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    must be 5-filar for sure...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faraday88 View Post
    must be 5-filar for sure...!
    nope look at the circuit board carefully
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    John B,

    I have been trying to duplicate your comparator circuit ever since you first showed it at the 2011 conference and am not having much luck getting it to dump quite like you have shown in your video. Mine dumps around 1/2 amp on each dump and I can't seem to get it any higher than that. I am using the same circuit that Ron Chase and I worked on that was discussed in the Energetic forum. Can I post some stuff here or should I start a new thread to discuss further?


    Many thanks, Brent


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    In This Video I’m showing the original SG Monopole Energizer.
    Just giving some tips for the group in what to look for.
    This is discussed on the Energy Science Forum


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    hi all john and john
    it's a 7 run + 1 trigger
    making a 8 filler
    guyzzemf

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    Guy is right on about John B's original bike wheel.
    the prototype board that is running the wheel in the vid appears to have 5 transistors and strands going to it.
    the kit for sale will obviously only have 4 transistors.

    I completely and thoroughly appreciate all the effort thought and insight being put forward in this effort. I would like to note for the record.

    I have achieved the 1.2 + C O P with Rick's 3PM kit w/ neo's. I think many of us on the old monopole2 forum were getting these results with various builds as well.

    I just thought this was worth noting. I don't mean to cause trouble and if you think this should be removed, feel free to do so or let me know and I'll delete it.
    kind regards,
    Patrick

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyzzemf View Post
    hi all john and john
    it's a 7 run + 1 trigger
    making a 8 filler
    guyzzemf
    you got it guy!

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    Hi all,
    I don’t know how we got so far off track but here is an update to what I have been doing with the 8 lead coils I built.

    I left off where the coils were heating up very bad. This was due to a huge mistake on my part. I mounted the coils wrong side up. This switches the north and south thru the core when energized. So my machine was trying to run with north super poles against a south core. Not gonna happen! Not until I mounted up the south neo’s in between the north superpoles. Yes the machine ran but the coils got very hot. Tom gave me the key to the problem……..the south neo’s were quite a distance from the core and as a result made quite a large south field in rotational area. The machine was running not from the superpole norths but from the very small south neo’s. Still amazing how powerful they are! The very large south magnetic field area did switch the transistors on but kept them on for a very long time. This caused the windings to heat up much like a car ignition coil does when running. The trannies were on way too long!
    After realizing my mistake I turned the coils over and took off the neo’s….trying to run the machine with superpole norths. The wheel just would not turn due to a very weak pulse from the trigger coil. I could see this on the scope. So I got to thinking about the on time for the transistors. They are controlled by the magneto effect from the magnet length passing by the core of the coil thus energizing the pulse and on time for the trigger. The longer the magnetic field in rotational time in relation to the core diameter, the longer the transistor will stay on. The shorter the magnetic field in rotational time in relation to the core diameter, the shorter duration the transistor will stay on and if short enough will not make enough power to pulse all of the transistors at once. The size of the cores of these large coils is 1” and the superpole magnetic width tangent to the core is roughly .200”. This is why the machine will not run. I just do not have enough pulse to make all 8 of the transistors at the same time.
    So why not change the transistor on time and hopefully provide enough pulse to trigger all 8 transistors at once. Use a longer magnet! Not a stronger shorter one like the superpole provides!
    We have all been using the 3/8” X 1” X 17/8” magnets all along…..just because! So I did a calculation to compare the standard .75” dia core in reference to the 1” magnet face to my existing 1” dia. core and I should be using a 1.333” wide magnet face. I happened to have 2” X 3” magnets on the bench and taped them up to the wheel. I mounted 8 magnets with the 3” length perpendicular to the wheel. The 2” face would be seeing the 1” core in rotational time. I hooked everything up and hooked up a charge battery and a primary battery and away this thing went. I hooked up the scope to tune the trannies in and they all a very nice “H” shape. Just like the text book! But there is a problem…..the resistance needed to make this thing stay in tune is very touchy. Something like 10 ohm. A few ohms either way and things go very wrong.
    So just for the grins I took this super SSG energizer to my huge battery bank and let it run all night. This morning it was still running and everything was cool. No hot coils and no hot anything…..not even warm. It had been running at 20 volts at 3 amp. all night long and charged things up nicely.
    This morning I hooked up and additional 8 lead coil to the other side just to see what the outcome would be. I do not know any further info at this time. When I get home from work we will see what gives.
    One thing I do know now…….8 is as high as I want to go. Tom is right! …..4 is much more doable and much more controllable.
    Bud
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    Brent,
    If it is about the SG you post here on the dump circuit.
    John Bedini
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    Comparator Dump

    John B,

    Here is the circuit I am using...Bedini Comparator Circuit_v5.1.pdf

    When you showed your video last week and the cap was dumping over 2 amps, I knew something was wrong with my circuit. Made me realize why the batteries were taking so long to charge. No matter what size cap I use (12,000uF, 15,000uF, 18,000uF and 33,000uF) for the dump, I cant get it to dump more than 1/2 amp. I will try and take some video or some pictures this weekend. Not sure what is wrong.


    Thanks, Brent

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Brent,
    If it is about the SG you post here on the dump circuit.

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    Just explain more, but I can see the voltages are not right, where did you get this diagram?


    Quote Originally Posted by BrentA929 View Post
    John B,

    Here is the circuit I am using...Bedini Comparator Circuit_v5.1.pdf

    When you showed your video last week and the cap was dumping over 2 amps, I knew something was wrong with my circuit. Made me realize why the batteries were taking so long to charge. No matter what size cap I use (12,000uF, 15,000uF, 18,000uF and 33,000uF) for the dump, I cant get it to dump more than 1/2 amp. I will try and take some video or some pictures this weekend. Not sure what is wrong.


    Thanks, Brent
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

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