that the coils had electromagnet that was on all the time. That means a wire had to hook to ground for completed circuit. There was an external extension cord that connected to ground, if the male plug was bridged together. The photo of coils actually shows a wire cut off with frayed ends. SEE The PHOTO FOR THE JOINT, it has 3 wires together with black electrical tape. The unit was removed from plastic tub on side of engine and taken into house for photo to put on Nathren's web forum. Nathren later said he was going to show another video of coils winding method, but showed one of take apart only. The unit placed on the table was the exact same one verified. He had previously removed the THIRD STUB WIRE and retaped up the joint, so as during the take apart video, no one would see the 3rd wire. You can see the difference. He did not want people to know about the electromagnet connection to ground.

    (2nd) There were multiple statements regarding an extra 100 volts was necessary going to spark plug along with the 12v battery + 12 magnets powered alternator lower voltages. The bare wire under the insulated wire can cause cross leakage induction of 100 volts - not 6000 volts, due to the GREATLY LOWERED ignition volts from the self powered Magnetron. (The plug IS conductive across the tips)

    (3rd) - The end use was not spark plug firing in the air, or under compression with open electrodes of plug. Engine was running on conductive mineral water covering the spark plug tips in combustion chamber. The high volts fired from the Magnetron passes through the triple coils assembly using BARE COPPER #12 gauge wire. The outer wrappings were #14 gauge insulated wire. Normally, high volts from bare wire would jump- cross fire into the TAP JOINT and travel to the side ground , and bypass, not fire spark plug. But now Magnetron sees about 20 ohms of low resistance of conductive mineral water! This greatly lowers the high volts. The lowered voltage now travels through spark plug . The other power wire now WITH THE ADDITIVE 100V IN SERIES, then fires 10 amps through spark plug forming Hydrogen gas electrolysis fuel and fires it. Also water vapor pressure is generated that aids the piston pressure of engine. All this happens in an instant of time. I now believe the ORIGINAL SHOWN S1R coils was viable, and no other coils assembly was used.
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  • russwr
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    The "Smack" video reference mentioned was about him draining out fluid from the Briggs engine. There was antifreeze mixed with oil + small amount of gasoline. Nathren did add all that that ahead of time when the Federal agents came to his property to investigate free energy claims. He didn't want to deal with them and get in trouble with national claims on You tube. They smelled the gas , and then were satisfied and left. The engine was then, left in his garage as is, until Smack showed up. He made several mistakes while he was there with the engine, that I noticed. - Not a qualified engine man or investigator.

    There were, many years back, written statements I found as to 2 other people who had duplicated the S1R engine conversion, and their engines had idled on water in the carburetor. - (Hydrogen + water vapor pressure) A wire inductor 1 millihenry was included in circuit. Another statement I received back, did not give exacting details, but said,-- "YOU WILL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED" - which I took as another positive response!

    The S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly is an ELECTROMAGNET with extension coil . (Not transformer) The magnetic field is always on, 100% duty cycle, while the 7 turns coil waits for the high voltage pulse to fire spark plug. The included other inductor is charged, the following diode is ON, and then the high V. pulse hits the diode cathode shutting it off. The pulse reverts back ,and fires plug. The main 10 amps then goes through plug with ALSO the greater than 100 volts in addition to the battery volts. You see, the S1R coil also gives off cross leakage induction voltage that is in series with main power. In a regular low efficiency electrolysis cell at low volts, it depends on large square inches of electrode area for amps allowed and amount of gases released. The spark plug tips are way smaller electrodes and require way higher voltage to get FASTER gases evolution. This is what the Georgia 3 technicians came up with during 2005-2012..
    There are 7 methods to get higher volts to ADD to spark plug. Many parts were in the plastic tub hanging on side of Briggs engine. A small autotransformer same size as S1r coils would also fit in the tub. The web forum mentioned car engines paragraph about 60 turns over spark plug cables for induction into the amps line.The original sealed relay physical size, with 2 coils and diode that was used on all car engines,also fits in the tub. It is now assumed that the S1r coils formed the required magnetic field for spark plug and also at the same time provided the needed 100 volts. The 100 volts was mentioned many times in the web forum. They said the cylinder "process" carries over to the next revolution of piston. The mineral water is conductive and is sustained.

