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    Bradley,

    Very nice work on this Moto Gen patent and the subsequent results are very interesting. Thanks for sharing your excitement.
    Yaro

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    Alright, well I did something stupid and tried to clean up the wiring and now this effect is not happening. Wanted to make everything more clean so that when I made a video it could be easier to see what was hooked to what.

    However I think I know why its not doing it right now and will be testing more to try and get the effect back.

    Haveing said that I am going to do my best to describe what was happening. It had something to do with the collector of the 3055. What happened was I had an LED hooked to it to view the timing so when the coil pulsed so did the LED. The LED stopped blinking at one point at one point and I assumed I had burned it out so I took ONE lead off and left the negative side of the LED attatched to the 3055 collector. When I was poking around to find the source of the oscillations at one point i touched the positive lead of the led and it lit dimly and the pulse train lengthened! It was acting as some sort of antenna that was effecting the oscillations.

    I proceeded to try different things and got some different effects. The most intriguing was if I hooked a capacitors negative terminal to the collector and touched the positive terminal with my finger the capacitor would charge! Along with that when I would do anything that made the pulse train longer the current draw would very slightly increase BUT the battery voltage would rise as if the load was smaller. all together from what I saw I believe there will be benifits to this oscillation happening, so I will be messing with this thing until I get the oscillations to return. They seemed "stable" as in if the hall was within a certain region they would show up and I could very things and they just changed instead of going away. At the present moment I cannot get them to show up and the pulse looks different but I am pretty sure I know whats causing it. So I wont have the video tonight but will be working towards getting things the way they need to be to cause this effect again and be able to test it.

    Thanks for the support!

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    Figured out what it was. This effect is dependent on two things.

    #1 the transistor. Not sure what exactly is different from the ones that work and the ones that don't. I know i noticed that the wave just didn't look like before. Even though the motor would run it just acted different. I tried 4-5 different 3055 transistors because the one I was using originally burned out. Once I got the wave looking somewhat like before I started figuring out the oscillations.

    EDITTED; I had #2 incorrect. so it was deleted so as to not relay incorrect information

    As before, the effects are weird. if I hook a wire from the diode I have attached to the collector and hold the other end in my hand I get more oscillations. If i touch the lead to the + terminal of a battery (negative not hooked to anything) more oscillations. If I do not touch the metal wire and only wrap my hand around the insulated part more oscillations. So it is definately linked to some capacitive effect with the collector of the 3055.

    Sorry if none of this makes sense I have been messing with it for hours and my brain is running on E.
    Last edited by Bradley Malone; 03-25-2018 at 07:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley Malone View Post
    Here is the best shots I could get at the moment. I am going to be cleaning up my bench today and getting a few 7Ah batteries ready for a good test run. And will hopefully have time to make a video tonight going over everything I have tested. The one I already made I left to much out.

    The oscillations are not caused by the magnets or the hall sensor. It has something to do with the circuit. When I touch certain things to certain spots I can increase or decrease these oscillations. As stated before I have no clue if it will be beneficial. However It does appear That more oscillations cause my analog current meter to go up very slightly BUT the battery voltage also rises as if the load isn't as much. So I will post everything I can think of and a video later today so That everyone can check this effect out. Attachment 6834Attachment 6835Attachment 6836
    Hi Bradley Malone,
    Great!! and thanks for the pics above.. just a small tip the gap between the pole piece and the magnet pole appear too much..ideally they must be the minimum (remember its a flux gate switching that is the crux here) rest is all just Great i must say!!
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    'The Magnetic Field is the gatekeeper of the Wheather on the Earth'' - John Bedini.

