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Thread: Gyroscopic Mechanisms [Related Components, Geometry, Mass, Atmospheric Pressure]

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    Gyroscopic Mechanisms [Related Components, Geometry, Mass, Atmospheric Pressure]

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    Gyroscopic Mechanisms [Related Components, Geometry, Mass, Atmospheric Pressure]

    A Presentation On Gyroscopic Effects By Professor Eric Laithwaite.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCEJxO6V9g


    In the demonstration at 35:23 he demonstrates the gyroscope suspended on a string moving in a wide orbit (around the strings suspension point) while the gyroscope is rotating. The gyroscope at this point is at a high RPM and the gyroscopes axle is perpendicular to the string. Later in the same demonstration the gyroscope's orbit (around the strings suspension point) is less wide (smaller), while the RPM of the gyroscope is significantly less by comparison to the first example (with a wide orbit), however the gyroscope remains perpendicular to the string.

    In other words the orbit being large and the RPM being high and the orbit being small with a low RPM both result in the same position of the gyroscope (perpendicular to the string).



    Has anyone got any further related comments on this demonstration by Eric Laithwaite?
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    This is incredibly interesting, stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCEJxO6V9g

    The whole video makes me think. I did not know he had worked on Magnetic levitation systems.

    Space has inertia, as do gravitional forces. F=m.g, F = m.a, is for DC in electrical terms. V= I.R, more completely V=I.Z, Force and Potential can be viewed as the same thing.

    V = R.i + L.di/dt + C. integral i.dt ,

    F = m.a + m.da/dt + m. integral a.dt

    I need to have a deep think and. Do you have any of laithwaites maths he mentioned.
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    I enjoyed this book not a college level book but a fun read

    https://www.amazon.com/Rotational-Dy...ional+dynamics

    and this one

    https://www.amazon.com/Gyroscopic-Th...oscopic+theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handy andy View Post
    This is incredibly interesting, stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCEJxO6V9g

    The whole video makes me think. I did not know he had worked on Magnetic levitation systems.

    Space has inertia, as do gravitional forces. F=m.g, F = m.a, is for DC in electrical terms. V= I.R, more completely V=I.Z, Force and Potential can be viewed as the same thing.

    V = R.i + L.di/dt + C. integral i.dt ,

    F = m.a + m.da/dt + m. integral a.dt

    I need to have a deep think and. Do you have any of laithwaites maths he mentioned.

    Hey Andy,


    In the demonstration at 35:23 his mechanism is defiantly not magnetic or electric when it is functioning. It is simply a rotating gyroscope on the end of a string. Although there is a documentary about the Eric Laithwaite where he develops a magnetic levitation system, show levitating a metal ball, the clip is at the end of the documentary.

    I do not have any of the maths related to the presentation on gyroscopes although if you wish I can provide you with some of my own related to the 35:23 demonstration.

    Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam J Batchelar View Post
    Hey Andy,


    In the demonstration at 35:23 his mechanism is defiantly not magnetic or electric when it is functioning. It is simply a rotating gyroscope on the end of a string. Although there is a documentary about the Eric Laithwaite where he develops a magnetic levitation system, show levitating a metal ball, the clip is at the end of the documentary.

    I do not have any of the maths related to the presentation on gyroscopes although if you wish I can provide you with some of my own related to the 35:23 demonstration.

    Sam
    My reference to the magnetic levitation stuff was because as an engineer Laithwaite worked on it. It was first developed by British Rail before it was privatised up the road from Leeds in York I believe, where they used to do some research work, in the days when the rail service was affordable in the UK. The technology was sold to the Japanese who went on and developed it. They now have an excellent rail service whereas the British have not.

    If you have some maths on the Gyro I would appreciate it, The book Tom recommended above only goes over basic rotational physics. Dont be concerned about using scary maths, I still understand it from school.

    http://www.real-world-physics-proble...e-physics.html

    I found this link which may be useful.
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