    .If you watch S1R9A9M9 video 1 again at low speed , you can see the 3 wires from engine top going down into plastic tub to the other parts. The white #12 gauge wire at bottom of tub takes the High V, the low V, and 100v , and 10 amps to spark plug. The ground connection for ELECTROMAGNET comes from the added extension cord connected to ground exactly at plug, and the other end of the " V" to the plastic tub. The cord male plug end is breached together.

    Hydrogen fires extremely fast and requires late negative timing ATDC. The Electromagnet magnetic field formed , OVER PLUG WIRE BARE COPPER produces a continuous spark from 0 degrees to minus 34 degrees before shutting off . It was just easier for the 3 technicians to make a wire coil than do machining for aluminum curved bracket with curved slot for relocating BRIGGS ignition Magnetron for manual adjustment of timing , like on the old engines of movable distributors. You got it now?

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  • russwr
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    I finally got around to test the spark plug that was used in Nathren's Briggs mower water engine demonstration from YouTube 2008. The 18 HP normally used a long reach 4000 ohm plug. I proved it was possible to send 10 amps through the replacement that was used back then. The electromagnet to ground had about 4.5 amps draw 100% duty cycle, while the spark plug firing of 0 degrees to neg late timing 34 degrees was about 34% on time of 10 amps draw. The engine was self running as after the battery was disconnected, the 12 MAGNETS powered alternator provided about 15 amps with bridge rectifier added at idle speed.

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  • russwr
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    Multiple "lower volts" neon bulbs voltmeter, <1000v, can be used for testing the cross leakage induction volts, that's transferred from S1R9A9M9 coils assembly, and in series with "power low volts" line going to spark plug. This was to add minimum 100 volts to the power supply, so that proper gases evolution is allowed for electrolysis and Hydrogen gases formed at those tiny electrodes. The other 3rd.photo is my current version of S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly that provides several functions at the same time, as per the original one made by Nathren in Georgia from 2008. The 2nd photo IS this original, unusual, hand wound electromagnet - triple wires assembly. Steel core under 13 turns #14 as special wind, and 7 turns 90 degrees special wind #14 on 5 turns #12 plus 1 line, bare copper wire with no core. (See tap joint point with frayed wire ends, on coils , where wire connection was done to ground with resistor, so as electromagnet is always on, creating magnetic field that travels to spark plug tips.) The engine timing is adjustable during starter use, by adjusting the center core of inductance- one of my improvements. The two Youtube S1R9A9M9 videos of Briggs 18HP engine running - idling- on mineral water in carb, from 2008, is available for viewing and storing on computer.
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  • russwr
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    A quick bench test was done to test the old document regarding the S1R triple coils assembly. A neon bulb NE-2 was placed across the 2 end insulated wires to test for 100 volts coming from the bare copper wire under the S1R coils. The bulb did light up when the ignition was fired to spark plug. I had read way earlier that others had grasped the 2 wires and had gotten shocked.

    The old documents also said that about 100 volts and 6-7 amps WAS REQUIRED- through the spark plug for the mineral water conversion of an engine. The other document was called the "60 turns coil test". 60 turns insulated wire over plug cables used to assist the 6-7 amps to spark plugs. Not tested as yet. A bench test could be done without an engine first. 2 spark plugs bench mounted as 1st to fire with ignition only. This gets the required magnetic field for the Briggs mower engine timing change and the cylinder process. The 2nd plug gets the amps , the low voltage, and the needed minimum 100 volts. There are 8 methods to do this, but the one done in 2008 was not exact talked about. The plastic tub mounted on the side of the Briggs engine of the 2 Youtube videos, was to hold the majority of added parts. To get 15 amps or higher output, a bridge rectifier would have to be used with the alternator. That type of rectification is not pulsing DC as with one diode. Pulsing DC can run a hand wound step up voltage autotransformer. Magnet wire wound on outside of the Magnetron could also generate the 100v as another secondary winding with diode. AN inductor 1.75 Millihenry was included and may have provided a back EMF of over 100v. This would be SUPERIMPOSED over the low 12-35volts DC. The same ground is used. The spark plug small electrodes IS THE WATER electrolysis cell. Untested as yet for bubbling action gases evolved. Water vapor pressure also contributed to piston compression.

