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Thread: Basic Monopole Diagram

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    Scorch, I am sure they are ceramic magnets, neos sature the core.

  2. #42
    This might be a reasonable assumption then next question is: What are the dimensions and source?
    The suggestion (John's drawing*) is to use a skate wheel which I believe will work well BUT is not wide enough for the typical magnets we've been using on other SSG experiments which measure 1 7/8" X 7/8" X 3/8" therefore will hang out far beyond the edges of a typical skate wheel.

    The original drawing* just says 5/8" X 5/8".

    BUT I am experiencing difficulty locating any ceramic magnets that are even close to this 0.625" dimension and it's still possible that Shawnee may have used neodymium magnets.
    Her project had a small rotor so unlikely it used the same magnets we usually use for the bicycle wheel SSG. Is it possible this is an error?
    Did John actually intend to suggest a different size magnet for the 2.5" diameter wheel?

    *See: Beginners handbook or: www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by AlvaroHN View Post
    Scorch, I am sure they are ceramic magnets, neos sature the core.

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    they can be round....
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    I prefer to follow John's advice to not make any changes from his original specifications which is why I am here attempting to discover clarifications on these things.

    Did Shawnee use round magnets and, if so, what is the source?

    I'm not finding any 5/8" X 5/8" ceramic disks at the usual sources...

    Kindest regards;

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    they can be round....

  5. #45
    I guess new questions are in order at this point. . .

    In consideration I came to this 'sticky' "monopole diagram" thread (originated by John) to ask a specific question about a diagram John created and there has been no specific response; is John, Aaron, or Peter actually paying attention here?
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    And, if yes, thank you very much! And then wondering: Are you willing to provide any support for the replication of Shawnee's original award winning experiment?
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    And if so; what should my expectations be and can you suggest the best thread (on this forum) to share my replication where you might be interested in this?
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    Please respond.

    If not interested then please remain silent and I shall work without your support and share my work elsewhere.

    And, in the meantime, I will simply keep working on other projects such as this other replication I'm currently working on-
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...periments.html

    Kindest regards;

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    those guys are very busy,, I would not expect a response from them..... what I can tell you is this, if you do not worry about magnet shape, but understand the theory behind the device, and the recovery taking place a similar machine can be made that will perform exactly the same. their are several thousand replications of the SG motor in it's original configuration. most people including the John, Peter and Aaron are far beyond the original machine in their research.... so I would encourage the build, as we do all experimenters for their personal benefit, and the dispersal of this knowledge.

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    Thank you for the input and, yes, I assume they are pretty busy but, hopefully, not to busy to maintain their own stuff such as this thread.
    And I am aware this is far beyond the original SG as I, myself, have already built some more advanced systems such as these-
    www.furaffinity.net/view/3345578/
    www.furaffinity.net/view/5291863/
    So many, in fact, I actually sold a bunch of old experiments and parts just to make room and raise cash for new projects-
    www.furaffinity.net/view/9948485/

    And, more recently, I am working on other approaches such as these devices-
    www.furaffinity.net/view/14791610/
    www.furaffinity.net/view/15133059/

    But I never bothered to build the single battery version of the SG and just want to build one to show to others. . .

    I did manage to find some round ferrite magnets that are 3/8" thick in both 5/8" diameter and 3/4" diameter.
    I have no idea which diameter might be better suited to replace the original 5/8" square magnets Shawnee allegedly used and I assume the flux geometry is certainly going to be a different shape.

    SO, if I am to build this single battery replication, what is the best thread on this forum to share such things?

    Please respond.

    Kindest regards;

    }:>



    Quote Originally Posted by Tom C View Post
    those guys are very busy,, I would not expect a response from them..... what I can tell you is this, if you do not worry about magnet shape, but understand the theory behind the device, and the recovery taking place a similar machine can be made that will perform exactly the same. their are several thousand replications of the SG motor in it's original configuration. most people including the John, Peter and Aaron are far beyond the original machine in their research.... so I would encourage the build, as we do all experimenters for their personal benefit, and the dispersal of this knowledge.

    Tom C

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    feel free to start a thread in the Beginner monopole forum

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