John Bedini's Magnetic Model

[Aaron Murakami]

Was going to add schematic and further testing... apparently can't add without having thread followed loaded with garbage so I'll try back another time. cheers - P.

Hope to see more - almost nobody has ever tried to replicate the glass case motor in any variation.

[Aaron Murakami]

Hi Aaron,
I see Two ways of Producing a net Magnetic Field in the solenoids: 1) Parallel wind but opposite direction (Bifilar) on same core but series adding 2) Parallel connection of Separated Bifilar coils.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

I haven't seen a difference using those methods that I've tried in the past.

[min2oly]

Was going to add schematic and further testing... apparently can't add without having thread followed loaded with garbage so I'll try back another time. cheers - P.

[Faraday88]

Hi Aaron,
How does this imply to Tesla's Zero-current coil geometry..???we know that a Magnetic Field does not require conduction current to maintain it and this would at a glance violet the Ampere's Law. like in a Bar magnet dipole one would wonder to look for the Çonduction current for the corresponding Magnetic Field, the answer lies in the Bloch wall i guess...
Rgds,
Faraday88.

Hi Aaron,
I see Two ways of Producing a net Magnetic Field in the solenoids: 1) Parallel wind but opposite direction (Bifilar) on same core but series adding 2) Parallel connection of Separated Bifilar coils.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

The Earth is tilted as it rotates around the Sun and this tilt is between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees - it takes about 40,000 years to complete that cycle. From a bird's eye view of the Earth over the North pole, if you had an axle going through the Earth through the poles, the end of the axle rotates on a wobble in a circle coinciding with this range of degrees of the tilt. Today this tilt is about 23.5 degrees.

This image shows perfectly what that wobble is but more importantly, shows the 23.5 degrees:



The diagonal line you see through the coils in John's diagram is representative of the Earth's tilt as it goes around the Sun. Please do not assume John is drawing everything to scale or at the correct angles.

This is a classic image that John has posted for years and you will notice the diagonal line through the coil - he has had that on many diagrams. That line is emblematic of the Earth's tilt. In older drawings of John's (probably none are online), he always had that line drawn through the Earth in diagrams showing the Earth going around the Sun with the same 0 on both ends of the line representing a null or no net force. You could call the Zero Force Motor for example, the Equator Motor, because that it exactly what it is and it is in fact a microcosmic representation of the magnetic interaction between the Earth and Sun.



For practical purposes, we're obviously not going to be building an SG for example where the coil is tilted 23.5 degrees. It's already tilted because of the Earth, relative to the Sun. The Sun is tilted about 7 degrees, but I do not know if that was considered in John's work. Today, the tilt of the sun is thought to be caused by the 9th planet ("Pluto's killer") because it is so massive, etc.

If this is an intrinsic property of magnetism, then it applies universally. John never claimed that, but it is a model for what is happening on this Earth and that is what we have to work with.

If you have a wheel with 8 magnets around it, they're at every 45 degrees. That is 360 / 8 = 45. Then where does the "scalar south" exist if all North magnets are facing out? They squeeze out at 22.5 degrees, which is exactly half way between the middle of any two magnets around the wheel John labels it at 23, but it is not 23, that is rounding it off. Or I should say at what degree if the magnet is top dead center over the coil does the closest "scalar south" exit the wheel to interact with the coil? 22.5 degrees. It's right there in the diagram. What is the average between the Earth's tilt 23.5 and 22.5 on the wheel? 23 degrees.

The 16 magnet configuration doesn't actually conform to the 8 magnet degree system - it would be halved.

If you take 360 degrees and divide that by 22.5 degrees, you get 15.3 and where the number 16 comes from is simply rounding up or just doubling the 8 magnet example - nothing magical. 16 actually equals the magnet and "Scalar South" points and not 16 magnets around a wheel - it is the magnet and spaces between the magnets. But obviously it is proportional and if you have 16 magnets and 32 total points, obviously the scalar will interact with the coil no matter what because of its proximity whether it is 22.5 or 11.25 degrees.

It is right there in the diagram and can be deduced from it - what I am not guessing at is that the diagonal is representative of the Earth's tilt, that is a fact and that is what was behind John's diagrams showing that diagonal line through the coils.

More to come...

Hi Aaron,
This is second post to the same emphasis i pointed out to Tom C explanation on the Theory.. JB shows the null point as 'Phi' or zero..neutral point..this is the Bloch wall of the coil.
In the same diagram, as you rightly said the Interaction between the Coil's Magnetic Field and the Magnetic field of the 'SUN' in this case the Rotor's Magnetic Field are shown by JB.
The essence of the interaction is between the Rotor's Electrical conductance and the Bloch wall's Dielectrivity that is what the scalar interaction is.
In the DVD also JB is always seen drwaing the Bloch wall in a slant fashion followed by a 'Phi'. This slant is indicatively 22.5 or 23 degee i guess..
I am also of the opinion that the N-face of the Monopole magnet is oriented in three different ways (i have pointed this out in my previous post in the thread) and essentially interacting with three coils(the coil orientations are also alternatively flipped) simultaneously such that it makes the Bloch wall of the magnets and the coils mutually 'Transperant' to each other.
What every one is missing here is the SUN's material property represented by the rotor. I also see a clue to one of your recent demonstration in the 2017 conference.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[Faraday88]

when you see John draw his monopole wheel, he often draws the lines of force interacting with each other (dave has uploaded one of them above) now imagine those lines of force traveling between the poles of the earth and the sun.