    For example, flashlight battery 1.5v turns on light of 1.5v bulb. When 2nd battery 1.5v is added in series, the bulb is twice as bright because of the 3 volts total. Therefore, if the engine conversion power supply 12-36v DC is in series with the safety diode + insulated wires turns from the triple S1R9A9M9 coils, the total voltage to spark plug is approximately greater or equal to 140 volts DC. DC is required to make hydrogen fuel from water. The tiny plug tips in combustion chamber need way higher voltage to get FASTER Hydrogen gas generated. The salt water droplets from eye dropper added to plug tips on bench test, forms ohms resistance electrical load electrolysis cell that reduces the first preset 6 amps on current gauge, down to .1amp. Therefore, much higher voltage is required to get the same 6-7 amps ,-----------JUST AS THEY SAID MANY TIMES IN THE WEB FORUM!!

    Many years back, there were 2 other people confirming their wiring conversion DID operate their engine on water in carburetor at idle speed. The running engines on mineral water in carburetors was the successful 3 Georgia technicians' shop work done 2005-2012, and written up in the now closed web forum.
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  • russwr
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    I recently rebuilt the S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly using a stronger copper #10 gauge wire, as the spiral frame that holds the 90 degree insulated windings. This electromagnet is an unusual hand wind, and was used in conjunction with the demonstration test of Briggs 18HP mower engine on mineral water only in 2008. (See also photo of the similar -S1R9A9M9 Megatran The magnetic field in the combustion chamber comes from the bare wire having magnetic induction. The 6-7-10 amps comes from battery as start, then the alternator was actually running the show with bridge rectifier added. The set up must adhere to several purposes. Magnetic field to spark plug, retarded timing by means of magnetic field, battery current flows THROUGH spark plug, and influence of 90 degrees wind that adds interference to the high voltage attempting to back up to the battery as safety hazard. (They didn't use at the time, a one way protection diodes bank.) I estimated hydrogen fuel spark plug electrolysis and water vapor pressure generated from 10 A + 4.5 Amp from the alternator maximum output of 14.5 amps full wave DC. No voltage regulator for idle RPM. The electromagnet was to be always ON. The main power amps was no more than 34% duty cycle. This 2008 Youtube demonstration was the replacement for not using the non available obsolete dual coil relays and DC to AC inverter box. Power circuit resistance is required to not have shorting, and after careful research, the same cars circuit was most likely included as - diode, coil, diode, coil, diode, parallel diode, to spark plug. This allows for actual ohms as required and also possible Radiant Energy as in my prior notes. My design includes the same exact inductors values as was done in Georgia of 2005-2012 as 60 cycles resonant, as with the 60 cycles Inverter half wave DC used. I need a short reply, so as I know someone is also following this data.

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  • russwr
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    Now working on correcting the (2) inductors so as similar to the two contained in the original dual coil relays as used in Georgia 2005-2012. Data as .66 ohm, 1.75Millihenry,( 60 cycles AC traffic signal switching relay) and #18 gauge wire to carry 6-7 amps DC. The Dayton brand type as 8 millihenry, from Parts Express will change to 1.75millihenry with a #10-;24 steel screw 2 1/2" long, in center + 2 washers, nuts. No cutting of existing magnet wire. ( center laminations removed out) This can then give possible resonance at 60 cycles to 60 cycles half-wave DC from Inverter box input power.

    Next level is bench test to obtain coil L back EMF of minimum 100 volts to add forward to spark plug firing the 6 amps at about 34v DC. The S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly also gives leakage inductance 100v from high volts side to low volts side and flashes neon bulb. This voltage was mentioned in the original web forum. They said power required was 100 volts and 6-7 amps through zero ohms spark plug with mineral water. (superimposed 100v) Stainless steel spark plug marine type has about 27 ohms, internal coil as yet to be removed from top screw cap, and replaced with #12 copper wire piece. (Champion brand plugs come apart at top.) The higher voltage makes faster hydrogen generated at tiny electrodes of the spark plug. Stainless steel spark plug marine type has about 27 ohms, internal coil as yet to be removed from top screw cap, and replaced with #12 copper wire piece. (Champion brand plugs come apart at top.) The higher voltage makes faster hydrogen generated at tiny electrodes of the spark plug. Regular hydrogen/ water cells have large surface area SS plates, but at very low volts of common electrolysis.
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  • russwr
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    In 2005-2008 S1R9A9M9+ the 2 technicians in Georgia successfully converted the Briggs lawnmower engine to run on water. (water vapor pressure + hydrogen gas from spark plug electrolysis) His 1978 Chevy V8 converted was on 18MPG water only before the water in gas tank was rebuilt as steel box collecting the Nitrogen embedded water exhaust for reuse. This then went to way higher gas mileage and smoothed out the engine running. The special, rare relays they used can't be purchased as discontinued traffic signal lights electromagnetic switching type relay in pole boxes, so as a separate Electromagnet was hand built to be used with inductors and diodes for same effect. (On cars and lawnmower) The Dayton brand inductors 1.5 Millihenry at #18gauge magnet wire on plastic insulated bobbin can be purchased from Parts Express and must be used with fast recovery diodes capable of 6 amps such as FR607. I had an Email message back + forth, years back, from a man who had duplicated Nathren's set up with inductor and special wound S1R9A9M9 electromagnet. I had asked specific questions, but he only replied carefully as - "YOU WILL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED"

