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  • Faraday88
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    Originally posted by John_Koorn View Post
    Here is John Bedini's version of the circuit using opto-couplers:
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]532[/ATTACH]
    John K.
    ' Pulse Charging a Battery and driving other devices with a Pulse'
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.

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  • Jeffrey Joseph
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    Thanks John I'll Try this Happiness and joy Jeff

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  • Jeffrey Joseph
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    Batteries 1 and 2 drop very slowly while battery 3 stays the same and battery 4 goes up.
    Splitting the negative terminals on battery 1 and battery 4 and using 1n4007 diodes to the load.
    Next I will try splitting the negatives on the negative side, batteries 3 and 4 with diodes to the load.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXVMaWSXS0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfUKN9ABJ0U
    more data
    I have been splitting the neg. terminals between battery 1 and 4
    than I switch to neg terminals of battery 2 and 4; 1 goes down 2 goes up 3 goes up 4 goes down
    than I switch the load leads and battery 1 goes down 2goes down 3goes up 4 goes up
    so switching the leads to negative terminals around gets different battery charging results.
    also I have been running a load; small motor and light and other things to see what happens so a slow discharge is expected.
    I did notice when you use amp meter (don't leave it in after adjusting) on load and adjust the switch timing you can see a point where no current draws but the motor and light still run.
    another thing the leds don't need to be 12v. 12v leds take too much energy. The leds can change colors depending on where you power you load from.

    next I am going to run it with no load and see if the batteries will charge back up
    happiness and joy


    Last edited by Jeffrey Joseph; Today at 12:19 AM. Reason: time going by
    Last edited by Jeffrey Joseph; 11-20-2015, 01:12 AM.

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  • James_Somewhere_In_Idaho
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    Hi Jeffery

    Do you rotate the batteries, as per JB's diagram?

    James, somewhere in Idaho

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  • Jeffrey Joseph
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    Batteries 1 and 2 drop very slowly while battery 3 stays the same and battery 4 goes up.
    Splitting the negative terminals on battery 1 and battery 4 and using 1n4007 diodes to the load.
    Next I will try splitting the negatives on the negative side, batteries 3 and 4 with diodes to the load.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXVMaWSXS0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfUKN9ABJ0U
    more data
    Last edited by Jeffrey Joseph; 11-06-2015, 01:19 AM. Reason: time going by

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  • James_Somewhere_In_Idaho
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    Hi Jeffrey

    Have they been gaining in level of charge? Maintaining? Dropping?

    You may be interested in what we are doing over here:

    http://www.energyscienceforum.com/showthread.php?t=3243

    Please keep us informed.

    James, somewhere in Idaho

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  • Jeffrey Joseph
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP5tWIEosg
    Been switching over a month
    all batteries originally pulse charged to 14.7

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  • Nityesh Schnaderbeck
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    I have also been building some telsa switches too.





    After watching the new DVD part 38 "The Bedini Tesla Switch" I have been using the wrong diodes and the wrong opto-isolators. The diode I was using was UF5408 and need to use SB570 diodes. Also the battery holders add unwanted impedance's, need to solder the wires on the batteries without destroying them.

    Also John wants us to use the H11D1 opto-isolators and I have been using the H11G1 opto-isolators. Big difference between them.



    I very highly recommend you buy this DVD part 38 "The Bedini Tesla Switch" I very enjoyed watching it. John Bedini's electronics tutorial is very very good.

    Thankyou John Bedini for your most excellent DVD

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  • Patrikas
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    Lman thanx for the heads up.....i ordered a copy at 10 pm here this evening and got an email back half an hour later saying it had been shipped dont know whats giong on there but just thought id let u know cheers

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  • Lman
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    Just checked the energyfromthevacuum site I can't believe my eyes. Quietly a new DVD appeared ;-)

    http://energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc3...slaSwitch.html


    Lman

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  • Volty
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    Why "These" Transistors That Turn Off So Slow? MJL21194 & DB243 for SG / Tesla Switch

    Hi John,

    Regarding your Post #6 here in Tesla Switch of John Bedini's circuit for the single battery + 2 Cap's unit; see attached scope shots. These tranis are not great, either one, driven this way. Am I wrong? Please reply.

