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    Solavei
    Hi John,

    I could've sworn that they were talking about Rife and not Abrams in the video I saw. I'll see if I can dig it up and double check, maybe take screenshots. But with so much information pouring in every day, I could be wrong and mixed the two.

    What if a coil is placed on the output instead of the electrodes (not directly since it would take more current to drive the coil)? Is there a possibility for an electric to magnetic conversion of this circuit output, just to avoid physical/electrical contact with the body?

    I don't think I have enough 555s on hand (shame on me) so I'll have to get a bunch and give this circuit a whirl. Though I think I'll put it into a sim in the mean time just to see what happens in each part of the circuit.

    Are there any other concerns when building/testing this device (deviations in the Phase Generators, runaway frequencies, etc)?

    Thanks again.

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    4 Wave Mixing

    Amigo,
    If you look at the original Rife film taken from John Crane it is an Albert Abrams machine generating that waveform. The machine has two opposing coils that are modulated with the sparking of the contacts, it also has a hidden Tesla Coil inside the box, and it works slow, but it works. The Mains on the houses at the time were 120 volt DC. So it is a DC machine modulated.
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    Amigo,

    Build EXACTLY as JB says. EXACTLY....... dont change ANYTHING until you get HIS circuit working. I am telling you if you dont build it the way he says, you will be out in left field. you will not get help from this forum. if you first deviate from a working model, if you change things from Johns circuits you are wasting you time. ok? if you want Help from John just do it his way first.

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    Can anybody elaborate on exactly what this machine is intended to do? I was there at the conference, but it was a bit confusing, and I think I missed some of it. I know there was talk about HIV Virus, but does this only kill virus's, or bacteria, or what does it do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aram View Post
    Can anybody elaborate on exactly what this machine is intended to do? I was there at the conference, but it was a bit confusing, and I think I missed some of it. I know there was talk about HIV Virus, but does this only kill virus's, or bacteria, or what does it do?
    virus, bacteria, you name it. research Royal Rife, his microscopes and his frequency healing machines. also look at Johns pages on his rife work. He actually rebuilt one of rifes microscopes, before it was destroyed by some idiots. the circuit posted here is Johns work with the Rife Frequencies.

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    4 wave mixing Russian style

    I AM A RESEARCH ENGINEER, NOT A MEDICAL DOCTOR, AND THEREFORE DO NOT MAKE ANY MEDICAL CLAIMS FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY
    @All,
    I have something that I want to put into the mix here. The Russian healing machines pulse the signal one way and then reverse it. So if you people here are familiar with the bi-polar switch from the Window Motor it is possible to build that machine. I have built several of these machines of which I gave away. It is also possible to detect the field around your body and the machine will self adjust. Bearden writes about that in Scalar healing. It took some time for me to figure the circuit's out since I do everything in Analog. I'm sure Digital would work too.Between two scalar potentials, interferometry is: Interference of the multi-wave sets in hyperspace.
    Production of gradients in the 3-space point values In the classical (erroneous) postulation, the creation of forces in 3-space.
    Force does not exist until the gradient couples to an observable mass. There are no E-fields and B-fields as such in the
    massless vacuum, but only potential gradients.
    As previously stated, in 1903 E. T. Whittaker, a well-known mathematical physicist, showed that a scalar potential can be mathematically decomposed into a set of peculiar EM wavepairs in a harmonic set. (see Figure 12) These “hidden waves” are longitudinal EM waves, arranged in conjugate pairs with the pairs also arranged in a harmonic set. In each wavepair, there is an ordinary (forward-time) longitudinal EM wave (outgoing in 3-space from the interacting/observing charge), coupled to its phase conjugate replica (time-reversed twin).

    Rife was not using normal potentials and normal E and H fields—which as we discussed, only apply to observable material entities anyhow and thus could not be used to “see” far below the quantum threshold of least detectable material disturbance. His entire protocol was to get beyond those “material interception of EM energy” limitations. Unwittingly, Rife was using vacuum engines—involving structuring of the active vacuum as well as pure general relativity (GR) and pure structurings of spacetime geometry itself. He was electromagnetically using that part of GR that the GR physicists have mostly only tried to produce by use of the weak gravitational force. In GR, the ST geometry itself is active, dynamic, energetic, and structuring! In higher symmetry electrodynamics, the ST geometry itself is powerfully active, dynamic, energetic, and structuring! It is not at all just a "passive spacetime" as classical electrodynamics assumes.

    However, all living systems already use this "infolded" bidirectional, longitudinal wavepair EM in their ongoing living functions . Just as they used frequency modulation, EM signals, EM oscillations, etc. before we even had an electrodynamics or a physics, living systems do use the infolded EM (and vacuum engines) in all their living functions, and particularly in their cellular regeneration and restoration (R&R) system , as contrasted to their immune system. The immune system cells are the fighters and the debris scavengers/cleaners. They go after the hostile invaders, fight them, and usually win—littering the battlefield with the debris. Then the immune system scavenger cells clean up the residue.

    No vaccine, drug, herb, vitamin, or mineral heals the body, although certainly they can enhance or aid the body's healing process. Each does carry its individual resident vacuum engine, and when absorbed by the cell, this added vacuum engine contributes to the resident vacuum engine in the cell by summing with it. To restore the damaged cells back to normal (i.e., to heal), the R&R system uses a novel kind of extended electrodynamics with infolded vacuum engines, and it uses a novel kind of optical phase conjugate pumping, in the time domain rather than just 3-space. The magic “unified field theory” so long sought by scientists, has long been utilized by the regeneration and restoration system of the body in its minute-to-minute and day-to-day healing and restoring actions.