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    Thanks Faraday. As I stated before I started out with tight tolerances but my building skills were not enough for it. One little bump and the magnets would hit the cores and go flying. So I decided to move to two magnets on the rotor and will be adding metal to the ends of the cores to "close" the gap as in the patent. I'll try to get a video up today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley Malone View Post
    Thanks Faraday. As I stated before I started out with tight tolerances but my building skills were not enough for it. One little bump and the magnets would hit the cores and go flying. So I decided to move to two magnets on the rotor and will be adding metal to the ends of the cores to "close" the gap as in the patent. I'll try to get a video up today.
    Hey Bradly,
    you have great building skills do'nt let your self down man!! asthetics(you must be like Newman) comes later but first the functional aspect of the machine..i worked on this patent years ago (2008-9 time frame) but never built it..strangely i'm kind of distracted from sticking with one thing at a time on this subject.
    But one thing that is for sure is that, i have grapsed much of the essence of the various intircate features of the embodiment involved!!
    If you study it carefully you will realise that the out Battery to the recovery diode(single) has to be present all the times for this embodiment of the Motor-Generator to function as per its design. The other circuit comprising of the FWBR is switchable between feeding back to the input battery or Charge a Capacitor that can be used to flash charge into another battery or Flash power a load like an other motor or Light bulb. From a typical application front, its a very high COP motor generator like, if you replace the hub motor in an electric bike that shall have a set two banks of batteries one out put as above and an input that powers the motor Generator in pulses and /or in alteration of charging the input/output batteries or powering itself to run the bike.. a variety of combinations are possible..
    more later..
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Last edited by Faraday88; 03-25-2018 at 11:07 PM. Reason: grammar
    'The Magnetic Field is the gatekeeper of the Wheather on the Earth'' - John Bedini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    strangely i'm kind of distracted from sticking with one thing at a time on this subject.
    Glad Im not the only one

    It is extremly hard for me to stick to one project. That is why I quit posting so much. I would start one thing and as soon as I saw what I wanted to know about it I would move
    on to something else. I have an idea for a homopolar/faraday generator unlike anything I have seen and I am trying very hard to finish testing this before I shove it aside.

    having said that I have done some test and again got very weird resulst. I was using this motorgizer to charge a secondary battery bewteen the positive of the cap and the run battery. the run battery stayed pretty solid but the charge battery would jump straight to 14 volts then slowly come down as it absorbed the charge. The weird thing was with the oscillations steady the charge battery would randomly jump back up in voltage. I figured the battery I am using on the charge side may not be a good battery and haven't gotten back to it yet. To much stuff going on in life right now to test as much or as thouroughly as I want to.

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    One more note on this.

    The oscillations are definately, in part, due to it being in the "pull" mode. Here is why. When I look on the scope there is the drop to 12 volts (I have the display inverted so the positive input is down) aftter the input pulse to the coils turns off the oscillations begin. With or without the pulses there is then a reversed pulse that rides at about 14-15 volts and is normally about 1/3 the length of the on pulse. After playing around I realised, That pulse dies down to 0 at TDC. So when the magnet is Just starting to cause induction into the cores the coils are turned on for a small amount of time. When the coils are turned off the magnet is still approaching the cores causing this (reversed from the input) voltage. when I can get the oscillations to stay on for the entire wave they always end at the end of the reversed voltage. So they only oscillate during the time that the magnet is still approaching and still inducing a climbing voltage. Also the oscillations climb from one to the next untill they reach a maximum of about 160 volts then stay level until the induced voltage drops at tdc (well not TDC but the point where the induced voltage starts to return to 0).

    EDIT: more to add

    This is in essence what I was looking for when I decided to make it pull. when you push away the magnet the inductive collapse happens at the end of the pulse when the magnet is "away" when you pull the magnet from "away" and turn off the coil before it is at the cores the collapse has to happen while the magnets are still inducing a climbing voltage. in the coil that is the same polarity of the collapse. So I am begining to think the idea that it was an effect of the circuit is wrong and that those effects are caused by this effect. which is that an inductive collapse towards negative while being induced negative by the maget is an effect in its own. Such as the "snap back" of a compressed spring when the spring is being stretched at the same time that the snap back occurs. I have a lot of pondering to do on this one. I wanted to see any different effects in the pull configuration and I was definately given SOMETHING. whether it will be of benefit or not only time and testing will tell!
    Last edited by Bradley Malone; 03-26-2018 at 12:58 PM.

