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  1. #1

    Tesla magnifying transmitter

    I would like to build up a thread that acts on this subject because I want to learn more about it.
    The purpose is to try an give an overview on what possibly is needed to get this to work in a summerised version (only the basics).
    Because I have a test kit of Konstantin Meyl where this system is build on scale and read in the documents of Eric Dollard of a third coil, I would like to see if it's also possible to experience difference on low voltage signals.
    The reason for this is that in the book "Gateway to future science with Nikola Tesla" on page 27 is stated that on the bases off the magnifying transmitter whas an incident in his youth where he saw a small snow ball run down a hill and became as big as a house, so I want to investigate if I can start the thing with low voltage as the snow ball starts small.
    I've read in a thread on energeticforum that the magnifying transmitter can be scaled down, I hope this is also meaning low voltage input.
    I just want to build a very basic low voltage version and see if it will work, first with the Constantin kit and if results are good from zero with basic materials.

    I reserved the first few messages to give a summerised overview of the properties of a part on it's own.
    So when anyone starts to read the thread has an overview, those first messages will then be updated if something new on that part is known.

    If you see any fault or have extra input please do leave a message.
    Last edited by bruno; 02-20-2015 at 11:22 PM.

  2. #2
    The project setup:

    The standard setup off the kit looks like this: (can't upload pictures to message, please follow the links.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/nx5box3sj4...setup.JPG?dl=0

    The kit comes with 3 different sets of pcb coils: coil A (9.2m), coil B (4.6m = length A/2) & coil C(18.4m = length A*2)
    I only measured coil B and calculated the other two lengths.

    So I thaught what if a third coil is added to the system as in Eric Dollard "Condensed intro to transformers"
    I wounded the coil with the same length as coil A, because as you can see in description on secundary coil and third Tesla coil, they both should have the same length.
    Because the self capacity should be minimum I used 2 leads of fishing wire (2 x 0.5mm) between the copper windings (0.5mm) to increase distance and therfore lower capacity, hopefully I interpreted that the right way.

    The result looks like this:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8dj2wjss52...added.JPG?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i10cyto8z9..._coil.JPG?dl=0

    Measurements are taken, but I have to look into it further and also noticed that a youtube video should be made with scope images but this is for later.
    The first measurements can be found on following pdf:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5yu65qw4o...20Kit.pdf?dl=0
    I have to find a better way to make the differences is measurement more clearly and must also look if it's somehow possible to use my function generator because the function generator that comes with the kit is not stable.
    Extra info: The measurements are done on DC output that is foreseen on the pcb's (rectifier bridge + capacitor 4.7 micro F and 100 ohm load resistor).

    I made a quick video on the scope images but at 11Mhz resonance point (scalar resonance because not influenced when you move your hand around transmitter) I don't understand the wave goes negative when bridge rectifier is used.
    http://youtu.be/jdf8CynpWMs
    Last edited by bruno; 02-22-2015 at 11:31 AM.

  3. #3
    The primary Coil:
    Source D001 (Eric Dollard):
    - Length: Lambda/2 = Kn where n is the harmonic number convenient for the size of the unit, K not defined
    - Impedance: Acts as a halfwave, therefore exhibiting no impedance transforming properties.
    - Capacitance: ?
    - Winding: ?
    - Diameter: ?


    For the coils there's a very intresting thread:http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-d...ompendium.html
    Last edited by bruno; 02-20-2015 at 10:41 PM.

  4. #4
    The secundary coil:
    Source D001 (Eric Dollard):
    - Length: Lambda/4
    - Impedance: Low characteristic impedance of value Zs = squareroot(Zp * Zt)
    - Capacitance: Due to low characteristic impedance = high self capacity needed
    - Winding: Due to high capacity => flat spiral coils of wide strip or short coils of wide strip or short coils of wide strip wound edgewise.
    - Diameter: very nearly to primary loop.

    Has 3 functions: (page 6)
    1) Transforming the primary MMF (Magneto Motive Force) pulse into abrupt travelling electric wave.
    2) Provide constant potential, constant current transformation for good voltage regulation at the output of Tesla coil.
    3) Match drive impedance of Tesla coil to the drive impedance of the earth.

