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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnK View Post
    Hello guys, I know there are many variations of bedini devices and the most famous is the schoolgirl SG device.
    I need to know which one of the Bedini generators is the best on in terms of real life use on a house.
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    (Questions that just popped in my head are all the following: Monopole? Dualpole? How many coils? Twisted cable pairs or straight ones? With welding rods as coil cores or without? How big should it be?)

    Hi John K,


    SO, if I need to power my whole house solely on a Bedini generator, which one should I build.
    (The need is ~2kw per hour ~ 1300kwh per month)

    p.s: Please don't tell me to build the sg first etc, I've already went through that phase, what I really need is all your opinions on what should be the best to use for real life.

    (I guess what I'm looking for is the most efficient scenario known to the forum members, even if that is another kind of scenario and not Bedini at all).
    Thank you
    Two Asymmetric Monopoles comprise of the Dual Monopole SG, this is the way to go... the 6 coiler.. the 12 pole monopole (actually 48 transistors with 12 on each side) and of course the last but not the least.. The 10 coiler with two sets of Asymmetric 5 coils each (dual mode)
    even when it is Soild-State mode, 6 Coiler is split as 3 each of Asymmetric Coils. the coil size is a measure of how big the battery is (of course AH rating), the number of Coils is a measure of how many plates of Batteries involved (12 if a12V), Air -core or Iron Core depending on Frequency in use. Rotary Mode(Impulse ) the frequency is in the Power Frequency range, Continuous Mode it is in the Sub-Audio Frequency range.
    About the Cap dump, it is entirely different as the reaction is different... This works on The E-Amp effect and the Gain in the battery is seen after the 'Rest time' The Inductive Mode which is the SG the reaction is immediate. what about a combination of the both...???
    Correct me if I'm wrong
    Best Regards,
    Faraday88.

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    Hi Johnk, you asked has anyone succeeded in building an SG withgood COP. Have you seen the early "Energy from the vacuum" videos? John Bedini started all this excitement. The videos show his 10 coiler powering his audio factory in Idaho through a large battery banks that he charges with the 10 coiler. You need to watch those early videos. The power company paid him a visit when his factory electricity usage ceased.
    Of course that 10 coiler was made to be able to power enough aH batteries to in turn run everything in the factory he wanted it to run. He makes the claim in those videos that in Idaho you cannot depend on wind power or solar because of the weather conditions. So his 10 coiler also has caps on each of the 10 circuits. I do not understand it all.
    But you said to John H that the solar tracker seems too expensive and may not be worth it....I hope you realise that to get a system up and running that will power all the needs of your house you will have to buy good quality batteries with enough amp hours. That = $$$$
    Then to build a multi coil machine - multi coil simply means more than 1 coil around your rotor- will cost you more $$$$ in wire...not to mention transistors.
    Example: A 10 coil machine may have 80 transistors which should be all beta matched to one another. To do that means you will have to buy a lot more than 80 to whittle the number of matched transistors down to 80. Again...more $$$ Or as John K and TomC have said, you can buy them already matched from teslagenx.com
    The Solid state option also means lots of dollars. You can have an 80 strand coil run in solid state, which again will need 80 matched transistors.
    Whether it's solar power, wind, Radiant energy all will require large amounts of money at the beginning...but with the Bedini tech attached, such as the solar tracker range, your batteries will not need to be replaced saving you thousands of dollars every few years. With a normal solar system your expensive battery bank will sulphate and die and need replacing of rejuvenating.
    All of these things require batteries. That is the main cost. Bedini tech saves you thousands in ongoing replacement costs. As Mr Bedini says, There is no such thing as Free energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Rhodes View Post
    So his 10 coiler also has caps on each of the 10 circuits. I do not understand it all.
    I've seen the first two videos of it. What 'caps' are you referring to? Someone else mentioned caps but I have no idea what those are.


    Quote Originally Posted by D Rhodes View Post
    But you said to John H that the solar tracker seems too expensive and may not be worth it....I hope you realise that to get a system up and running that will power all the needs of your house you will have to buy good quality batteries with enough amp hours. That = $$$$
    You are absolutely right, let me rephrase that. I have no problem with purchasing whatever I might need, I just want to have an x amount of certainty that it will do, and that its not going to waste. I'm very new to this Tesla charger thing, while on the other hand I've already built one monopole SG with 4 coils and bought all the cables, transistors, resistors, diodes and neon bulbs myself.


