Bedini Solar

[Coye]

After I read all that, I disconnected the SG from its run battery.
Thanks for the heads up.
- Coye

[BobZilla]

Hi Aaron,

Take a look at what was said I thought they understood my question but you be the judge. Starting on page 4 of this thread is where I asked the question.

http://www.energyscienceforum.com/sh...?t=1445&page=4

Most people do not think about the primary much but it does interact with the system and spikes, I am not talking about the backend. I was asking about a tracker to a charge battery and then running a wheel from that so basically the charge destination of the tracker is the source for the wheel and then you would have a charge destination on the back of the wheel. Basically so you could have it all hooked up and the SSG would run from panal provided juice in the day and reserve at night. Mr Bedini says no and to not have the tracker connected when running an SSG

Running an SSG as a load is far different from running a normal load like a fan or a radio, ever really looked at what is happening on that primary, a lot more than people seem to understand.


The issue I think is that the SSG will throw the impedance readings off on the tracker, anyway people can do what they want but I just wanted to mention that I had asked about this.

[Coye]

Personally, I would not advocate connecting anything but
a battery to the S3A12 output, if only because of the
way it is labeled.

Input from panel [ controller ] output to battery

should be ok.
- Coye

[Aaron Murakami]

We need to get that clarified. If the SG is actually connected to a battery that the tracker is connected to is that ok.

Maybe John thought you were trying to run the SG directly from the battery without a battery?

[Coye]

Thanks for the heads up.

There are no problems so far.

The run battery should receive the reverse spikes, I suppose?

But what would be the symptoms if the S3A12 should pick them up?

[BobZilla]

Coye,

Just a heads up I asked Mr. Bedini about running an SG from the output of the tracker and he said not to do it. The tracker will pick up on the back spikes to the primary and it messes with the logic in the circuit.

John K said he did it with his and did not have a problem but anyway I just wanted to mention it to you.

[Coye]

Yes, ( and thanks for viewing ) please remove the thumbnail at the bottom. It
is the one I was trying to delete. I want to post another pic in its place.

Thanks
- Coye

[Aaron Murakami]

Thanks for sharing that!

Do you still need a pic removed from the first post? If so, which one? You should be able to edit it yourself.

[Coye]

Battery A is now reading 12.73 vdc,
and Battery B is reading 11.77 vdc.

Battery A is moving to 12.74 vdc, and
Battery B is moving to 11.78 vdc.

see pics . . .





- Coye

[Coye]

Update May 10 2014 Saturday

The solar panel inputs to the S3A12;
The S3A12 outputs to battery A, and maintains it at
not less than 12.70 vdc under load to the SG;
The SG outputs to battery B, and battery B receives an increased charge, by voltmeter.

Pictures follow.
- Coye









Help? I need to delete one pic then insert another. Also remove the thumbnail.

[Tom C]

how is the trigger circuit driven? if its done by a standard trigger wire, then change it to a hall with a full bipolar circuit.
Tom C

[Coye]

In a word, yes. I am happy about it, and
as somebody said, I might take another dozen
just like it. To which I add, agreed, raises the question of exact identity as key to its best potential as a true asset.

What ever it is, it works good, doesn't make a racket or vibrate; ace A #1 workmanship IMHO.

Please tell me more; can this machine be modified to run any faster?
How do you suppose?

Will be back in about 2 hours. Thanks.
Interesting video.

- Coye

[Tom C]

you bought that frame and coil from R charge? was it recent? JB had nothing to do with that machine if it was from the R charge website. so just to clear the air here, a true window motor is a hall switched full bipolar circuit driven device, used as a prime mover to drive loads. can it run in SG mode of course. can you switch an SG circuit with a Hall, yes you can, can it be switched with a trigger winding, yes, or even a reed switch or a mag switch. yes there is a DVD version of the one you have that JB ran, it was just a test bed as most of his work is.

this is a window motor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOWLWe9HEMw

this is why I was wondering what you were running, and what circuit was driving it. that machine was squeeling because the coil was in self oscillation because of resistance values, its not supposed to do it as a rule.

If JB wants to chime in here he can, I do not have his ear on a daily basis.

Tom C

[Coye]

"Is it running like an SG?"
My best answer would have been, not necessarily,
or even worse, it depends. Yet at the same time,
and quite generally, maybe yes. Offer him an
opportunity to clarify if whether the way
it runs is 'like' an 'SG'. Which answer is the correct
one in this specific instance. And offer the kind
hint that it does not squeal while running, like the
one in the DVD. Then put that in front of him
and see what he says.

I need a better camera for this sort of thing, admittedly.

What caught my eye was the size of those resistors --
red black red is 2000, and I looked twice at them
to be sure. But that is indeed a great big coil, and the machine
runs good. The shipping weight was 30 pounds (but free
of cost). For all I know this one was built by JB himself,
or under his supervision. There were no papers that
came with it -- just the machine. I needed it for my
lab as a standard.

- Coye

[Tom C]

so 3 really blurry pics you are running as an SG..... what you have is an SG style circuit running in a window coil, the way a coil works one half needs the north one half the south to run correctly......which is how you have it configured. not a window motor.... you have an SG charging a battery running an SG....

you cannot run a solar panel without blocking diodes. the large solar panels expect you to have them in the inverter or charge controller. the small ones SOMETIMES have them built in but not often. of course the panel must be sized for the load, so you are right that big panel outside would have waay to much current. I have however run my SG off a small 15 watt solar panel and a cap in parallel. so I know it can be done. John K has also done it successfully.

and which question are you referring to?

Tom C