    I tested JB's circuit and found the only thing the Cap between Darlington oriented H11D1 internal Trani & either MJL21194 or BD243 is to de-couple waves off the Gnd, coming from the fluorescent desk light above my circuit. The diode does nothing either. So why would John Bedini himself put this 'stuff' out there? He is not even the ones selling books, so I cannot understand. I tried ~20Hz & 236Hz with 45% down to ~ 5% duty-cycle. The reason for the slow turn-off is the transistors being driven with the H11D1. The H11D1 can drive a resistor just fine, and that is about all. Not suited for BEMF applications. Am I wrong?

    Please save me some time with all your experience doing these things. After a year running Mono-SG's, SS & rotored, I never once looked at these two trani types driving just a resistor Vs. a highly capacitive trani like either of these. How can this be? I wrote Tom Childs a while back and remarked how the 1N4007 Diodes conduct in reverse above 17 KHz, and so were not suitable for solid state operation above the annoying audible frequencies. Now I am churning inside having just purchased and carefully matched 130 MJL21194's, and now I am wondering if this is another TPU Rabbit Hole? Why would a BEMF system mute the critical turn-off by using these devices arranged in "This" way?

    Am I going to have to go buy 130 MJL21193 PNP's to force the MJL21194's to shut-off fast to actually really charge both batteries? Is that the BIG secret I must buy 17 books to learn? I would rather die.

    John Bedini says in a past conference video speaking about how his 10-Coiler charges both stating "The problem is, everyone wants to change it". . . OK, so maybe the slow diodes and slow trani's must be used so that they will be slow enough to leak some radiant in before pinching off, as in Peter's Plasma Ignition explanation? But this is the Tesla Switch, where mechanically "Fast" turn-off is 10X more important than fast turn-on. Double-Diddilly-Doh! :-(

    I read John Bedini telling someone how critical it was to be sure to use "Exact 50% duty-cycle", yet Matthew Jones stating "Off-time is required to get the effect", and "I use less than 50% duty-cycle so the Caps do not short out. I tried and yes 50% DC not only shorts the Caps together instead of to battery, the Turn-Off Time of the H11D1 virtually guarantees shorted Caps if 50% were really used in a Tesla Switch.

    Has anyone ever made solid state switching fast enough to work for a Tesla Switch? Is this why the Cigar Box NiCad & Relays unit used relays, because if so, I have been working on a Ring-Counter-Gattling-Relay scheme to enable higher frequency operation.


    Originally posted by John_Koorn View Post
    Here is John Bedini's version of the circuit using opto-couplers:
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]532[/ATTACH]
    John K.
    Attached Files

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  • Volty
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    Originally posted by John_Koorn View Post
    Here is John Bedini's version of the circuit using opto-couplers:
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]532[/ATTACH]
    John K.
    Hi John,
    I have made the John Bedini 'Radio Interview One-Battery + Two Capacitors Tesla Switch' using SG3524 to H11D1 to DB243 to two paralleled IRPF250's x3 locations . It is soldered on prototyping board 2 x 3 " wired pad to pad with good Gnd and power distribution. I get 10 uS t-rise & t-fall from 3524, but 30X that for t-fall at about 0.3mS out of H11D1 & BD243 to the FET's, with usual 220 Ohms to Gates and 10K to Gnd so they won't stick on. Not from over-driven LED inside H11D1. My SG3524 is using 330 Ohm R-collector resistors.

    I was looking hard in the Forum for a solution to the slow turn-off, then I saw this video here at 5:01 of 9:50 it says that the Darlington configuration needs R2 (between Q1 Emitter and Q2 Base "...so that it can turn Off the second transistor really fast". -->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsIn3vFUyY Interfacing Microcontrollers: Darlington Transistors. The H11D1 to BD243 is Darlington-like, in a photo kind of way,and the turn off speed is terrible. Back EMF is muted this way.

