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Thread: How to Make a Bedini Crystal Battery

  1. #31
    No, you have the circuit, Solid State SG Oscillator as posted by me



    Quote Originally Posted by Cam Geddes View Post
    John,

    Is this the circuit potted inside the light I bought at the conference or is that something different? I did successfully build the circuit you show here to run off my Cu-Alum cells.

    Thanks,
    Cam
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

  2. #32
    Yes, This was a great help! This video filled in several gaps on this.
    I bought a Motorcycle battery 14ah to try this with last year. I thought it did not work but only because it was resting at about 10 volts. I am going to bring it out and try charging it again with either the SSG or the SS SSG I just made.
    I have a tracker 20amp but that might cook the goose out of it.....
    I have always wondered if your 1600ah Glass batteries hooked to the 10 coil were Alum or Acid.

    Concerning the oscillator circuit your using to run the led you posted, I have had a lot of thought about that. About six months before you originally posted that circuit, I had one of those big million candle power flashlights that went bad.
    I pulled it apart and what I discovered was that there was a fairly extensive amount of circuitry inside the handle.
    Then using my original little SSG I was able to get the little six volt 4 AH battery back up and running.
    It was odd because I hooked the battery directly to the light and it was very dim, and the battery went dead after just a minute or so.
    I ran into information on the joule thief and thought that must have been what the circuitry was. Now with I have learned given all the information you have posted I am convinced that is what it was. So if that is true then the circuitry inside that flashlight was not only extending the battery, it was making that bulb with the filament run way beyond it's normal output, to reach the million candlepower. Now they make them with a lot more candle power.

    So My question is this, Can we not expand the led circuit to power a 12v dc halogen bulb like this in the same way?
    http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/490425/GE-MR16-12-Volt-Indoor-Floodlight/?Channel=Google&mr:trackingCode=AB520D1B-EC81-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA&mr:ad=19949230196&mr :filter=45755046596&mr:keyword={keyword}&cm_mmc=Me rcent-_-Googlepla-_-Office_Supplies+Desk_Accessories_Dcor_Lighting-_-490425&mr:adType=pla&mr:match={matchtype}

    In other words can we get the same light with maybe 1/10th the power?

    Les


    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    LesK,
    The most important thing is the forming of the plates otherwise it will take a very long time. If you are going to use a car battery which I suggest then it's important to know the condition of the battery because old storage batteries do the same thing as Ni-Cads when the cells short. I did not go into this in the video because of the danger. But it has been done where people have dried the battery out that had a bad cell that was shorted and applied extreme voltage to that one cell snapping the bridging short across the insulators, right the lead acid battery grows lead dendrites and it is possible to fix the shorted cells. If your going to do the Alum conversion then it best to get a new battery and then dump the acid out, but again charge it first so you know that the forming is good. Anyway hope this has helped those that did not understand how this is done.

  3. #33
    LesK,
    Today I will up load another Video on using the tracker and solar switch for night time lighting.
    As I think it is important everybody understands this technology. Hopefully everybody will get it. Your tracker will work fine for doing this.
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

  4. #34
    Look Forward to it. I was thinking of tying into the blue LED.

    Les

  5. #35

    The Alum Battery And The Solar Switch John Bedini

    The Alum Battery And The Solar Switch John Bedini

    In this video Iím going over the alum battery and showing a Solar Switch to control Led Lighting.
    Iím also showing the dis-charge curves and charge curves of converted Lead Acid batteries.
    This discussion is taking place at the Energy Science Forum at: http://www.energyscienceforum.com
    Thank you
    John Bedini
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

  6. #36
    This video shows what can be done with the Bedini solar switch and a rechargeable battery. This switch was designed at Energenx by John Bedini for the Lead Alum battery. The Lead Alum battery recharges much faster then a Lead acid (Sulfuric Acid) battery and can be taken to 0 volts. Don't try that with your Lead Acid battery. The Lead Alum battery does not suffer from sulffation as does the Lead Acid Battery (Yes its the same Alum you make pickles with). The Alum battery makes a great deep cycle battery and does not corrode like Lead acid. In this video we show that the solar switch can be used from 1 volt to 3 volts. The switch will work from 1-24 volts. Maximum 6 amps at 12 volt and 3 amps at 24 volt. We all know you can't run a LED less then 1.7 volts. To really get useful light you need 3+ volts. But, with the solar switch and the Bedini oscillator you can use any 1.2v rechargeable battery or make your own Lead Alum battery that is rechargeable for use with this system. This discussion is at the energyscienceforum.com if you would like to purchase any of our products please visit energenx.com or call and leave a message for Gary Bedini at 208-772-3303 Thanks for watching.



    Chuck Hupp
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    Last edited by Chuck Hupp; 09-06-2012 at 06:10 PM.

  7. #37
    Wow, John, Chuck, Thank you for so much time on this. I hadn't seen the switch before that is great.
    You know that is going to be running my Ferris wheel soon.....

    Les

  8. #38

    The Alum Video And The Solar Switch.

    @ All,
    In the video, The Alum Video And The Solar Switch.
    The most important thing you will ever see, and I mean important. At 38.00 to 41.02 you see the charge curve that curve is liner Lead acid batteries do not do that, and to charge a 5 AmpHr battery if it were lead acid you would be charging all day long. But the Alum battery can and does change it's impedance to allow for quick charging. Then dis-charging it lowers it's impedance to supply current to the load, very important for energy researchers in this field. It's almost as if everything you learned about batteries is backwards. Now, Peter L has pointed out to me tonight that the cooking alum is the aluminum type so this makes the chemistry different once again. Taking a Lead Acid battery off the shelf dry and just adding this chemical you should really have nothing, but you do and you have an energy that has current to it. I leave this to the Researchers in this field as I have seen what and where the energy is coming from. This is an experiment that you in this forum should study, very important with the curves. This video took about 8 Hrs to do just to get an understanding of what is going on.
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    No I'm not saying that. You need to recharge the Lead Battery, that is what were saying.
    Ok Thank you John B.

    In that case I think a clear distinction or explanation is needed between those "crystal cells" that need to be charged and those that do not. When I watched one of your past videos about the lead crystal battery I thought you were talking about a battery that like the magnesium cell does not need to be charged.

    Is it just a case of: "those crystal cells that use lead need to be charged and those that use magnesium and copper do not need to be charged?" or can a crystal mix be introduced into a lead battery so that it too does not need to be charged?

    And "the advantages of a Lead Alum Crystal Battery are that: it does not use acid; and that it charges faster?

    Alex.

  10. #40
    Alex,
    If you were making a copper magnesium cell then you would just add water to recharge, but a lead crystal battery needs to be recharged. The reason for using lead oxides is so no metals are corroding away. We can find many ways to get energy from metals and chemicals. The lead Acid battery already has the two different oxides and lead plates do not have galvanic action like magnesium and copper. You can see that I make a very thick solution to form the crystal in the battery it must be kept wet so the Alum does not grow. The ideal crystal battery locks it's water inside of the crystal, but that does not mean you can not recharge it. Either way it works, one dissolves the metals and the other continues to charge and discharge for years. Hope this helps.
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

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