    Electrodynamic force fields implicitly define primarily only translation effects upon charges or masses, in their very definitions. With normal EM, usually one will get reradiation of the absorbed energy, or partial reradiation of the absorbed energy accompanied with recoil of the absorbing mass, or no reradiation but recoil of the mass.
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    My Theory

    I'm also just a research engineer, just tinkering with this technology, so I am not qualified to make any medical claims.

    I agree with what John B is saying, but I don't understand some of it. I have read a few papers on various machines that incorporate this type of technology, which describe the machines of having the ability to heal various disorders. One of the best papers I read, described the technology in a way that I think I can understand. Note that I could be completely wrong, but this is just the way I see it, from the research I have done.

    Picture that every cell in a living being (plant, animal, etc.) has a tiny little coil in the centre of it, where the coil exists as the energy source of the cell. Imagine that the coil receives it's energy from the environment.
    However, the coils in these cells in a particular part of the being (e.g. liver, kidney, skin, etc.) resonate at a different frequency. If the cell's "coil" resonant frequency is "disturbed" by something like a virus it can no longer convert the environmental energy into the energy the cell needs to survive, so the cell becomes diseased and if not treated will become mutated, or even die. The being's in-built immune and healing system will attempt to repair or rejuvenate the cell and bring it back into resonance, although it may not be able to completely cure it.
    The theory as I understand it is to hit the cell's "coil" with the correct resonant frequency (or a sub-harmonic frequency), but with a scalar wave of that frequency. This, in theory, will reverse the damage or rejuvenate the cell that has becomes "diseased" as we have "un-diseased" the energy source of the cell. Much in the same way as the Monopole can rejuvenate a battery.
    So if my understanding is correct, we just have to figure out what the resonant frequency (or sub-harmonic) of the diseased cell is and then hit it with a scalar EM potential. But the problem is that what works for one part of the being may not work for another part. So there are a few ways to do this - one is to have a device which can automatically sense the frequency of the damaged cell, as John pointed out, and tune itself to the correct frequency. This sounds pretty difficult to do.
    Another way is to design a machine that will generate many different frequencies at the same time, where the damaged cell will respond to the frequency that it needs in order to "rejuvenate" itself. Of course, using a whole bunch of different frequencies simultaneously may also correct cells that are only partly "diseased" but are only in the early stages where the immune system has yet to figure out that they need healing.
    Bearden's Four Wave Mixing design as well as Lakhovsky's MWO design are example of machines that are reported to have these healing effects. There are others as well.

    So again, this is just the way I see and I could be completely off the mark.


    John K.

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    Hi John,
    I attended the 2012 Conference (my first one) and was blown away. I'm a huge fan. I've been watching your videos and learning electronics with any spare time I can find. You are my hero.

    Now that I finally got to get that off my chest, I have some questions about the schematic:

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
    IC 4
    680Ohms
    100K
    .047Uf
    Pump Wave IC NE555 set between .8 to 8 Cps
    1) When I look at the schematic, I see .0047uF and .1 to 8 Cps. I'm assuming the 2 differences in the above quote are typos? Can you please confirm?

    2) Also, on the schematic I see "ORANGE" and "WHITE" but I'm not 100% sure what they are referring to. Above the "ORANGE" and to the left I see an LED, so I was thinking maybe the "ORANGE" was referring to that (a light to say the machine is on). As for the "WHITE", could it be the color of the wire coming out of the Radio Shack transformer (I ordered one but it hasn't arrived yet)?

    3) To the left of the 386 chip, between pin 3 and the 100K pot, what does that arrow pointing up mean? I've tried looking at tons of schematics to find one of these and a description of what it means, but no luck. As I mentioned earlier I'm new to electronics and trying to learn on the fly, so please don't be too harsh.

    4) I noticed some of the capacitors don't have a + or - and some are drawn with a short line and a longer line. I'm assuming the ones on the Phase Gen Mixer should be ceramic capacitors as they don't have polarity from what I understand. Can you please elaborate on the capacitors that should be used (ceramic for Phase Gen, electrolytic for other?, etc.) please?

    5) For the resistors, on one of them you mention it should be 1/4W, what does this mean for the ones that aren't labeled? I've been looking at buying 3W resistors everywhere to be safe but not sure if that's required or if there's a downside to that (from what I can tell, there's no downside but I'd like to be sure before I buy them).

    6) At the bottom of the schematic you have a light drawing of 3 square waves(?) that looks like it says 10v DC, 9.5, and 8.9. Above them are labels AE, BB, and BE. Can you please explain what these are?

    I'm sorry if some of these questions are to 'newbie' but I'm hoping you will help me.

    Thank You for everything you have done and everything you continue to do.

    -Mike Boulet

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  10. #20
    Solavei
    @ Tom C,

    John B mentioned above that you took pictures of the Albert Abrams machine he has, would you be able to post the photos up for the rest of us?


    @ John Bedini,

    Your last post sounds intriguing, do you think you could rewrite it into another one in plain English for the rest of us, please?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by amigo; 08-26-2012 at 01:40 PM.

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