    Now I see your post #6 here in TESLA SWITCH, of JB's use with MJL21194's Vs. IRFP250's like the Op-Amp Cap Dump uses. How does the Diode and Cap in parallel improve operation while I wait for parts to try this? Can the Darlington-style resistors even be used with an Opto-driven Q1?

    With nothing between H11D1 and BD243, the maybe too high Gain seems to amplify the lower regions where turn-off is very slopey, making the effect much worse at the BD243's Emitter. It seems if the BD243 was just biased to just peak above the FET Threshold Voltage, things would be better.

    I read all over Matthew Jones postings excerpts circa ~ 2007 at Tuks, wishing luck to solid state people, and that only his mechanical switching works for him, Benitz-style I read him saying, via hard Cap Slapping or some such. I made a separate SG3524 and left the FET's off with exit terminals for the BD243's to drive another small 20A Relay Card. I just wanted to make it to get real fast mechanical switching tried, knowing it eats relays like candy, but I have to Rotor, no car-hole, no garage, no real space like most would have. Just my desk with small batteries MJ hates, and room for some BIG batteries. Thank you in advance for your advice.

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  • momoze
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    Aram ;

    I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina, and I am very interest for making any SSG . My question is , Can You send to me any sheme who 100 % working properly. I am sure that will work very good .

    Regards

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  • brodonh
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    fathershand,
    I believe in the Way, the Truth, and the Life also.
    I have no other life.
    bro d

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  • Aram
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    In reply to fathershand from 01-05-2013, 09:57 PM

    I haven't had time to play recently, plus it's bloody cold in my garage.

    The purpose for taking apart the transformer is to adjust the output voltage to a useable level. I've actually done a couple of them with varying levels of success. You can use a stock transformer, just be aware that the voltage output of a 120 V - 12 v transformer will be fairly high. I've found that putting a load on it tends to drop it really fast, probably because not saturating the magnetic field properly (if that's even the correct way to say it), so kinda like a very weak battery, if you load it, the effective voltage drops like a rock. Just don't blow up your lightbulb or whatever when you first connect it.

    I don't have part 2 of the PDF. The link to the Benitez patents is the direction he was going though. In my opinion it's all about the transformer, and the multiplicitive effect it has, especially if you are not actually USING the power you pass through it but simply TRANSFERRING it from one place to another. And then on top of that if you can get the flyback spike and time things to utilize that as well, then you're really going to see something interesting. My guess is that the last part is probably the most difficult because it will depend on a huge number of factors, so any timing would be unique to your setup, probably to the temperature, and the phase of the moon too.

    I setup a 1 battery 2 capacitor setup and ran it a bit, but found the voltage potential seen by the transformer was only about 2 V, and the capacitors which theoretically should have each dropped to about 6-7 volts when put in parallel, only dropped to maybe 10-11 volts, unless i increased the switching time a lot, and then it cooked my transistors, AND the output at the transformer actually dropped.

    The next thing I want to try is putting at least two, maybe even three batteries in series as the "one" battery in this setup. You lose 1.4 volts in switching (.7 when you charge the caps, and .7 when you discharge), and a little in resistance, so increasing the primary voltage drops the percentage of loss in relation. The caps I have will handle up to 50 volts I think, so they won't care if they get charged up to 24 or 36 volts. And the transistors are rated for like 600 V, so they won't care either. I have a good feeling about this idea. And I probably shouldn't be telling you guys this. . cuz I won't be able to test this for a while lol, but what the heck. If anybody gets it working, let me know please.

    It's very frusterating, I believe this venue has a lot of potential, and from even the fairly short time I've been playing around with it, I think great things are possible. BUT I just don't have the time, if I spend an hour in the garage experimenting, the kid tears the house apart, and I spend another hour cleaning up the mess. Will be better in warmer weather when I can lock him outside. . . lol
    Last edited by Aram; 01-24-2013, 12:35 PM.

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