The universe is electric.

the gas model of the sun is wrong in so many ways, the surface of the sun is calcium ferrite and iron composite.

https://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com

there is a movie called thunderbolts of the gods, and another one called the electric universe, both do a good job of explaining the electric model

NASA has found magnetic ribbons connecting the sun and the earth

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes

it connects the entire universe

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-s-ibex-observations-pin-down-interstellar-magnetic-field

and another

http://www.space.com/24692-mysterious-energy-ribbon-solar-system.html

everything in the universe is electromagnetic, it all operates at frequency....

The masons understood this, so did leedskalnin.

Tom C

Hi Tom C,

Its been a while that i've been pondering about the relevance between the SUN as the center(rotor) and the The EARTH as the peripheral(rotor edge) Magnets of the Bedini wheel.the Bloch wall represented in slant lines are indicative to this 23degree tilt as well.
The SUN being the SUPERCONDUCTING BULK! and the Earth Magnetic Field'sBloch as the Dielectrum.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

[min2oly]

Another slo-mo vid this time using a coil rather than the cap:

frame rate on this was 240fps we almost can't see the led delay when a coil is used instead of a cap. I think the coil needs more turns as JB's had 900 (mine only has about 350).

The energy is going from
1. AA battery switched with reed on negative side
2. energy goes to main power coil as per usual
3. energy is rectified via 2 LED's
4. then onto the secondary coil
5. secondary coil uses magamp effect to boost the energy
6. then sends it back to the battery through the second set of 2 LED's

NOTE this scope is across the SECOND coil and LED's. Also, I am not showing optimal timing.

It's pretty easy to go from the reed switch to using a transistor and control much quicker speeds. So far my best efficiency is using a reed. This coil is aluminum and produces the biggest spikes.

I've done this using the Bedini-Cole ckt the rotor speeds up very nicely when you add the second coil... you can literally hold the second coil in your hand while running, bring it closer to the rotor to witness increased speed.

One more thing you can do to increase speed even more is to place a very small cap across the coil - you must match the cap to the coil. This is basically what I demo and provided ckt for a year ago only at the time I did not show the energy going back to the main battery as I do here.
Cheers - Patrick

[min2oly]

JB's Window Ball Motor

300+ volts - notice the pre-spike :-) might be more visible in the vid... next post

[min2oly]

I look forward to hearing about your efforts.

I re-watched and must have misunderstood him the first time, he is talking about 4 phases not 4 switchings.

https://youtu.be/xtGz4QHJ0e4?t=1m17s

"you're seeing this phase, then this phase, then this phase, then this phase." He points to the LED's one at a time.

so somehow it would seem he is does have the genny coil feeding back into the system.
what we know:

1. two coils at 90 degrees
2. drive coil 2 winds/filer 900 turns smaller gauge
3. genny coil also 2 winds/filer 300 turns larger gauge
4. 4 LED's one for each "phase"
5. carbon graphite ball
6. aluminium cylinder with fan to show work adjust speed who knows what else.
7. Basic SSG circuit

I wonder if he is using a switching diode somehow to put the energy back to the source as the original simplified school girl circuit did?
-Patrick

Getting closer to understanding how he circulated the energy - Slow-mo video:

Notice the LED's are 2 in series - then in parallel reverse of one another. They are behaving just as JB's little Ball WM. What I'm doing with a cap he did with a 2nd coil adding even more energy to the party. Need to redesign for addition of second coil...
KR - Patrick

[Dave Wing]

Images of experimental devices from John's shop... 5

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[Dave Wing]

Images of experimental devices from John's shop... 4

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[Dave Wing]

Images of experimental devices from John's shop... 3

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[Dave Wing]

Images of experimental devices from John's shop... 2

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[Dave Wing]

Images of experimental devices from John's shop... taken from someone’s videos who’s name I will not mention.

Dave Wing

[Dave Wing]

Hey all,

I just scooped this image from a video tube user "Davy Oneness" video about John Bedini... It explains BEMF and the Spike are additive to each other, this is big news at least to me. Also I think John maybe referring to CEMF when he talks about BEMF in his rotor SG machines. Just so you know I am talking about CEMF, produced from rotored machines which is the counter force that opposes applied voltage, even though I use the term BEMF below. Sorry to confuse.

It is also very interesting when John shows splitting the positive, figure 7, in this diagram he compares it to the example of the in phase differential waveform of figure 6. Also notice the hand drawn scope shot showing the spike plus BEMF in figure 5. It can now be seen that when John mentions splitting the positive he can also be talking about BEMF and the Spike being additive and at a higher energy potential than the supply, or powering battery. Even in EFTV John shows Dave Clements the splitting the positive analogy and even the variablness in size of the wave forms that can be constructed using the splitting the positive scenerio. The Spike plus the BEMF is the key to the pulse driven SG machines ability to overpotentialize and charge the primary battery. The Beginners SG Handbook shows one pulse along one wire back to the primary battery, note there is no secondary battery at all, just a low voltage 9 volt battery powering the device.

All this is comparitive to how John, in unconventional fashion, viewed the typical DC generator waveform as talked about in the 1984 booklet that consisted of his 1984 motor / energizer. Now we can see the other half of the generator that John always said conventional electrical engineers left out of their generator designs. In the book Free Energy Generation how did John view the normal DC generator wave form? Was it the same way as figure 6 but with just the two opposing wave forms being equal in magnitude and in phase? Is the Bedini SG Energizer a full fledged model of a conventional DC generator plus what today's electrical engineers have left out?

If the SG fires at 23 degrees or in between the north magnets or at the scalar south... Which is or can be all the same thing then we have limited, which is next to no drag on the SG rotored machine.

I realize there are two different waveforms on this page (typical SG figure 8) and (BEMF + Spike, negative pulse figure 5) but there are also these same two different waveforms on John's zero force motor video when he inserts and or removes the iron tube from the core of the coil...

Dave Wing