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  1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Hi Hellenic Vanagon,



    Thanks

    I posted a video of my test circuit earlier in this thread that shows the plasma very well. I have the same set up installed in the Bradley. Here's a link to it. http://www.energyscienceforum.com/sh...ll=1#post28309
    I would've added the propane into the fogger via the intake fan, converting the apparatus into a flame thrower...but you probably have a better appreciation for your shop roof than I do

  2. #922
    Hi hsd,

    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    I would've added the propane into the fogger via the intake fan, converting the apparatus into a flame thrower...but you probably have a better appreciation for your shop roof than I do
    LOL

    Actually, I just wanted to see what adding an accelerant to the fog would do in the plasma. The fog totally disappears with the addition of the propane and produces a larger flame than just the propane does by itself. From that I concluded that the fog is combusted and adding energy to the process in the presence of the plasma. With a normal spark discharge, the fog will short out the plug.

    If you want to run an engine on mostly fog, you can add a small amount of accelerant (gasoline, alcohol, etc.) to the bucket (with proper treatment) and run the engine on 95% water and 5% fuel. See my post under the "H2 Global Water Fuel" thread here. http://www.energyscienceforum.com/sh...ll=1#post28211
    Last edited by Gary Hammond; 08-01-2018 at 08:45 AM. Reason: add info
    Gary Hammond,

  3. #923
    I think the water vapor causes the fuel molecules to stretch out on its surface, and that makes the hydrocarbons easier to burn. I'm thinking of oil streamers on a driveway after a rain, the rainbowy stuff...
    alcohol is entirely different: it's hydrophilic, bonding to the water molecules in the airstream (which might be one reason why they put ethanol in gasoline)

    Can you replicate the test apparatus in the videos, feeding the propane in as I suggested? I'd wager it would burn completely diffferently, being somewhat more homogenized with the water vapor. I'd wager further that it wouldn't take very much propane at all to get a column of flame at each plasma event (I'd slow the firing rate down to 100rpm or so, as well)...but only if you can do it outdoors. this would be something to see. or maybe you could bubble the propane into the water as it gets fog-ified? Hmmmm...
    Last edited by heysoundude; 08-01-2018 at 07:42 PM.

  4. #924
    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    .........Can you replicate the test apparatus in the videos, feeding the propane in as I suggested? I'd wager it would burn completely diffferently, being somewhat more homogenized with the water vapor. I'd wager further that it wouldn't take very much propane at all to get a column of flame at each plasma event (I'd slow the firing rate down to 100rpm or so, as well)...but only if you can do it outdoors. this would be something to see. or maybe you could bubble the propane into the water as it gets fog-ified? Hmmmm...
    Since propane is heavier than air, I'm not sure I want it collecting in the bucket. It just might prove out the "Big Bang Theory" when and if it ignites.
    Gary Hammond,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Since propane is heavier than air, I'm not sure I want it collecting in the bucket. It just might prove out the "Big Bang Theory" when and if it ignites.
    or disprove its original bases!!!
    just kidding
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  6. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Since propane is heavier than air, I'm not sure I want it collecting in the bucket. It just might prove out the "Big Bang Theory" when and if it ignites.
    It would be confirming or disproving a bonding with the water vapour though...
    If your guy is running engines on 5% gasoline and 95% water, all you'd need to do for this is to be able to measure the propane:water properly. you can measure how much water gets vapourized per hour; the trick will be to meter out the propane as accurately for a similar ratio. the more I ponder it, the better my bubbler thought seems to appear.

  7. #927
    Hi Soundude,

    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    .....................If your guy is running engines on 5% gasoline and 95% water.............
    There's no "IF" involved. He's doing it. I saw it with my own eyes! Not only is he running engines on 95% water, his process will run the engine on 100% water if plasma ignition is used. This process mimics what takes place in a thundercloud. Follow my other postings and links to learn more about this process.

    The 5% fuel is required only to start the combustion of the treated water vapor when conventional ignition is used. What I showed in the video is his generator running with the conventional ignition that came on it. The water is totally disassociated and restructured by his treatment process becoming a volatile mix inside the combustion chamber. You have to remember that air is also in the mix, so it is possible for many combustible compounds to form in the presence of the plasma thru a transmutation process.

