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  1. #11
    @BroMikey,
    I'm glad you like it. There are even more ways to do the job, and the lamps to look better. You can buy, for example, some circular AC led spots, and to modify them to work on 12 volts.
    But I'm telling you, this stuff it's a little different, it looks more like a neon led lamp, if you now what I mean. The light cover a bigger area, compared with the light from spot led's, which it's focused on a limited area only. You can make even a bigger lamp, with 8 to 16 led's, in a series/parallel configuration, and it will be enough for lighting a medium size room, with the cost of only 1 amp/hour current draw at full power (when needed, of course, because you can always switch your custom lamp to desired power).
    Nice finding, about the glue with metal dust, it should be even better for heat dissipation. Just curious, this glue it's not conducing electricity, right?

    It would be sad to see your Led fall off in a few days.
    Actually, I did tested heat dissipation of 3 led's configuration + resistor 33 ohm 3 watt, driven at almost full current on my aluminium profile, and they are working for a month +.
    About the 4 led's configuration, they are working in my dinning room for 2 month +, without any visible heat, and they are turned on around 6 hours a day, in this winter light time. Still, I need 2 more lamps, in order to finish the job.

    1.jpg 2.jpg _ 002.JPG L.E. The last picture it's with the fifth led on - the night light mode

    By the way, I did measure the night light current draw (kitchen + dinning room) - 11 miliamps, and the light it's quite impressive.

    Alum batteries take time to come back to life but like any OLD battery it might be a lost cause, HUH?
    Yeah, I suppose I have to let them go, it's time to focus on big ones. Maybe I will try to convert a 50 amp battery flooded lead acid battery. The main problem, however, it's to dispose safely the neutralized acid, but I will find soon a way.

    I will talk more later the kids are in my ear.
    I know how it is. Actually, my older boy saw me when I did this tutorial, and told me: „This led light is for our room, right?”
    Best regards,
    Teodor
    Last edited by axxelxavier; 01-04-2014 at 09:04 AM. Reason: adding another photo

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    Hi John B.

    Just got your solar tracker 12 vdc @ 10 amps. today in the mail.

    ? for you before I plug it in.

    It Shows in your videos that it has a RE SET switch on the front of the unit and a ON & OFF switch in the back.

    The unit that you sent me did NOT have them on the unit.

    The owners manual says MAKE SURE ALL SWITCHES ARE OFF BEFORE YOU PULG IT IN.


    1 This unit should have the switches on it?

    2 Will it work with out it ?

    3 Are the holes in the bottom for are flow for the fan on top ?

    3 pics below

    Tried calling you but your phone mailbox is not set up.

    John Please call 215-910-1193 and I hope you are well and have Great New Year 2014
    E- Mail nt@energybat.com

    Thanks Geoffrey

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    your device will work fine hook up the charge battery then the solar panel.

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  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by geoffrey sr miller View Post
    Hi John B.

    Just got your solar tracker 12 vdc @ 10 amps. today in the mail.

    ? for you before I plug it in.

    It Shows in your videos that it has a RE SET switch on the front of the unit and a ON & OFF switch in the back.

    The unit that you sent me did NOT have them on the unit.

    The owners manual says MAKE SURE ALL SWITCHES ARE OFF BEFORE YOU PULG IT IN.


    1 This unit should have the switches on it?

    2 Will it work with out it ?

    3 Are the holes in the bottom for are flow for the fan on top ?

    3 pics below

    Tried calling you but your phone mailbox is not set up.

    John Please call 215-910-1193 and I hope you are well and have Great New Year 2014
    E- Mail nt@energybat.com

    Thanks Geoffrey

    Screen Shot 2014-01-04 at 6.53.37 PM.jpgScreen Shot 2014-01-04 at 6.53.56 PM.jpgScreen Shot 2014-01-04 at 6.54.08 PM.jpgScreen Shot 2014-01-04 at 6.54.36 PM.jpg
    Hi Geoffrey,

    The unit you received is the latest Solar Tracker which has some updates from when the manual was printed.

    The reset button has been moved internally and automatically resets itself if tripped; there are no switches on the latest model and it should work just fine out of the box. You are correct that the additional holes are for airflow.

