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  • #16
    weasel
    please post spec of ur setup - coil spec /core size ,material ,number of transistors run batt size ect
    guy

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    • #17
      hello guy

      i try and stick to the plan as far as possible

      spool size is a bit diffrent than specified. core is 22mm length 8cm outer diameter aprox 9 cm
      r60 welding rods 2.4mm diameter (smaller was not available)

      coil itself 130 ft of 20 and 23 awg wire for the trigger and primary
      or do you recomend longer
      4 coils 8 fillar litzed
      diodes 1N4001 and 1N4007
      470 ohm resistor
      transistor currently limited to bd243C later upgrade to mjl21164G
      for the trigger 2 pots 100 ohm 10 turns each

      regards
      weasel

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      • #18
        weasel you have a 4 coils s filler 8 filler so its a 8x4= 32 transistor coil is core .866 length [tall]3.5/32 dia 3 .1/2 aprox
        with welding rods about 1/8 dia
        i m missing something
        fill in blank
        core dia._____
        coil higth____
        coil dia_____
        2.4 dia welding rods x how many aprox
        x 32 strand and 32 transistor
        a few good close up pic go a long way

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        • #19
          hello guy

          wheel and frame are don so far

          all the other pieces we still have to make
          i keep you posted when we make the coils ( i presume this weekend)
          just one question about the coils

          what is better for our size of batterys?
          more coils on the machine or bigger coils?

          battery sizes 225AH input and 180AH charge side for reconditioning ( i have a lot of those to do)

          regards
          weasel
          Last edited by wild weasel; 06-06-2014, 03:11 AM.

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          • #20
            weasel i never did batts that big .but if you do 4 coils 7 transistors per coil 32 trans if that dont do it .nothing will
            when you fire that many trans it get hard to get enough umph out of trigger . not sure what the limit is
            you should get it setup a good 225 up ft and a GOOD 180 on back and make sure it will charge batt that big
            and note how long as it will take a lot longer . if it wont charge a big batt it cant fix a big batt
            guy

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            • #21
              hello guy

              second discharge on our current machine for the bad 180AH bat is now double then before
              first discharge lasted 15 minutes we got now 29 minutes till 12 volt
              so there is improvement and this is on the single coil machine

              regards
              weasel

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              • #22
                sounds like ur on ur way give the batt a good rest 4-5 hr

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                • #23
                  hello guy

                  the machine works this is for sure.
                  thanks john bedini for all the good things you did

                  and you guys all together for the support so far and making it happen all over the world

                  we on this end keep building and studying what happens and try to fiddle and play on the test rig...
                  the good rig is in the build and i know there will be setbacks and other problems to come but hey thats the fun of it.

                  regards
                  weasel

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                  • #24
                    frame done
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                    now we wait for the rest to arrive

                    regards
                    weasel

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                    • #25
                      Looking good! Is the bracket you are using steel? It might get caught up in the magnetic fields from the magnets and coil, you'd be surprised the distance the field of a ferrite magnet actually is, I certainly was when playing with some metal shavings a little while ago, so it might pay to use a timber or brass bracket instead. You will notice a lot of SSG builders try and keep the metals to a minimum in their builds. That's just my novice observation, so take it with a grain of salt.

                      Great work in any case!

                      Thanks

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                      • #26
                        good point jelloir

                        did not think about this before.... but you might be right after all

                        regards
                        weasel

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                        • #27
                          update on the wheel

                          magnets arrived and installed
                          free spin time 21 minutes so nice running on new bearings ( just wondering after run in period)
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                          now waiting for the other components to arrive to build the boards and coils

                          on the back we make 3 kopper pipe rings to connect all leads
                          pics follow

                          regards
                          weasel

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                          • #28
                            hello guy

                            in the meantime our bat is now hitting 14 volts under charge for the first time
                            discharge remains a bit the same for now but voltages are rising slowly

                            regards
                            weasel

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                            • #29
                              Weasel
                              just wondering after run in period)
                              ?????
                              what do you mean

                              edit
                              i got what you mean break in run on bearings !!!
                              Last edited by guyzzemf; 06-10-2014, 03:12 PM.

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                              • #30
                                ok we have been fiddling arround a bit today with the new toy.
                                components are for now on a breadboard, i know its not good but its fine for fiddling.....

                                but..... for fun we had this old 2 fillar coil hanging arround from the verry first step .....
                                i put it on as a seperate trigger..... so the main coil is now wired only to transistors and trigger goes to both fillars on the other coil and we can play arround with timing of the attraction

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                                now we notice the folowing.
                                rpm goes up from 280RPM from standard single coil setup to 400 rpm..... with same base resistance on the trigger and looking for good timing on the trigger coil.
                                also here big diffrences depending on the timing from 200 rpm to 400

                                but a large drop on amps on the charge side. 1 amp in single coil setup to 0.5 amps at 300 rpm or 0.3 at 400rpm

                                annyone outthere been playing with this setup???

                                i have to say that the trigger coil has 900 turns of wire on it
                                maybe this is to much for matching the setup of the other coil.......

                                kind regards
                                weasel

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