    Whether the gasoline vapor and treated water vapor bond momentarily is not the point. Any accelerant can be used in the mix to initiate combustion with conventional ignition. I doubt that bonding is required, as the process is designed to BREAK the natural water bonds and disassociate the atomic structure of the water.

    If you want to make a propane bubbler blow torch with your own bucket go ahead and do it to check out your theory. The point of my experimentation is not to make a propane blow torch, as I already have a pretty robust one in the form of a weed burner.
    Gary Hammond,

  8. #928
    That's an ultrasonic fogger in the bottom of the bucket?

  9. #929
    Hey Soundude,

    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    That's an ultrasonic fogger in the bottom of the bucket?
    Yes it is.
    Gary Hammond,

  10. #930
    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    I don't think waste spark is as difficult to convert to plasma as people think, since the ECU is basically doing what the MSD CDI box was invented to do in the days of distributor cap/rotor anyways. (The cam and crank position sensors are what give ECUs information for spark, and they're probably much more accurate and reliable and less prone to drift out of "tune".)
    If the plasma "event" occurs because of the diode between the primary +ve and secondary +ve, and your ignition system has multiple primaries and secondaries, then you'll need multiple diodes placed appropriately (4 in your case, 3 for a v6 and 2 for a 4cyl).
    Further, you could need multiple capacitors (or consider voltage multipliers) across those multiple primaries....and for peaking capacitors, you might be able to place them across each pair of secondaries rather than on each plug.
    Heysoundude THANK YOU for the piece of information I needed normally I spend hours getting to know every nook and cranny of my cars once I get them. my 1st car was a 66 Impala and though I knew Chevy blocks from working on mercury stern drives as well as Volvo Penta since they both used Chevys, I did not think twice once my dad had 2 brand new 454's come back to his dealership as factory duds, and he chose to buy them DIRT CHEAP from the factory instead of sending them and rebuild them with his apprentice doing the work lol and sell them again. I begged and bartered and got him to agree to help me rebuild one for my Impala, and the original 327 would be rebuilt and put back once we were done. but till then id be able to have a 454 to brag a bit while I was in school but warned me 1 speeding ticket the car is His again, well while rebuilding the 454 i got caught speeding I did not think our agreement was until I put the 454 in but he said sorry you broke your trust with me, and I was put back on my 125 dual-purpose motorcycle and having to pack my dates, and if it rained cancel them again or use my dads pick up and to me at the time it was embarrassing. Then my 2nd car was a 77 Toyota Corona 2 door given to me by my neighbour when i returned from the Marines. and i noticed the grill and headlights were UGULY but the body had lines and curves i liked so i studied that cars manuals till I knew everything there was to know about a 20 and 22R motor as well as the cars Toyota used them in for parts reference and started to find like a Chevy the old Toyotas with automatic transmissions had 4.11 gears in the station wagon Corona models and the head from a 20R will mate with an 80-83 22R. and so swapped the 20R from my car to the 22R with my own modifications for performance, took my rear end out and installed a station wagon rear end in and converted my Corona to a standard with a Centerforce clutch. My next car was a 86 Mustang now I was back where I started sort of, I started learning that car and I learned a lot, but the big difference between my old 66 Impala and the Mustang was my uncle gave me a rock crusher gear box, the fox body mustangs borg warner T5 could barely handle a stock Mustang motor without 3rd gear falling out of the transmission. so after crushing the original transmission and blowing up a $1300 cobra model, I said im selling it it's not worth a down payment on a used car that would probably be more comfortable for my back anyway. and I got my Tbird but not even 1.5 years passed when I got my head injury. I stopped dreaming of building up the Tbird. before I got hurt I was studying the trans being it was the weak point of my Mustang when I had hurt my head I did not look at the ignition if it was a wasted spark system or not but you saved me the headache of having to buy 2 MSD boxes as far as I remember seeing in TCCOA they were running 2 MSD boxes for nothing really and now im retired and bored as hell its time to play again

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