    The auto and mower engines were said to start and run as is, at lower idle speed only. If power mode is desired, the main jet in carbs have to be redrilled out 33% larger hole to get more water to pass, and get more Hydrogen + water vapor pressure generated. The cars had adjustable distributor timing. The Briggs engines require electromagnet field and / or special curved, slotted, non-magnetic aluminum plate mounted for sliding adjustable timing of Ignition Magnetron. (too much trouble to make just for 2 YouTube videos, summer 2008.

    Many times in the web forum, it said 100 volts and 6-7 amps necessary. I thought it was a misprint. 5 times?? Maybe it was a reference to the 400W inverter box for 110v ac that was changed to half-wave DC. There was no explanation. However, we do know about back EMF and flyback voltage . The reverse polarity push and current from a wire inductor has to pass THROUGH a diode ANODE. I then looked up the actual circuit used on all those car engines in Georgia. There is an outside parallel diode across the 2 inductors. I had originally also thought that the diode was added to sabotage any future duplication of engine circuit, (paid informer) The main power would just go through the outside diode , passing by the inductors and center diode. However, that may probably be a SECOND PULSE forward. The high volts has to go in exactly at the cathode of the center diode between the inductors. The reversed polarity on the inductor pushes plus - Back EMF, and may go through the parallel diode and on to the spark plug .

    Maybe we can get 100 volts going forward through spark plug from inductor? That requires extreme fast turn off pulse. Formula E = L X di /dt Volts-Henry-amps-second. The spark is fast and the trigger transistor inside magnetron is fast.

    There were also several statements regarding The S1R9A9M9 triple coils assy that in operation with ignition, there is a leakage inductance voltage transfer from high volts side to low volts side of about 140 volts. Could this have been utilized? The high line side was bare copper #12 wire. The low V side over steel core electromagnet from 12v battery was #14 insulated hook up wire. There were also 2 fools who had grabbed a hold of their #14 wires and shocked themselves. A pre-designed in Superimposed higher volts over lower volts? The other problem was the Briggs is normally negative high volts ignition out , the side induction leakage was minus 140 volts and the battery was positive 12v . The positive is needed to run the starter motor with casting engine as negative ground! What'sup with that? It is very easy to change original one cable negative magnetron to a "dual" cables Briggs Magnetron and put one to ground, and get positive high volts from the other cable. That's what I have, so there is no interference.

    The full wattage is not drawn from the Inverter or battery, because the flywheel going around mower engine only fires spark-plug as aboiut 34 % duty cycle with electromagnet.

    Something was going on back then. Nathren was hassled by thugs on the road with guns, harassed, and property oil tank had bullet holes, He had legal problems also, and was jailed for a time. Neighbors moved away, wife divorced him and address in Georgia no good any more. (water for fuel?)
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  • russwr
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    Now looking into part numbers for stainless steel (marine) spark plugs for small engines. The Champion Brand sometimes has a removable top, so as the resistor or wire coil suppressor can be removed, and replaced with copper segment wire. A zero ohms spark plug is needed, that does not rust and add ohms resistance to the series current passing through it. The normal steel type tips corrode and reduce efficiency with mineral water added. The negative ground tip extension is preventing current flow on the meter. Baking soda water with eye dropper will be bench tested for use with SS plug. Nathren from Georgia, (S1R9A9M9) used mineral water gathered from stream on the property and was used on all previous engine conversions 2005-2012.