    Quote Originally Posted by D Rhodes View Post
    With a normal solar system your expensive battery bank will sulphate and die and need replacing of rejuvenating.
    I'm very new to these forums so I don't really understand everything. Let me tell you what I got so far. If I got this right, the solar tracker actually makes sure to keep the batteries at an optimal charge rate, so that they don't die while being charged from the solar panel. Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by D Rhodes View Post
    but with the Bedini tech attached, such as the solar tracker range, your batteries will not need to be replaced saving you thousands of dollars every few years.
    Well why bother buying solar panels if you can just build a solid state SG and have it all neat and in one place? Also, since I live in a flat its very difficult for me to install more than perhaps 4 square meters (43 square feet) of solar panels, I gets thats like 4 small solar panels, and I don't think my goal can be achieved with just 4 panels.. That is the reason I left the solar panels as the last option.

    Quote Originally Posted by D Rhodes View Post
    All of these things require batteries. That is the main cost.
    How many batteries will I need for the following scenario and what costs are we looking at for the following scenario?:
    (The need is ~2kw per hour ~ 1300kwh per month) during winter time (because we've got electric heaters)
    and I guess around 1kwh per hour ~650kwh per month during summer time.

    Quote Originally Posted by D Rhodes View Post
    As Mr Bedini says, There is no such thing as Free energy.
    I believe there is such a thing, we just haven't found it YET.. I have faith in all of us guys, I really do.
    Last edited by JohnK; 06-12-2014 at 11:42 AM.

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    'As Mr Bedini says, There is no such thing as Free energy.'

    There is no such thing as free Lunch...you must work towards it to get more of it, It is left you how you get it with the little that you put in a system..!!! That is what this research is all about..
    Yes, Bedini also said, that Solar, wind, Dam water, Tidal, are real sources of 'Free-Energy' how efficient you engineer the Source or its receiver to tap much of it is the search!... Directly speaking these primordial sources are in fact of ENERGY FROM VACUUM we are yet to understand what evokes them and how..?
    Best Regards,
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    honestly I'm a "new be" in the Bedini technologies and built myself a fair SG consuming 2 watts, putting a lot of wind, recharging with a <1 COP another battery and desulfating that same battery at the same time. That's fair to me. For powering your house, just stay away from the ,444 patent and the rest, I would say you will never produce a single watt of free energy unless you spend a lot of time, money, research, and most, you are much more competent than me. It's just my humble opinion, you have the opinion of the class's donkey, I'm just so bad an electrical engineer ! Now another option for you is to work on different technologies which you could share here with us, even if it's not Bedini related we do not care, we're just interested in things that work anyway, and in this regard, all contributions are welcome.

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    Well is there no soul in this forum that has achieved getting more energy as output than what he himself payed for as input?
    Wether that happened with Bedini tech or not.. I believe theres at LEAST one person who has achieved that in energyscienceforum...

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    so I am sitting here watching Peter Lindemans SG with a custom generator coil on it. it is running a 40 light set of led bulbs. the cap dump is charging a battery. it is 1.3 amp input and 2.3 on the output, plus the mechanical. if you build the generator coil circuit right it is non reflective. you can put coils all around it and power a bunch of stuff. the Vanilla SG is just the start.

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    Hi Tom,
    Kudos Peter.
    I'm still plugging away, can you talk more on how he is measuring the output?
    Is he measuring those simultaneously and output after the dump?
    This is very similar to what I am attempting... more info would help me along.
    Thanks!
    Patrick A.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tom C View Post
    so I am sitting here watching Peter Lindemans SG with a custom generator coil on it. it is running a 40 light set of led bulbs. the cap dump is charging a battery. it is 1.3 amp input and 2.3 on the output, plus the mechanical. if you build the generator coil circuit right it is non reflective. you can put coils all around it and power a bunch of stuff. the Vanilla SG is just the start.

    Tom C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom C View Post
    so I am sitting here watching Peter Lindemans SG with a custom generator coil on it. it is running a 40 light set of led bulbs. the cap dump is charging a battery. it is 1.3 amp input and 2.3 on the output, plus the mechanical. if you build the generator coil circuit right it is non reflective. you can put coils all around it and power a bunch of stuff. the Vanilla SG is just the start.

    Tom C
    Hi Tom C,

    Are you able to provide more details on the custom generator coil. Perhaps enough that I could try it out on my SG machine?

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    it was a 4 filar coil, he split the bobbin in half and added material to the center so the coil would be the same width as the magnet face, so it was a rectangular coil. take a regular SG spool saw it in half length wise and put some plastic in between to make it oval. he attach&#233; the end of the first strand to the beginning of the second strand, start to end 4 times, to get more turns. that went to a diode, like a half bridge, and then a cap, then to a set of leds 40 in parallel. or the cap may have been first, don't remember.


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