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    Hi Brad and Faraday88,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley Malone View Post
    Glad Im not the only one

    It is extremly hard for me to stick to one project. That is why I quit posting so much. I would start one thing and as soon as I saw what I wanted to know about it I would move
    on to something else. .............I am trying very hard to finish testing this before I shove it aside.
    I have this same problem.

    I've got a shop full of projects, some partially completed and some just started. I've moved from the advanced SSG, to the three battery switch, to the attraction motor, to the flux gate generator, to the plasma ignition, to the beginnings of adding water vapor to run an engine. I still want to improve upon my attempts with the attraction motor powering a flux gate generator. And I want to build the "beyond the advanced SSG" with automatic four battery rotation. But I got distracted with adding plasma ignition and water vapor to my Bradly GT.

    And, also like you said, life tends to get in the way. I've been teaching shop class to my 16 year old grandson, and my wife and I have been taking lots of little mini-vacations.
    Last edited by Gary Hammond; 03-26-2018 at 01:48 PM.
    Gary Hammond,

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    Alright I have got to say...synchronicity is a thing (thanks for that post faraday)

    Thank you gary for chiming in here. seriously the posts make me totally feel different. I have honestly felt bad in the past because I have so many ideas running through my head that they over-ride and get in the way of each other. I have started threads that i completely had every intention of following through with until I learned what I wanted to know then was totaly consumed with the "next step" in my quest to understand this stuff. Knowing That you guys are on the same page with that makes me feel like I am not crazy

    As for the synchronicity...slight back story, I have always....and I mean ALWAYS wondered about "free energy" people get stuck on the notion of "creating energy" that is not the case. My uncle started teaching me machining when I was 14 and I loved the ability to make anything and absorbed it. I distinctly remember one day we got talking about generators and motors I instantly asked why not hook a generator to the motor and put the "generated" into the motor to run forever. So the talk of "perpetual motion" came up he said because of losses due to friction and whatever that its not possible. I remember thinking in that moment yeah that sounds right, But also the entire universe, our solar system, I can't believe even if I wanted to that it was just "started" and will someday end when all the energy runs out...it just simply didn't make sense to me.

    YEARS later while in the navy I was (still) researching while standing a watch and came across FEandFT.com "free energy and free thinking"...I have NO idea (other than synchronicity) what lead me to this site. It was mainly about walter russell. When I started reading russell's books it rung a bell with me so loud I couldn't ignore it if I wanted to. Within a week or so I had read every single page. It captivated me. I am a logical person that has always felt that CURRENT logic was skewed. Walter made me understand why. When I was done reading I was ecstatic (the whole time really) since then I have been searching for the answer to the questions my mind never leaves alone.

    I have ALWAYS wondered ...if the universe will just keep chugging along (because somehow I just feel like thats the truth) WHY can't we. In researching for that I came accross JB and an explanation of taking 0 and making it -1 and +1 which is 0 but also 2. THAT rang like a bell also because of Russell. Since then I KNOW it in my soul that it works and am trying to make it in our reality.

    Because of all that i know for certain that the synchronicity idea is a real thing, and that "I believe" is why I move from one thing to the next. It is the experience that truly matters! Along with that I truly DESIRE to set the world free from the crap it is in by giving the world the thing that will change that...power. with free unlimited power "given by reality itself" people without water will be able to distill water anywhere. People that need to travel will not need gas. People that need heat in the winter will not have to give their lives working to pay for it. The list goes on. As tesla stated its only a matter of time before men attach a dynamo to the wheel-work of nature.

    I think that time is coming. Your post re-rang my bell so to speak. I will still be working on this project But something is leading me to Move on at the same time to the homopolar generator that I have been thinking of. the only problem with the homopolar is the low output voltage, I think i fgured out how to fix that! Will post more later on that.

    Until then

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