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  • russwr
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    In Georgia 2005-20012, three technicians ran car engines on MINERAL water in carbs 6-7 amps electrolysis from half-wave DC of 400W inverter and inductor coils, diodes, etc. The zero ohms spark plug passes electrolysis 6 amps using higher voltage inductive ignition. 4 cylinder tractor, (2) V8 Chevy engines, 6 cylinder vehicle, 4 cylinder Pinto, and On YouTube video for 2008 a Briggs 18HP mower engine running idle on water only. There was an electromagnet forming field 4.5A over plug wire, and the necessary field carries on to the combustion chamber. The lawn mower battery was disconnected after starting. The under flywheel Alternator magnets powered the Briggs at 15 amps max with bridge rectifier. See S1R9A9M9 mower engine running on water. The generation of Hydrogen and firing, and production of water vapor pressure both ran the engines. This was their discovery. All have accessory spark gap and insures final gap fires. E.G.R has to be applied to get the added Nitrogen embedded in the expelled water from compression. Working on bench set up to duplicate. 1978 El Camino 18MPG at much lowered power. Mower engine easier to work with. (The increased efficiency may have to do with Radiant Energy expelled from series line diode when POSITIVE High V enters exactly after cathode. The ON diode shuts off, the High V presses there, then reverses to fire the spark plug. R E follows to spark plug tips as the inductors and diode were IN VACUUM CHAMBER) So now you know!

