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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    Hi John,

    Thanks again for your appreciations, while i also appreciate your approach on being more practical and not interested in the Mombo jombo part (Theory), I look at it this way,I do not proceed until i understand the beauty of the process/ Phenomenon under study. as i also said in my early post that there are more potential iterations of this circuit.
    but what you pointed out is the key. While i insist that MOSFETS were not around when Ron originally built the circuit, i do'nt see why this cannot be used, at least the POWER SWITCH part of the circuit. again the hard part would be to use a P-Channel MOSFET (counter part of PNP in BJTs).
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Hi John,

    Here is how it can be made: Modify the circuit : the Charge circuit remains the same (R C B S), however the Discharge circuit can be replaced by a MOSFET device.
    the corresponding drive circuit being the Bedini Inverted circuit comprising of H11D1, BD243C, ect. and ofcousre the Oscillator/ Duty cycle circuit as per the criterion LONG ON SHORT OFF and the double Inversion out put stage.
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hammond View Post
    Hi RS,



    When you say they work, do you mean that you got them to keep the batteries charged?
    Hi Gary,

    what it really means is that you can swap the Batteries (input /out put) all while you keep the load running...it would do that over extended periods of time. if you tinker with the iterations I guess the extended periods are sky limit..with periodic switching/ Change over done.
    An Interesting aspect of the load driven by the various iterations is that you can tune a heat dissipative load to give more HEAT and less LIGHT or vice-versa.
    More TORQUE less SPEED and Vice versa in case you wish to run a motive device(motor). having said that a part of the circuit isolated would give you BOTH FROM THE SAME BATTERY!!!! just imagine what that implies from the Free Energy stand point.
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Last edited by Faraday88; 09-29-2015 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    Hi John,

    Thanks again for your appreciations, while i also appreciate your approach on being more practical and not interested in the Mombo jombo part (Theory), I look at it this way,I do not proceed until i understand the beauty of the process/ Phenomenon under study. as i also said in my early post that there are more potential iterations of this circuit.
    but what you pointed out is the key. While i insist that MOSFETS were not around when Ron originally built the circuit, i do'nt see why this cannot be used, at least the POWER SWITCH part of the circuit. again the hard part would be to use a P-Channel MOSFET (counter part of PNP in BJTs).
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Hi Faraday88,

    Thanks for your reply. I didn't imply that I wasn't interested in the theory it's just I'm a guy that learns better from experimentation - build it first and then study why it does what it does. There's nothing wrong with your approach either.
    I don't see why you couldn't use MOSFETs either in this circuit. It's getting them to work properly that's the challenge.

    John K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    Hi John,

    Here is how it can be made: Modify the circuit : the Charge circuit remains the same (R C B S), however the Discharge circuit can be replaced by a MOSFET device.
    the corresponding drive circuit being the Bedini Inverted circuit comprising of H11D1, BD243C, ect. and ofcousre the Oscillator/ Duty cycle circuit as per the criterion LONG ON SHORT OFF and the double Inversion out put stage.
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Hi Faraday88, thanks. I'll give that a try.

    John K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Koorn View Post
    Hi Faraday88,

    Thanks for your reply. I didn't imply that I wasn't interested in the theory it's just I'm a guy that learns better from experimentation - build it first and then study why it does what it does. There's nothing wrong with your approach either.
    I don't see why you couldn't use MOSFETs either in this circuit. It's getting them to work properly that's the challenge.

    John K.
    Hi John ,
    I strongly stand by you in your approach after all One experiment can lay down every theory!
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Last edited by Faraday88; 10-01-2015 at 05:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    Hi John,

    Thanks again for your appreciations, while i also appreciate your approach on being more practical and not interested in the Mombo jombo part (Theory), I look at it this way,I do not proceed until i understand the beauty of the process/ Phenomenon under study. as i also said in my early post that there are more potential iterations of this circuit.
    but what you pointed out is the key. While i insist that MOSFETS were not around when Ron originally built the circuit, i do'nt see why this cannot be used, at least the POWER SWITCH part of the circuit. again the hard part would be to use a P-Channel MOSFET (counter part of PNP in BJTs).
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Hi Faraday,
    thanks for adding to this discussion, I always find many of your insights help me to see/think of things I would not have otherwise. Can you point me to some iterations of this circuit you think would have more potential?
    Thanks - kind regards
    Patrick A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Koorn View Post
    I have built a prototype of the circuit and have it running, however I am still tuning it.

    I built it the same as the above circuit, the only exceptions being:

    -: Replaced 10V zener diode with LM7812
    -: Repalced 2N4919 with MJE2955T
    -: Replaced MJ15022 with MJL21193G
    -: Replaced MJ15003 with MJL21194G
    -: Replaced 2N6306 with MJL21194G
    -: Replaced 4N26 with H11D1

    All other components are as listed. Currently I'm using a 12V 50W halogen bulb as the RL.

    I'd be very interested to hear from anyone else who has replicated this circuit.

    John K.
    I have not built the 555 timer version of this ckt, my flip flop inverter behaves similarly. I'll have to scope it out again it's been a while. it did not isolate either the battery or the load so no comparison just food for thought...
    thanks for starting this thread.
    Kind regards,
    Patrick

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    Quote Originally Posted by min2oly View Post
    Hi Faraday,
    thanks for adding to this discussion, I always find many of your insights help me to see/think of things I would not have otherwise. Can you point me to some iterations of this circuit you think would have more potential?
    Thanks - kind regards
    Patrick A.
    Hi Patrick,
    Thanks to you too, Sure I have promised to John K as well that i would share my findings,also the other iterations would power a load at the same time charge your receive battery.i shall share once i replicate and have things ready for the forum.. i'm in the process of aggregating a common understanding to rig up a given iteration to cater a particular use.
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    Hi John,

    What about the Switching Frequency? same as what Ron used..?? Why are'nt we using MOSFETS here??
    with My understanding, there are certain Operational parameters which also have to changed in making this rig up work to it full potential
    this is very similar to the Latest Teslagenx Large Comparator unit in one of its iteration of usage.

    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Hi John,
    After some tinkering i realize that you were correct up close..!!! it is indeed JBs 3 battery version of the Tesla Switch, However there is one hidden aspect about the rig up, i shall experimentally verify before i can call it EUREKA!!!!
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    Hi John,

    While i insist that MOSFETS were not around when Ron originally built the circuit, i do'nt see why this cannot be used, at least the POWER SWITCH part of the circuit. again the hard part would be to use a P-Channel MOSFET (counter part of PNP in BJTs).
    Rgds,
    Faraday88.
    Hi Faraday,
    I remember FET's from the sixties. Mosfets were around in the seventies as were IGBT's. Ron cole, being the wizz kid that he was, may have chosen not to use these due to their suseptibility at the gate junction to electrostatic charges. Also, one of the reasons why they can be hard to handle in Radiant circuitry such as the TS, which effectively produces a longitudinal wave. Therefore, mosfets start behaving badly when the switching starts to approach success.

    Cheers

    Dwane

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