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  1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Hi Hellenic Vanagon,



    Thanks

    I posted a video of my test circuit earlier in this thread that shows the plasma very well. I have the same set up installed in the Bradley. Here's a link to it. http://www.energyscienceforum.com/sh...ll=1#post28309
    I would've added the propane into the fogger via the intake fan, converting the apparatus into a flame thrower...but you probably have a better appreciation for your shop roof than I do

  2. #922
    Hi hsd,

    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    I would've added the propane into the fogger via the intake fan, converting the apparatus into a flame thrower...but you probably have a better appreciation for your shop roof than I do
    LOL

    Actually, I just wanted to see what adding an accelerant to the fog would do in the plasma. The fog totally disappears with the addition of the propane and produces a larger flame than just the propane does by itself. From that I concluded that the fog is combusted and adding energy to the process in the presence of the plasma. With a normal spark discharge, the fog will short out the plug.

    If you want to run an engine on mostly fog, you can add a small amount of accelerant (gasoline, alcohol, etc.) to the bucket (with proper treatment) and run the engine on 95% water and 5% fuel. See my post under the "H2 Global Water Fuel" thread here. http://www.energyscienceforum.com/sh...ll=1#post28211
    Last edited by Gary Hammond; 08-01-2018 at 08:45 AM. Reason: add info
    Gary Hammond,

  3. #923
    I think the water vapor causes the fuel molecules to stretch out on its surface, and that makes the hydrocarbons easier to burn. I'm thinking of oil streamers on a driveway after a rain, the rainbowy stuff...
    alcohol is entirely different: it's hydrophilic, bonding to the water molecules in the airstream (which might be one reason why they put ethanol in gasoline)

    Can you replicate the test apparatus in the videos, feeding the propane in as I suggested? I'd wager it would burn completely diffferently, being somewhat more homogenized with the water vapor. I'd wager further that it wouldn't take very much propane at all to get a column of flame at each plasma event (I'd slow the firing rate down to 100rpm or so, as well)...but only if you can do it outdoors. this would be something to see. or maybe you could bubble the propane into the water as it gets fog-ified? Hmmmm...
    Last edited by heysoundude; 08-01-2018 at 07:42 PM.

  4. #924
    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    .........Can you replicate the test apparatus in the videos, feeding the propane in as I suggested? I'd wager it would burn completely diffferently, being somewhat more homogenized with the water vapor. I'd wager further that it wouldn't take very much propane at all to get a column of flame at each plasma event (I'd slow the firing rate down to 100rpm or so, as well)...but only if you can do it outdoors. this would be something to see. or maybe you could bubble the propane into the water as it gets fog-ified? Hmmmm...
    Since propane is heavier than air, I'm not sure I want it collecting in the bucket. It just might prove out the "Big Bang Theory" when and if it ignites.
    Gary Hammond,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Since propane is heavier than air, I'm not sure I want it collecting in the bucket. It just might prove out the "Big Bang Theory" when and if it ignites.
    or disprove its original bases!!!
    just kidding
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  6. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Since propane is heavier than air, I'm not sure I want it collecting in the bucket. It just might prove out the "Big Bang Theory" when and if it ignites.
    It would be confirming or disproving a bonding with the water vapour though...
    If your guy is running engines on 5% gasoline and 95% water, all you'd need to do for this is to be able to measure the propane:water properly. you can measure how much water gets vapourized per hour; the trick will be to meter out the propane as accurately for a similar ratio. the more I ponder it, the better my bubbler thought seems to appear.

  7. #927
    Hi Soundude,

    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    .....................If your guy is running engines on 5% gasoline and 95% water.............
    There's no "IF" involved. He's doing it. I saw it with my own eyes! Not only is he running engines on 95% water, his process will run the engine on 100% water if plasma ignition is used. This process mimics what takes place in a thundercloud. Follow my other postings and links to learn more about this process.

    The 5% fuel is required only to start the combustion of the treated water vapor when conventional ignition is used. What I showed in the video is his generator running with the conventional ignition that came on it. The water is totally disassociated and restructured by his treatment process becoming a volatile mix inside the combustion chamber. You have to remember that air is also in the mix, so it is possible for many combustible compounds to form in the presence of the plasma thru a transmutation process.

    Whether the gasoline vapor and treated water vapor bond momentarily is not the point. Any accelerant can be used in the mix to initiate combustion with conventional ignition. I doubt that bonding is required, as the process is designed to BREAK the natural water bonds and disassociate the atomic structure of the water.

    If you want to make a propane bubbler blow torch with your own bucket go ahead and do it to check out your theory. The point of my experimentation is not to make a propane blow torch, as I already have a pretty robust one in the form of a weed burner.
    Gary Hammond,

  8. #928
    That's an ultrasonic fogger in the bottom of the bucket?

  9. #929
    Hey Soundude,

    Quote Originally Posted by heysoundude View Post
    That's an ultrasonic fogger in the bottom of the bucket?
    Yes it is.
    Gary Hammond,

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