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  • russwr
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    Updates - notes not given before, - for those following this project. The S1R9A9M9 triple wires assembly was an ELECTROMAGNET serving 2 purposes. The field over the spark plug wire causes the required extension of spark time from TDC to about -late 34 degrees timing. (Mower engines have no timing adjustments) This also provides the needed magnetic field at the plug tips in the combustion chamber. Spark AND CURRENT is on from power supply for about 34% duty cycle. Flywheel goes around until the next firing of 1-cylinder engine 66% off time. The electromagnet is 100% on at about 4.5 draw amps from battery, hooked through it to ground adjust resistor. The original 2008 demonstration used 10 amps through plug. The Georgia technicians that converted several cars and tractor, all used 6-7 amps. Therefore, the circuit now uses adjust 100W resistor for setting of 6 amps. Total battery draw from isolated power supply, including electromagnet and fans, is about a conservative 15 -20 amp fuse. The 2008 demonstration of 18HP Briggs was started with battery, battery disconnected, and engine ran on the under flywheel alternator. Alternator was maximum 15 amps with bridge rectifier, no v regulator. W = E X I. E /R =I. The 2 analog meters were replaced with single, dual digital E + I meter which registers faster than analog with needle, and much cheaper. Diode string protection of power supply done with 2 parallel FR607 fast diodes. 15 diodes is about 2 ohms loss and 10.5V drop loss. The diodes assembly is mounted vertical on top of horizontal .3A fan facing upward in plastic chute. (Heat removal). 500W Inverter used with single metal diode on heatsink for half wave rectification and about 35 volts pulsing DC. The differing ohms resistances in series with water cell spark plug needs to be configured for 6 amps. There was question about the low 6-15KV output of mower engine coil to satisfy the requirement of plasma path needed. The car engines has HEI much higher voltage which allowed the extra amps to pass through the spark plug. The earlier car conversions and Briggs 18HP all had included special relay per cylinder use. Took about 3 months to determine and build replacement in sealed vacuum box ACCESSORY spark gap with N+S magnets, inductor 1.5mh diode inductor 1.5mh and diode. The entrance of the high voltage is exactly at the cathode of the center ON diode. Diode shuts off, High v presses, returns back and onward to spark plug. This releases Tesla's radiant Energy from the diode that passes on down to spark plug, aided by vacuum. This notion is probably what was used causing a successful 2008 You tube S1R9A9M9 demonstration. They had converted a 4 cyl tractor to water in carb also which used the relays , Inverter , and existing ignition coil that was the same 15kv as the Briggs engine!!!!!! Therefore an extra plasma path source was not needed. The radiant energy expulsion takes the place of extra plasma path. I had recently made an assembly for a separate plasma path if needed with a 15KV coil , to allow 6 amps to pass.150W 220v dc converter charging 47uf 400v low esr capacitor through 60 ohm resistor to form time constant discharge with 120ohm resistor. T = R X C as 63% charge and discharge as plasma path with the 15KV. Main power supply also hooks in. The extra spark gap insures the final spark gap fires.The original Chevy V8 converted , had ignition coil in distributor cap changed primary wires around so that only positive high voltage was used. I am using a DUAL CABLES Briggs Magnetron- the modern type with universal epoxied trigger, - not a Briggs trigger. This one is not an autotransformer. The secondary wiring is not connected to the primary side. One cable goes to ground so that other cable is FULL POSITIVE high volts as used for the project. There is a one amp diode string 15kv for postive ignition coil. The 2 adjustable 100w power Ohmite brand resistors are mounted vertical. The Electromagnet is mounted vertical. The modified electromagnet has steel long screw with plastic pull head and inside vinyl tube so as can be pulled upward for timing adjustment of engine. Nathren only said to adjust the number of lower turns. 7 turns 90 degree wind upper, with lower (HIS) 13 turns now 30 turns, 14 gauge wire .The upper has no core on 7t. Pulling upward removes the core so as less magnetic field over 30t and HiV wire. Now you see how it's done. See Internet photo of S1R9A9M9 coils as (4) wire ends. Back then, mineral water from a property spring was used on all engine carburetors. Hydrogen gas is generated as spark plug electrolysis, fired and forming water vapor pressure along with the hydrogen. This was their invention back in 2005-2012. Website shut down but you can see again Nathren's 2008 2 Youtube videos of Mower engine running on water in carburetor. Questions??
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    The next detail to go over, is the question of WHY the 400Watt 60 cycles Inverter was not used on the 4 cycle Briggs mower engine , as it was on all the other 4 cycle engine conversions done in Georgia 2005-2012. In the S1R9A9M9 You tube videos , the same one is seen in the background, but plainly not connected. Nathren (the father) said it had a frequency to it that would cause it to bog down and shut off, so it was discontinued and changed to battery input power. . This Briggs engine during summer of 2008, had the same RELAY and a few other parts with S1R9 triple coils electromagnet. Electromagnet hooked to ground for field was not on the other larger car engines. I made up a list of possibilities as his statements on the matter did not make sense. My bench set up has the same brand inverter as 500watts AC as changed to half wave DC pulsing output, AS WAS ON ALL EARLIER CONVERSIONS.. Please suggest other options to me different than my following list. The workshop 2 technicians did majority of electrical work on projects. Nathren was a NON TECHNICAL person and just aided the 2 actual electrical commercial technicians. After a period of time went by, Nathren took out the mower engine and did the hook up himself in back yard and a helper. You can see the 2 successful idling on water demonstrations on You tube video as S1R9A9M9. The web forum didn't relate any other information on why original inverter could not be used. The use of an Inverter allows user to have ISOLATED output for the 2 grounds, because the secondary is not connected to the primary side.

    1.- He forgot or didn't know to add the 2 opposite diodes so as to get a much lower voltage to present to the final circuit. The relay was about 1.2 ohms used with mineral water against 110vAC? The helper may have been one of the technicians, but didn't notice the missing diodes. ( Nathren his son, one of the technicians , had the same name Nathren. The father signed the messages board as S1R9A9M9. The son signed his messages as Nathren)

    2.- The original spark plug of long reach 4000ohms was changed to QC12YC which is 125 ohms. The Champion brand can come apart to remove resistor to make a zero ohms racing plug. The 10 amps could then go through the CHANGED zero ohm plug with 12v battery, but 10 Amps only WITH A VERY HIGH >1000 VOLTS DC on 125ohm load plug.

    3.- He overloaded the inverter and the internal circuit breaker shut off ,and he thought it had burned out so they changed over to the battery.The new load electromagnet was not on the car engines, and that amps plus the amps from the plug firing drew more power from Inverter and it shut off from overload.

    4. The electromagnet would draw about 7-10 amps by itself through limiting resistor to ground, 100% duty cycle - maybe based on 12v DC. If AC was applied , then there would be a problem.

