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  1. #101

    Solar Switch

    Here is a circuit that anybody can make without going into all this complicated stuff. I have been using this to control outside lights off deep Cycle batteries for the past 5 years my office is all solar and so are the outbuildings I have never run out of power even with all the cloudy days in Idaho. This solar switch can switch some real current if you want to use big devices and a Darlington arrangement it can also use a big power Fet for 420 amps. This is a very simple charging circuit. I donít know if I believe that little cell added anything in that arrangement in the video as the light is way too low. Since that motor drive circuit is not drawing much current the Ni-Cad battery can do that easy since itís pulsed I even find trouble with his two transistor circuit to drive the motor as the bias is very critical otherwise the circuit will just turn on and stay on and the motor will not do anything. I have not posted what I want as this is just a study course for me. The arrangement in the easy spin makes it a generator also but does not give anything back just move the ac wave into the square wave and you will see what is missing this limits the motor RPM, the spike is another issue. It also makes it impossible to charge Lipo batteries as you need a steady current that changes impedance levels with voltage. You could use a linear regulator once everything is converted. It is possible to have the solar motor drive a geared switch to switch batteries. If you want to get more complicated this can all be electronic with the ICís we have today. The solar cell can even be detected in its color range and adjust the circuit for maximum output. I always try to keep everything very simple in the groups because some have some trouble making things. But this is enough for now as I really do not want to get people mad at me. I would suggest you build DadHav two transistor circuit just the way he posted it and find out for yourself if it works, that way.
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

  2. #102
    I agree on keeping things simple and I did build a small led light using your garden light ckt when you first shared it way back when we were starting with the crystal batteries/cellsÖ my daughter also built a couple for her 5th grade winter bazaar along with some reed switched mini window-ish newman-ish motors.

    I have built Dadhavís ckt and it does act as you say, stays on unless you get the bias right. It is very efficient when you get it all balanced and it seems to push current on the charge side rather than spike. So kind of like a linear amplifier I thought. Anyway I am by no means a knowledgeable person in this field. I really do enjoy replicating these builds. I do not have a 3d printer so I look forward to the kit.
    KR Ė Patrick A.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    So lets see what YouTube did here is the link
    John
    I really like this build.
    I wonder how much more difficult it would be to mount it on "magnetic bearings". I'm just thinking since it's so light that could actually be an option...
    KR - Patrick A.

  4. #104

    3D printed Zero Force Motor

    Ok,
    So I have been busy here and have considered showing the Zero Force motor. This motor that Iím showing is in a very simple form to make it easy to understand and 3D printed. Around 1971 to 1972 Ron Cloe and I decided to do experiments with this type of motor. We discovered this by accident as some things were lying on the bench when we were pulsing magnetic fields to test a theory we had. The first zero force motor was done very crude and was just on a board with a couple of L bracket to just test it.
    Later on we made a movie and sent it to Tom Bearden, Tom did a paper on this and called it an A field motor. I continued my experiments with mapping magnetic fields and the way they looked around magnets and coils, I did not come up with textbook drawings as can be seen from some of the drawings floating around the internet in the images. Around the same time Howard Johnson was working with a university to map magnetic fields, and that proved out to be that we had never see them until he released his pictures and later on I did a DVD on that in the in the energy series. I had a little model and Peter Lindemann built an advanced model as was shown on the internet. That motor used the Bedini/Cole circuit; the only difference was it used reeds to switch the circuit at over 10 thousand RPMís. It was so fast it would burn the bearings up. At that speed you could not stop the motor, I use to say itís an electrical turbine and if you could control it you could have all the power you want free from all back EMF or counter electromagnetic force which was proven because it did not produce any generation of any kind except what Bearden called, it makes pure ō-dot current. The coils in this machine are standing vertical or can be in a Toroidal arrangement with small gaps on a non-iron form, so no iron in the motor except the magnets. The arrangement is much different on the rotor in peters model NN, SS across from each other. In the 3D demonstration model I have chosen to arrange the magnets NN, NN to keep it simple and from building a bi-polar switch. In the Video Iím using a Lipo battery just to see what happens as I know you cannot use that signal to charge that type of battery.
    However you can filter all that and build a linear regulator circuit and recharge the battery as nothing is affected in the motor. Some may disagree with what Iím saying but until you do the experiments you really wonít know anything about it. As Peter would tell you, John never talked much about this motor.
    The 3D printer really makes everything easy to test things and the cost to do it is low considering it would take me hours in a machine shop to mill things out and it can be reproduced easy. Anyway I have said what I want to say about the history of the motor, and I have seen one other attempt on the internet but I have never seen any follow up on the build. So if it worked he has gone silent or his arrangement did not work out. The one thing I did notice that he mounted his magnets on a plastic disc on the outside of a toroid core which is incorrect as it must be inside a plastic non-magnetic core.
    John B
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

  5. #105
    Hi John,
    your zero force motor has always been one of my favorites. There are so many that are my favorites...
    would it help if the coil formed the arc shape of the rotor for efficiency or does that not really matter. also, in the first vid I watched you added an iron core on the fly which took the motor from 100mA to 0.0mA would it do the same here or does that need the bipolar switch?
    Thanks for sharing these - I'm on pins and needles now.
    KR - Patrick A.