    Regards,
    Erik

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    Thanks!


    still learning.....since then I flooded another 7.2 amp hour gell cell and pulse charged it right up to 14.5 volts in minutes but the load test failed right away at 1 amp...I'm thinking i need to really dry out the gell cells before I put the alum in...I'm just alittle unclear as to how this is done? Do I just use a regular charger with the caps off the battery? How do I know when the cells are dry....just by visual inspection? I'm thinking of just converting this recondition RV battery (FLA) today instead....

    also another question...in John's video his alum solution is opaque white but when I get mine mixed to the "slippery feel" it's still clear.

    cheers

    Joe

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    @Joster, actually, I don't think the battery should be completely dried. I was converted myself a similar battery to alum, which was not dried at all, and it was charged at SSG at 15,5 volts and discharged at C4 (1,7 amps/hour), just to see how good is it. The discharge last only 20 minutes, to 12,00 volts. This cycle was repeated 4 times, and the same results, 20 minutes only. I was going to prepare it for disposal, but i was thinking to try just one more time, and this time I left the battery on load at C24 discharge rate - I just let it with a led lamp connected, until death (0 volts).
    But... guess what? the battery simply refuse to die - the led's are still on, not so bright, of course, but from yesterday, at 12,45 volts /220 miliamps current draw, until now, there are more than 30 hours of discharge, and the voltage reading shows 10,55 volts, but only 50 miliamps current draw. Very interesting... Next time, however, I will do discharging with a resistor, maybe the load will be more constant. Anyway, from 10 minutes lasting battery to this 30 hours, it's simple unbelievable.
    Try it at lower discharge rate, I'm very curious if this behavior it's normal for a hybrid alum bat (non-washed acid battery + alum steroids).
    Here is a quick graphical discharge chart.

    _ chart sla 2014.jpg voltage in the left area, time stamp under the image

    Best regards,
    Teodor
    Last edited by axxelxavier; 01-06-2014 at 05:40 AM. Reason: correcting some infos

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroMikey View Post
    Hi Teodor
    I made some lighting like you did it. I had the aluminum and the acrylic plus the heat-sink epoxy the good stuff here it is
    I have 48 bulbs like yours at 1 watt each. I am making it a universal light for everyday AND when the power goes out, I will be showing it off soon.
    Mikey, this is a huge led lamp! If you will use 4 led configuration x 11 strands, probably the current draw will be 250 miliamps x 11 = 2,75 amp/hour
    Take care of short circuits, the led pin's should be straighten, so they wouldn't touch the aluminum frame.
    I have 1" stand off's that hold the lens over the led's. You can not see them.
    Actually, I can see them, and the idea of using stand off's it's a brilliant one, I was thinking myself for a kind of lamp for my kids's room, with stand off's.
    I work all day in my refrigerator shop and at play all night building. I am still getting 7 hours of great sleep so everyday I work like this. I think some people can not function on 7 hours sleep?
    I know how it is, I usually get 6 hours sleep, and early in the morning back to work. Thank Lord for coffee's.
    Thanks -A - Million for talking me into it. Mikey
    You are welcome. I like helping people, as I was also helped...
    Anyway, if everybody will share the good findings, our life in this world would be surely if not better, at least more interesting.

  9. #19
    I must have missed something about the led build. I did not see where any of the leds were used in a parallel configuration. This would allow for more lights to be lit without increasing the voltage drop, just a little more current. I have been experimenting with 48 leds using 4 volts or more from a hand built water rechargeable battery. And they light up very brightly without loading down the battery.
    I listen to Alex Jones and I fight against the New World Order. Are you a flouride head? Великий Белый Волшебник

  10. #20
    The battery is a crystal type. I use alum, sodium carbonate, sodium silicate and activated charcoal. I put the mix in either a copper pipe with magnesium rod or plastic container with magnesium rod with multiple copper wires coming from the mix. I add water to activate the chemistry. A water battery. hehe. Distilled water. I found that more copper wires causes more current flow. You can also solder many copper wires to the copper pipe, but....you need to presolder them to the pipe before filling. That is another thread.
    I listen to Alex Jones and I fight against the New World Order. Are you a flouride head? Великий Белый Волшебник

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