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Thread: Plasma Ignition | Plasma Jet Ignition

  1. #141
    1. There is no need to take the negative cable off the engine. what i mean here is to directly connect the negative of the inverter directly to the negative of the battery so that the capacitor's negative connects thru the bridge rectifier and not from the ground. this type of connection has been recommended by a lot of people from from URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE i suggest that you get information from this site. Caution: my current setup on works in POSITIVE IGNITION system and on my car with carburetor, no-direct injection fuel system and with no ECU.
    2. POSITIVE between diode array anode and the resistor, and resistor connected to bridge rectifier POSITIVE;
    • NEGATIVE to the negative of the bridge rectifier AND the engine. Both the NEGATIVES of bridge and cap should be connected to the engine
    • Never connect bridge or cap to vehicle ground - it must be isolated from car ground. I'm sorry i stand corrected for this mistake i made.

    The diode strings should ONLY be connected: THIS IS RIGHT.
    • ANODE through resistor to bridge POSITIVE and directly to capacitor POSITIVE;
    • CATHODE to spark plug center electrode.
    • Never connect diodes to both the bridge negative and positive: it will be SHORTED.
    NOTE: this is the discharge path of low voltage high current to the sparkplug
    Sorry for my english-I am a Proud Filipino (Philippines).

  2. #142
    To akosiwilly

    Thank you for your reply.

    I upload a new schematic diagram for real apply to vehicle.


    Inverter Plasam Diagram 2.jpg

    (1) Is this right diagram ?
    (2) If right, I think the capacitor will be run out shortly.
    How do your experience in real world ?


    Thank you.

  3. #143
    your diagram is correct. Even with with my homemade inverter i dont have problem running this circuit. and the capacitor discharges is pretty impressive even with using high uf capacitor at least for 3,000 RMP coz my car has only small engine. If your inverter (since it's the one controlling the frequency to charge the caps) can run at high frequency i think it can handle fast charging at high RMP. i wish you luck. If you can find best quality sparkplug then you can try high uf for long period. By the way, this circuit will interfere with your onboard radio. Is your car having a ECU (electronic controlled unit)?

  4. #144
    Thank you for your reply.

    My car is a 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham V8 GM LT1 5.7 Liter engine.
    My car has a pretty sophisticated ECU system as well as many sensors.
    I am worried about the short life of the capacitor in the circuit and the electrical interference with the ECU.
    But I find a great video clip to minimize RF frequency interference as below.

    RF shielding assembly and installation - YouTube

    I think I can make that stuff for my vehicle.

  5. #145
    Check this out.

    Plasma Spark Ignition System Plans - YouTube

    He claim easy plasma spark ignition plan.
    But my point of view that is not a true plasma jet spark. I think it just enhanced ignition spark.
    Here is the plan.


    Enhanced sprak ignition.jpg

    Please feel free to speak any opinion, anybody.
    Last edited by luishan; 08-30-2013 at 06:18 PM.

  6. #146
    Hi Aaron,
    Just joined the site. Fascinating stuff. I found a company that sells a kit for automobiles that "seems" to utilize the technology you describe. Here is the link. Can you comment as to whether this company is or is not selling a system that uses the same technology and whether or not you would think it would be worth my purchase for a 1969 Continental Mark 3 that I'm trying to improve mpg on? Thanks
    Plasma ignition for RACING

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    Hi Aaron,
    Just joined the site. Fascinating stuff. I found a company that sells a kit for automobiles that "seems" to utilize the technology you describe. Here is the link. Can you comment as to whether this company is or is not selling a system that uses the same technology and whether or not you would think it would be worth my purchase for a 1969 Continental Mark 3 that I'm trying to improve mpg on? Thanks
    Plasma ignition for RACING
    I know the company but if you want to look into this, contact Arvind here: Performance Ignition - Ignition Modules and Ignition Systems
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  8. #148
    Guys,

    Aaron has proven the following plasma ignition concepts since 5 years ago, already:

    1) his own unique Plasma CDI concept (what his book "ignition Secrets" is about)

    2) back-end plasma boosting concept (what you guys lately talk about and the products you refer to are)

    3) hybrid concept employing his Plasma CDI with back-end plasma boosting.

    There is not only one way to make plasma ignition, but there are the easier, very successful, and proven ways. and there are other off-beat ways that could lead to lots of money wasted and head aces.

    Its not knowledge that make plasma... its learning the skill and practicing it unto successful art of technical applying.

    Aaron's own proven concept is an affordable, successful way, with which most handy men can obtain Plasma Ignition.

    I myself, will stick to Aaron's own concept, and since I'm very time restricted to replicate, one day I will upload a successful demo to this forum, as a little trophy to say: "I've arrived".

    Then, as a second separate project, I'll learn the back-end method, since all the data for both are on this forum.

    Why learn BOTH?

    Well, Aaron can do both methods, as well as have them work in one system as a hybrid.

    Any idea WHY even attempt a hybrid plasma?

    Well, as analogy, in the world of say turbo boosting, technicians apply applicable laws with the correct methods to control when, how, and quantity of turbo boost needed.

    So, with the plasma part of fuel ignition... you need a basic Plasma CDI for better ignition... then you need to learn when, how, and how much back-end plasma boost to apply for engine under LOAD relative to load and engine temp.

    Non of them are mysteries - but their application might remain so, if never attempted.

    I learned the hard way... wasting time and money... so learn the differences between the 2 methods, and how they can be separately and/or jointly employed.

    An THAT's the KEY!
    Last edited by Willem Coetzee; 09-03-2013 at 01:23 AM.

  9. #149
    Concerning the Plasma Stinger Box, are the HT connectors (the things that look like spark plugs) available?

    Plasma Ignition System Diodes - Stinger Block (read below) - YouTube

  10. #150
    Hy nyemi, I did the right thing. Bravo.
    How to find a scheme that unit.
    Thanks

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