Quote Originally Posted by izham View Post
Hello everybody:
First I want to apologize for my English. It is not my usual language.
I try to write all this in a clear way for everyone who is reading can understand.

I have some years of reading things in this forum and have also participated a little. Now it is time to experiment a little and I decided to do some tests on the battery charging without condenser or cap pulser. I want to use the basics of circuit SSG.
It is important for my check I can really see a gradual decrease in the time it takes the battery(s) to be charged to over 15v (in my case about 15-15.10) and gradual increase in the time taken to discharge the battery(s) down to 12v (in my case about 12.35-12.40).
There are many documents online that talk about battery charging technology that Sr.Bedini has given us. And there are many people working very hard on the forums so that everyone can learn and can draw their own conclusions.
In many document that I'm talking about, they say something like this ..." You will see a gradual decrease in the time it takes the battery(s) to be charged to over 15V and a gradual increase in the time taken to discharge the battery(s) down to 12V -12.4V under load."
In my test, right now, I'm getting a different thing and I wonder if I'm on the right track. It is true that my batteries take less time to reach about 15 volts, but I also have seen a gradual decrease in the time taken to discharge the battery(s) down to 12.35-12.40V under load.

O.k, I will describe my circuit:
Primary Battery: I'm not using a battery as a primary battery. I use 220V to 12V “wall wart” power supply as the “the input source”. In the circuit input I have 13.32vdc. The circuit runs at 250mA. That rises slightly above the C20, but it is not important because I do not use any battery as primary and I just want to check the second battery conditioning.
Secondary Battery(s): Completely new. 4Ah YUCELL CB4L-B. The battery is supplied dry, and requires electrolyte packs (acid packs) to fill. After filling the battery must let the battery rest about 24 hours. I loaded these batteries three times with a computerized charger-discharger. The charger-discharger long time it reaches 14.40vdc. The load current has always been 200mA. After I discharge these batteries three times with the same charger-discharger. The discharge current has always been 200mA down to 12.40. I have always respected the C20 rate. 80%(4Ah)=200mA 200mA/C20=160mA
Coil: One trifilar coil. Is approximately 450 turns of SWG24 ECW as specified in Fig.33/ p.47 of the Bearden/ Bedini publication 'Free Energy Generation'.The coil former is 5.5cm wide, 8cm tall and the central hole is 1.6cm. I decided to use this type of coil, because after these tets I wanted to test a cap-pulser.
Core: Lincoln R60
Rotor: It's a plastic wheel of about 5.90 inches. Eight magnets. C8 grade. All with North pole facing out.
Circuit: For some time I buy the "Bedini SG 4 Transistor Board and Kit" in Teslagenx store. It's a real pleasure to talk to Tom C. He is always willing to help if you have any questions. The circuit is ready to work with 4 transistors, but my circuit only needs two. I have a three wire coil (trifilar). A trigger circuit and two circuits run.
The basic idea of my circuit is this ...

Attachment 5458

I am using a 470 ohm resistor at the base of each transistor (MJL21194) and a potentiometer 1k. I think my sweet spot is when the potentiometer is set to 187.3ohm. I am also using the diodes 1N4007 and 1N5408.
The waveform in my oscilloscope when not connected to the secondary battery is this...

Attachment 5459

And the waveform in my oscilloscope when is connected the secondary battery is this...

Attachment 5460

I also put a small analog ammeter in series with the positive of my secondary battery. When the circuit is operating in battery are entering approximately 90mA.

Attachment 5461

Now I'll put some data of the batteries. You can see that something bad is happening. I've been seeing a gradual decrease in the time taken to discharge the battery(s) down to 12.35-12.40V under load. I think this has to be reversed. I have to see an increase in time.
I have designed a small circuit to protect the battery when it is charging in the SSG (system without capacitor). When the voltage reaches a value ... for example, 15.10v, the system stops automatically. There is also a small circuit to protect the battery when it is discharging its energy. When the voltage reaches a value ... for example, 12.35v, the system also stops automatically.
In the first cycles, when the system detects that the battery has reached 15.10 was not well adjusted. You can see even a reading of 15.62v.
I've never discharge these small batteries below 12.0v under load or faster than the C20 rate of discharge.

The first column is the initial voltage, the second column is the final voltage, the third column is the time.
I've always expected from one hour to four hours to start dischargers and chargers.

Initial Voltage Final Voltage Time
Discharge 12.85 12.15 7:03h
----expected from one hour to four-----
Charge (ssg) 12.39 15.38 22:50h

Discharge 12.87 12.20 8:35h
Charge (ssg) 12.42 15.35 18:45h

Discharge 12.99 12.30 3.50h
Charge (ssg) 12.59 15.62 9.85h

Discharge 12.93 15.25 3.45h
Charge (ssg) 12.45 15.45 16.15h

Discharge 13.00 12.35 3.40h
Charge (ssg) 12.56 15.51 9.45h

Discharge 13.03 12.30 3.25h
Charge (ssg) 12.59 15.44 9.05h

Discharge 12.97 12.30 2.23h
Charge (ssg) 12.62 15.20 8.35h

Discharge 12.93 12.39 3.43h
Charge (ssg) 12.55 15.08 7.40h

Discharge 12.97 12.27 3.10h
Charge (ssg) 12.57 15.10 6.25h

Discharge 13.03 12.30 2.50h
Charge (ssg) 12.57 15.06 6h

Discharge 12.92 12.33 2.25h
Charge (ssg) 12.60 15.10 5.04h

Discharge 12.92 12.35 4.30h
Charge (ssg) 12.60 15.08 4.35h

Discharge 12.70 12.30 1.15h
Charge (ssg) 12.61 15.07 4.15h

Discharge 12.90 12.32 1.45h
Charge (ssg) 12.60 15.08 3.55h

Discharge 12.84 12.35 1.30h
Charge (ssg) 12.62 15.06 3.20h

Discharge 12.64 12.31 1.27h
Charge (ssg) 12.61 15.07 3.35h

As you can see with these data something very strange it is happening with my batteries ..... and not exactly what the Sr.Bedini says it has to happen.
I do not know where I could be my mistake.

Thanks ans best regards and...sorry for my English.

As you can see with these data something very strange it is happening with my batteries ..... and not exactly what the Sr.Bedini says it has to happen.
I do not know where I could be my mistake.

Thanks ans best regards and...sorry for my English. [/QUOTE]

Hi,
Please check the specific gravity you said your batteries came dry...if that is the case you need to do more than just add distilled water into it...yes you will have to add H2SO4 into distilled water until you make 1.20 on the hygrometer.this is the fair state for the battery.
you need to monitor the SG and ensure that it gets better and better and stabilizes at 1.30 or more.that is full charge state for a lead acid battery.
awiat for your reply..
Rgds,
Faraday88.