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Thread: Plasma Ignition | Plasma Jet Ignition

  1. #1151
    Hi Jeremiah,

    Quote Originally Posted by RB176 View Post
    .............. What problems should I be watching for? Thanks Jeremiah
    The standard 14ga wire insulation is rated well below the high voltage it has to contain. It will work unless it is physically too close to a good path to ground.
    If the high voltage is shorting through the insulation you should be able to see sparks and arcing, especially after dark. It will also probably misfire if this occurs.
    Gary Hammond,

  2. #1152
    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Hi Jeremiah,





    If the high voltage is shorting through the insulation you should be able to see sparks and arcing, especially after dark. It will also probably misfire if this occurs.
    Just ordered some 30kv 18 gauge wire from eBay, may as well replace that to. Makes me wonder if that could have been my problem all along, although it is working fine now even with the low voltage wire. I’m tempted to try the HV wire in conjunction with my Granatelli 0 olm wire to see what happens.
    Last edited by RB176; 07-18-2019 at 01:51 AM. Reason: Adding

  3. #1153
    Quote Originally Posted by RB176 View Post
    Just ordered some 30kv 18 gauge wire from eBay, may as well replace that to. Makes me wonder if that could have been my problem all along, although it is working fine now even with the low voltage wire. I’m tempted to try the HV wire in conjunction with my Granatelli 0 olm wire to see what happens.
    My Msd wire has 45 ohms of resistance.

  4. #1154
    Just an update on my experiments. I recently did power lynz inside intake manifold and intake port.
    Couldn't get the ridges on intake valve along with it since tungsten carbide and diamond tools were not even able to score the valves .

    When I opened engine, I was shocked to see hard epoxy like deposits, even after soaking it for hours in methanol, methylene chloride, carburetor cleaner, methyl ethyl ketone, kerosene and gasoline, it did nothing to it. Ended up running hard carbon steel wire wheel for about 20 minutes to get it off completely. It was a frustrating experience. Ordinary gasoline piston deposits washes off quickly under a minute. I think that the oil additives from valve seal might be the reason for this.

    Funny thing is there was oil disappearing every week and no smoke or oily residue in exhaust (plasma could be the reason). Piston, rings and bore were in spec and were not having any scorings.

    With powerlynz I have noticed cooler exhaust temperature after decarbonization. So my conclusion is that if engine has hard carbon deposits inside combustion chamber, it won't allow advanced ignition timing and lean mixtures together. Gasoline deposits are inevitable with conventional fuel delivery.

    Also I tried LPC intelligent spark plug with plasma and noticed that both Torquemasters and LPC plugs are similar in performance

  5. #1155
    I'll google the LPC plugs, but would you be so kind as to provide the link you use?

    engine deposits - this is a motorcycle as I recall, correct? do they have a system to balance crankcase pressure and evacuate the blowby and unburned hydrocarbon vapours, like a PCV system in cars? if so, have you tried a catch can on the evac line that recirculates back into the intake?

  6. #1156
    Yes this is Honda cbf150 unicorn variant motorcycle.
    Here is the link for LPC plugs:
    https://store.usalpc.com/product/int...nt-spark-plug/

    There is a secondary air injection built in to exhaust valve chamber design supplies fresh air to exhaust for meeting CO emission requirements. This had an o ring for avoiding oil entering this chamber. O ring was not tight fit,I applied some gasket maker and so far its holding up well.

    After decarbonizing my engine, my bike exhaust is so much cleaner and giving off crazy amount of steam after 3000rpm
    Before decarbonizing (with oil leak) there was horrible smell which is now gone.

    I am seeing this much amount of steam from my engine for first time after doing power lynz. At first, I mistaken it for oil burning. I even did glass fogging test on exhaust.

    If my understanding is correct, this could be the consequence of power lynz. Steam was observed after running straight 30kms with 108 main jet (originally 115 main jet) with throttle position sensor connected and without detonation. What I am interested is to see how long this benefit would last considering the poor quality of gasoline available(its looks adulterated)

    Crank case gases are so clean that there is no visible smoke even with a laser test.

  7. #1157
    I got an email from rock auto today - NGK is now selling Ruthenium spark plugs, another rare metal similar to Iridium.

  8. #1158
    Just checked NGK Ruthenium spark plug design. I can guarantee that it won't be suitable for plasma based on my experience with iridiums(it did not outlast cheap nickel non resistor spark plug). Sure it can give much better life with conventional ignition. But plasma is very different.

    Sharp thin electrode would quickly vaporize iridium and tungsten. Ruthenium is no different in this regard. If there is considerable surface area for spark erosion, like in surface discharge design it would hold up for a very long time.

    I like to think about it this way:
    Hammering a needle like point on another metal, no matter how hard the needle tip is made of, the pressure is way too high, whereas hammering on a larger surface area, not so much.

    In case of plasma, concentrating huge plasma impulse on a sharp point is similar to the above analogy. My understanding is that plasma temperature is way over any known material, so electrode erosion is inevitable.

    So key to better durability of plug is distributing spark erosion by increasing the surface area of the electrode in the spark gap.

  9. #1159
    Hi guys, I'm new at this forum which has so much knowledge to be learned, I'm so much intrigued about 'plasma ignition' which, i presumed to be a diy thing, judging from the comments (pages 1-116). I've read about 60mpg in one comment. Q: how about showing data (before and after plasma ignition)? Does someone have a 'install and forget' device for non-diyer's? I understand this plasma thing is only for gasoline, right? Sorry for interrupting.

  10. #1160
    Hi Nuvists,

    Quote Originally Posted by nuvisys View Post
    ..................... I understand this plasma thing is only for gasoline, right? ..................

    It can be used with any fuel that is spark ignited in the engine such as gasoline, alcohol, L.P., nitro-methane, ammonia, etc. Walt Jenkins can even burn water with plasma ignition. Check out his web site here. https://www.h2ge.com/
    Gary Hammond,

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