    Source V001 (Konstantin Meyl):
    - If transmitter coils are wound clockwise, better results are reached when the receiver coil is counter clockwise wound.
    Also shown in patent P003 when you look at the coils.
    Last edited by bruno; 02-20-2015 at 10:58 AM.

  5. #5
    The third coil or Tesla coil:
    Source D001 (Eric Dollard):
    "This is where the magnification properties are most pronounced" (page7)
    - Length: Lambda/4
    - Impedance: Highest possible characteristic impedance, thereby facilitating the greatest possible magnification of EMF (Elektro magnetic force) by the relation Eo= Zt * Iin.
    - Capacitance: Minimum possible
    - Winding: ?
    - Diameter: The minimum capacity of the coil is when the diameter = length

    The propagation along this coil is pi/2 times the velocity of light due to the distributed shunt capacity.
    This results in pronounced capacity effects when the coil is operated higher in frequency then resonance.
    It will discharge a rate much faster than the angular velocity of free oscillation, producing explosive phenomena (page7)

    Dielectric radiation must be minimized.
    Last edited by bruno; 02-20-2015 at 10:00 AM.

  6. #6
    The capacitor on top:
    Source D001 (Eric Dollard):
    "The self capacity of the terminal sphere brings the frequency of oscillation down to that of light velocity by acting as a shunt capacitor load across the coil. Steinmetz equations show a power factor as high as 40% is possible"


    I don't know the reference anymore for Konstantin Meyl but he stated that when you use series resonance with a capacitor you get more voltage, while using parallel resonance with a capacitor gives more current. This I think is also shown on page 4 of Eric's Condensed intro to tesla transformers (D001) where the difference between Tesla & Steinmetz coil is shown.
    Last edited by bruno; 02-20-2015 at 11:54 AM.

  7. #7
    Signals applied to the setup:
    Last edited by bruno; 02-20-2015 at 04:57 AM.

  8. #8
    Extra related info:

    Papers and other information used:
    - D001: Eric Dollard: Condensed intro to Tesla transformers
    - D002: Ivancevic et al. : Gateway to future science with Nikola Tesla
    - D003: Konstantin Meyl: Scalar Waves
    - D004: Nikola Tesla: The problem of increasing human energy http://www.unz.org/Pub/Century-1900jun-00175 (referenced in D002 on page 29 as information regarding experiments done on the magnifying transmitter)
    - D005: Nikola Tesla: On light and other high frequency phenomena http://www.energyscienceforum.com/showthread.php?t=762
    - D006: Nikola Tesla On His Work With Alternating Currents And their Application To Wireless Telegraphy, Telephony, And Transmission Of Power
    - D007: "The Awesome Life force" by Joseph Cater (page 285) http://www.openisbn.com/preview/0787301612/

    Video:
    - V001: Konstantin Meyl:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tplRbd-fso Technical proof scalar waves exist.

    Patents:
    Nikola Tesla:
    - P001: Apparatus for transmitting electrical energy: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p.../US1119732.pdf
    - P002: Electrical Transformer http://www.google.com/patents/US593138
    - P003: System of transmission of electrical energy: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p...s/US645576.pdf

    Websites:
    - W001: http://www.tb3.com/tesla/magnifier/T...fierSystem.htm

    Intresting threads:
    - T001: Eric dollard type coils:http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-d...ompendium.html
    Last edited by bruno; 04-02-2015 at 10:53 PM.

  9. #9
    Questions and answers:

    -Q001: If the length of wire for example =25m for Lambda/4, does this mean that only the coil part has this length or the total coil + connections from coil to other part?
    Related posts:

    -Q002: Is there somewhere a step by step manual on building the tesla transmitter based on Eric Dollard build up of the system, meaning a three coil setup (low voltage preferred)?
    Related posts:
    Last edited by bruno; 02-22-2015 at 10:51 PM.

  10. #10
    Another video that inspired me to try the low voltage setup:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjz-5Lqtxow
    This is not the 3 coil system but it also shows that low voltage can be used, hopefully also with great gains.
    It also shows the difference on using sine and pulse wave, so this weekend the tests will be done with pulsed wave.
    Very intresting video's:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDBswShYWW4
    Last edited by bruno; 02-23-2015 at 01:58 PM.

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