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Ok,
    So I have been busy here and have considered showing the Zero Force motor. This motor that Iím showing is in a very simple form to make it easy to understand and 3D printed. Around 1971 to 1972 Ron Cloe and I decided to do experiments with this type of motor. We discovered this by accident as some things were lying on the bench when we were pulsing magnetic fields to test a theory we had. The first zero force motor was done very crude and was just on a board with a couple of L bracket to just test it.
    Later on we made a movie and sent it to Tom Bearden, Tom did a paper on this and called it an A field motor. I continued my experiments with mapping magnetic fields and the way they looked around magnets and coils, I did not come up with textbook drawings as can be seen from some of the drawings floating around the internet in the images. Around the same time Howard Johnson was working with a university to map magnetic fields, and that proved out to be that we had never see them until he released his pictures and later on I did a DVD on that in the in the energy series. I had a little model and Peter Lindemann built an advanced model as was shown on the internet. That motor used the Bedini/Cole circuit; the only difference was it used reeds to switch the circuit at over 10 thousand RPMís. It was so fast it would burn the bearings up. At that speed you could not stop the motor, I use to say itís an electrical turbine and if you could control it you could have all the power you want free from all back EMF or counter electromagnetic force which was proven because it did not produce any generation of any kind except what Bearden called, it makes pure ō-dot current. The coils in this machine are standing vertical or can be in a Toroidal arrangement with small gaps on a non-iron form, so no iron in the motor except the magnets. The arrangement is much different on the rotor in peters model NN, SS across from each other. In the 3D demonstration model I have chosen to arrange the magnets NN, NN to keep it simple and from building a bi-polar switch. In the Video Iím using a Lipo battery just to see what happens as I know you cannot use that signal to charge that type of battery.
    However you can filter all that and build a linear regulator circuit and recharge the battery as nothing is affected in the motor. Some may disagree with what Iím saying but until you do the experiments you really wonít know anything about it. As Peter would tell you, John never talked much about this motor.
    The 3D printer really makes everything easy to test things and the cost to do it is low considering it would take me hours in a machine shop to mill things out and it can be reproduced easy. Anyway I have said what I want to say about the history of the motor, and I have seen one other attempt on the internet but I have never seen any follow up on the build. So if it worked he has gone silent or his arrangement did not work out. The one thing I did notice that he mounted his magnets on a plastic disc on the outside of a toroid core which is incorrect as it must be inside a plastic non-magnetic core.
    John B

  6. #106

    Hi John,
    thought I would have a go at replication on the Zero Force. This is just "take one". I should wind some actual balanced coils for this.
    Is there a rule of thumb you use to balance Awg/Ohms vs magnet strength and voltage?
    Or what are you using so I can try to match...
    Thanks - Kind Regards - Patrick A.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by min2oly View Post

    Hi John,
    thought I would have a go at replication on the Zero Force. This is just "take one". I should wind some actual balanced coils for this.
    Is there a rule of thumb you use to balance Awg/Ohms vs magnet strength and voltage?
    Or what are you using so I can try to match...
    Thanks - Kind Regards - Patrick A.
    John,

    Many, many thanks, never heard of that one from you. Patrick, thank you for the video. John/Patrick you know I don't build as much as I should and come at this from a very naive perspective, still I will go ahead and ask and "possibly" someone has already looked at this, but what about the obverse? I.e. you are saying there is a "zero-force" machine that undergoes motive force, what about a pick-up coil? Is that a zero-force generator?

  8. #108
    So I had a moment and thanks to a PM, I realized I was "scoping" in a room that my scope picks up quite a bit of the home mains. That is you should notice in my last vid there is a 60ish hertz sine wave where there should be no wave. I moved the project to a different room.
    I'm also running in the the Bedini/Cole switch

    I just uploaded so it might take a bit before youtube processes...
    KR - Patrick A.
    Last edited by min2oly; 11-02-2015 at 09:41 AM.

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    nice work Patrick!

  10. #110
    Thanks John.

    Here's a quick look at the toroidal design I'm working on.

    This is the 3rd toroid I wound up. tried 40awg wire on the first one and had to take it up to 24 volts to get it to spin!

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