    The car battery then connected allowed the Briggs engine to run after starter motor engaged. Battery was soon disconnected and same engine continued to run with the "on board" alternator underneath the flywheel by the 12 spinning magnets. Why else didn't the 400watt inverter work?
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    Another update, for those who are following this project regarding the S1R conversion of lawn mower engine to water vapor pressure and hydrogen gas electrolysis. Today I successfully bench tested spark plug as receiving magnetic field from S1r9A9M9 triple coils electromagnet over copper transfer Plug Wire. The current passage of 6.5 amps was simulated with plug center grounded as representing the high volts as firing ,and that there would be conductive mineral water at plug tips. There was in between series connection between the electromagnet and spark plug, as diode, 1.5Mh coil L1 with series diode, and series L2 inductor, and final diode. There is a bypass diode going across this section. This set represents what was similar to the original "Magic Relays" as used in Georgia about 2005-2012 on cars. The magnetic compass adjacent to plug tips rotated smartly when battery was connected . The series adjustable power resistor was set for the amps as seen on analog panel meter. This PROVES the statements as seen listed 5 times in the original web forum. They said that a magnetic field is necessary and is THERE, except when ignition fires for the 34 degrees on time past TDC. . Inductors are Dayton brand from Parts Express with large type laminated steel core and #18 gauge magnet wire. The resistance is about .3ohm each. China on E bay sells smaller version with #21 gauge wire, higher resistance and same size as inside the original relays. Overseas shipping takes longer , but less costly. Electrical load is the L coils and power resistor as connected to 12V car battery, . The voltage drop diode losses .7v each also figures in the series circuit. I am assuming that the magnetism impressed under the electromagnet would be better if steel handy wire was used covered with shrink wrap tubing. The field may carry further.
    The (S1R) electromagnet hooks to ground through current limiting resistor and is always on. The diodes all turn on, with just small current flow due to the mineral water present at an engine, and both lines of coils, and the bypass diode facing spark plug. While waiting for the flywheel to go all around for the next ignition pulse on lawnmower engine, there is only low current flow. When high volts fires, the plasma path generated allows the full 6-7 amps to flow. That means , there are 2 power draws- 100% on electromagnet and plug current for 34% duty cycle, as ignition shuts off. The electromagnet and 1st coil field is stopped by the center diode shut off caused by high V entering just after cathode of center diode. The 2nd coil is used as part of the engine extension spark timing as well as the electromagnet over the plug wire. The side benefit is the Radiant Energy release from the diode back on again as the high V reverses and travels to spark plug. Upstream is the power supply pulsing DC going to series diodes protection bank from the high volts. There has to be a 1MM spark gap BEFORE the S1R coills electromagnet. This benefits the smoother engine running with less fouling. On the old cars, this was already there as the distributor rotor gap firing high volts. The total high volts divides up with the 2 spark gaps. (3KV/1mm)

    I also tested on analog panel meter for a change in current when the ignition side of S1R coils formed leakage inductance -130 volts onto the low volts side. There was no reading, I assumed that a small hand held oscilloscope would be needed for a very fast ignition pulse. What you do is purt a 1 ohm resistor on the ground side and read the voltage over it as per Ohms law formula. Volts reading equals current reading.
    Lawn mower ignition is about 6-16Kv. I have yet to test the hand wound step up pulse transformer to get 24KV for better plasma path. The car ignitions are already higher voltage . The web forum had changed the 1978 Chevy V8 ignition to positive high volts by switching the primary wires around. My mower ignition is now positive high volts by using the DUAL cable Magnetron. One negative line goes to ground. The RELAYS were used on the earlier car conversions as well as the mower engine. See (S1R9A9M9) Nathren's 2 You tube videos again.


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  • russwr
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    Humans never went to the moon. There is no such thing as Bigfoot. Stan Meyer Voltrolysis is not 3000% efficient making Ionized HHO. There are no more inventions - all has come to be many years ago. Dr. Hulda Clark therapy of certain herbs and mild electrotherapy is not a cure for cancer. Water cannot be made to expand and be a fuel for piston engine and be aided by small hydrogen gas same time, so as idling rpm is lower but still runs engine with lowered output power. No such thing as flying saucers UFOs. Free energy magnets motors never turn by themselves even with proper adjustments.



    Engineers take pride dusting off their certificate on wall plaque and only believe what was taught in the original physics text books, as they don't believe in "innovations" that follow up with U.S. Patents issued and vigorously defended in court. Naysayers never make attempts of researching technical references to prove another's statements.

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