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  1. #21
    Solavei
    There hasn't been a lot here in this thread for a little while so I thought I might take it off topic as I have zero to add about Mr. Bedini's bug zapper. I'm a physician from the FDA who told the FDA they shouldn't use the drug company's application as the whole of the review, I'll leave it at that and just say the hits just keep on comin. This was a great blessing in disguise however as I went back with the framework I had and began to look at the medical literature on a wide variety of topics. It is astonishing. I do trust that John Bedini is reporting findings of note. The thing with medical literature is it eventually all boils down to giving a treatment or intervention and seeing if someone gets better or worse (i.e clinical trials). These are sadly lacking (though better than fixed) for a number of reasons for anything related to electromagnetics. So I'll just pass along a few unrelated things these are all overwhelmingly supported in the medical literature (The "financial bias" seems to enter once a threat is percieved though there is generally a lack of funds for unprofitable research to start)

    1) This one is new as in the past 3-5 years. Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) about a half teaspoon a day at least halves the progression of chronic kidney disease. Baking soda was initially looked at in about two dozen studies as a way to cut Ct scan contrast dye (nephropathy) reactions. It worked so well, eventually there were studies looking at it simply in chronic kidney disease. These two or three controlled clinical trials (two controlled clinical trials is the "bar" for FDA approval) were overwhelmingly positive at slowing the progression of kidney disease. Half teaspoon of baking soda costs about 1/3 cent a day. Sodium bicarb, what about the sodium?
    2) A recent very large (dozen MD PHds) study from Europe found increased salt intake more than halved (want to double check that) deaths from heart disease and had little effect on BP. It goes along with previous studies I looked at, will dig out references if anyone requests, but within reason, salt is a health food.
    3) Getting back a little closer to oh wait no, first, honey is per dozens of studies about the best wound dressing possible, it is a tremendous broad spectrum topical (and perhaps oral -though I haven't researched it) anti-viral, anti-microbial.
    4) Okay Vitamin C. There is research published from 70 years ago of a clinician who cured 60 cases of polio in a row with IV vitamin C. He also presented his findings to the AMA, around when Roosevelt was starting the March of dimes... chirp... chirp. IV vitamin C is an astonishingly non-toxic, broad spectrum potent anti-viral, it is also a nearly universal anti-toxin. Again I'm happy to provide references. The issue is dosage. This may (though it has not been formally studied) have been addressed with the recent creation of liposomal vitamin C. Albert Svent-Gyorgi who discovered vitamin C (originally named it "Godnose" as he had no idea what he had found) and got a Nobel for this and other work, became very interested, through free radicals in electromagnetic influences on health. Given the electron transport chain in mitochondria, the polarity of water it certainly appears a neglected area of research. In any event, IV and possibly liposomal vitamin C may do similar things to that which John Bedini reports accomplished, and there is a fair amount of literature to back it up. Oh and vitamin D is good. Vitamin C and D and most people live to 100 and half the disease and suffering is gone, that may not even be an exageration. I used to have a website for all of this and more, but it appears that I will likely spend the next year or two placating the government.

    Alright, in closing, I wish to send along a write-up on vitamin C in cancer but don't know how to link to a local file so will send this along to an administrator. The previous poster mentioned Mr. Bedini as his hero. Now the Desert Father's of (I don't know where Syria maybe) had a saying I read once (I think) where they said if you compliment someone you can lay them open to the attacks of the devil. They may be wrong and I may not have read it right but that is not the point, despite your being my elder, I feel obligated to close with, "screw you John, what the hell do you know anyways, nothing!" If on the outside chance you've heard this maybe 10-100 times more than me, as Rosanna, Rosanna Danna said, Nevermind.

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    ZPDM,

    Thank you for the above post - will you be making more posts like it as I feel there is a wealth of knowledge waiting to be tapped into?

    Personally I'd love to have physician(s) be part of this or any other group and take interest into electromagnetics (and other non-conventionial methods) because very seldom I see scientists cross the boundaries of their disciplines. They are generally locked in their own field of research, and not generally because they would not want to cross it, but because of whatever vested interests pay the bills.

    Also, since I doubt the rest of us here are qualified physicians, having an expert in the medical field (even GP) could greatly add into further research and understanding of why things happen and how, from all points of view be it electrical or medical.

    I also thought about commenting on your post but I feel I'd be preaching to the choir. Besides, my information is what I read elsewhere on the Web and not really my own. I don't like being a parrot when I can help it. Although some of the things you said come to me as common sense because of my background (place I come from) where these things are known among people (baking soda, honey, etc) and are passed generation to generation.
    Last edited by amigo; 08-29-2012 at 06:01 AM.

  3. #23
    ZPDM,
    Good To Have you here.
    Your right Screw me, but in my years of research I might say with medical doctors, they came to see me for electronics I did not go to them. I can only report what I did find. This is not saying that it will work, just like your drugs do not work in all cases either. So screw you right back. I'm of the opinion to let you have your say here, you might help somebody and maybe not. But your free to speak your mind. On the other hand someone just might make a discovery that does help.
    John Bedini
    My homepage: http://johnbedini.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPDM View Post
    They may be wrong and I may not have read it right but that is not the point, despite your being my elder, I feel obligated to close with, "screw you John, what the hell do you know anyways, nothing!" If on the outside chance you've heard this maybe 10-100 times more than me, as Rosanna, Rosanna Danna said, Nevermind.
    So I am going to make the assumption here you were being sarcastic, I will say it is hard with posts to understand if someone is joking or not. I assume you are comiserating with JB not telling him off.

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    I believe he was saying that by complimenting someone you can give them a big head which causes arrogance. So he gave the opposite of a compliment.

    Seemed to be a joke to me, albeit a hard to follow one.

  6. #26
    Branch,
    I understand that, just thought that we could get a little more information, I for one am very interested in vitamin C and D and all the Herbs as that is all I ever used my whole life. The medical companies scour the planet for such things, but just read the fine print to find out the side effects.I have also used some of the machines talked about here. I'm hoping on someone making a discovery with electronic healing. I have seen examples under Microscopes of things being destroyed, with Medical doctors sitting right there, I don't take any offence to anything that is said here, it's for your voice here.
    John Bedini
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    I apologize John....I was responding to Tom C's post. I should've replied with a quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Branch,
    I understand that, just thought that we could get a little more information, I for one am very interested in vitamin C and D and all the Herbs as that is all I ever used my whole life. The medical companies scour the planet for such things, but just read the fine print to find out the side effects.I have also used some of the machines talked about here. I'm hoping on someone making a discovery with electronic healing. I have seen examples under Microscopes of things being destroyed, with Medical doctors sitting right there, I don't take any offence to anything that is said here, it's for your voice here.
    Same here John. I did study bioelectronics and nuclear medicine back in '80 but all I ever built in this field was an amplifier for measuring potential across the eye. All I use right now is natural remedies. Goldenrod, camomile, propolis, honey, aloe vera - just to name a few have been known for thousands of years. For the past couple of years I also added MMS - activated sodium chlorite to my medicine cabinet.
    Sodium bicarbonate can bring more benefits by changing our ph. Parasites ( I use this term for bacteria and viruses as well) thrive in slightly acidic environment. Cancers among them. I can write some about vitamin C,D (D3 in particular) but don't want to hijack this thread.
    Rife and Beck discoveries can give us more control over our own health and should be reincarnated.
    I'm waiting for audio transformer (we don't have a Radio Shack anymore in Canada) and 18V zener diodes to continue. I have an old electropuncture Russian device from '80 which I've been using to activate or rather stimulate certain receptors. I never attempted to dissect this device .It operates on low DC levels and it came with a map of receptors to be targeted. I can see some similarity with Robert Beck device, while the device you shared shares similarity with heterodyning technique by using modulation of mixed square waves.
    Everything has its unique resonant frequency and there is a treshold beyond which molecular structure will fall apart. We're electrical beings and each and every process in our body relies on potential difference. There is no need to use Tesla Coil. Low potentials can be effective enough and will not affect any vital processes in negative way.
    Just my 2 cents.

    Vtech

  9. #29
    John,

    Youíre my hero for having replied after that. The great majority of my nine years at FDA was spent in an office dedicated to evaluating whether drugs for various rare diseases should get promoted with tax breaks and the like. It was only when I brought my head up long enough to say,Ēwait you canít do thatĒ that all hell broke loose. Not sure how I stumbled into your work but from my background of evaluating obscure things I had only just read up on and people promoting treatments for such, when I glanced at and heard yours (and Tom Beardenís) work my first thought was, these people arenít liars and while they make no sense to me I donít believe they are incoherent. So I started diddling in electronics where I have no business and have been surprised at how much progress, relatively speaking, I have made based from what you introduced me to. In the back of my mind I guess I suspected you were just exaggerating a bit, I no longer think that is likely the case and to be quite honest it is a bit intimidating, hence I guess the defensiveness of the last post.

    Re electromagnetics and medicine, first off to be quite honest I donít think I am yet at the level of being able to speak your language, I mean that sincerely, maybe in a year or two with help. Secondly, physicians often to generally get it wrong it terms of what is actually going on. What is important is did someone get better when such and such was done? There are very few, (though I will look into it) actual trials related to electromagnetic treatments. What stunned me when I had the time to look into the literature is just how much support there is for vitamin/micronutrient/alternative therapies. Iíll try and post some in my response to Amigo.

    I had a great deal on all this on a website while I was doing consulting work, when the government came back and said, you donít owe us 7 years you owe us 10 years and if not you owe us the full cost of your medical education and training. It is best not to fight such nonsense or overly speculate about it, so in a month or two I will likely, per my direction, start full time work as a general practitioner on an Indian reservation for a year or so. I felt it best not to continue the website at this time, however, Iíd like to send along three newsletters on Vitamin C in cancer, Food dyes and water flouridation as (I hope) a small thank you for the new things youíve given me to think about and explore.

    Ciao,

    Paul

  10. #30
    Solavei
    Tom C,

    To be honest I think I was just being defensive because I start to take free energy more seriously and it intimidates me. That said one might make light of casual hero worship. I mean TheGooch and you Tom C (and John Bedini) are my heroes but really should I really go beyond this? By the Way, sorry for taking things off topic.

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