Hi Dave ,
Although i do'nt want to refute with what you intend to show here, the coin shrinking effect is the Lenz;s effect squezing the coin as far as it can ..
in the process the Induced Magnteic field of the Foacult current in the coin and the primary current field of the coil have exterme repulsion where the coil can deform in the outward direction.! and this is evident in what you have shown in the video.
Coil exploding effect manifested in this case many not be the Tesla Type of excitation.. he acheived it at much lower Power input but produced very large gain of explosions as the out put... yes the nature of the Explosion is similar as you point out... thanks for sharing the similarities..
Best Regards,
Faraday88.

Thanks for the reply Faraday,

Some questions I have...

We can clearly see that the force on the coin is being exerted by the coil and is shrinking the coin, so the coil must be a fully formed dipole at that point. Which means it is still maintaining its form and function while the coin shrinks. After the radiant event, that shrinks the coin, the current catches up and destroys the coil.

What happens if we sharply disconnect the circuit by opening the switch in the second frame or just prior to maximum shrinkage? I know that may be impossible to obain such a clean make and break rate at that speed but theoretically you could do this fast enough that you would not use any current from the source, yet you would still get the extreme force exerted upon the coin by only using straight vacuum energy as supplied prior to the current flow. I believe this applies and is what I have been taught by those mentioned in my prior reply.

These are just assumptions on what I think I know... I am always open to correction if that is the case.

Dave

Hi Dave,
Good thinking Pal! Yes Vacuum Energy: carrying out the Coin shrinking effect using E.V Gray Effect/Coils????? how about that...
99% of the Energy juice subjected to cause the shrinking is fed back into the source Battery..! this is perhaps close to what you are looking at..
Those tremeandous repulsion in popping Magnets effect if designed properly can do same thisas the Shrinking action in the coin... may be the Capacitor size will also be far lower than what is used otherwise in the shrinker set-up.
Rgds,
Faraday88.

Hi all,

In the hope of learning I have posted this...

This is the way I see it... Upon switch closure a longitudinal wave or radiant pulse appears in the coil blotch wall, this pulse radiates or enters the blotch wall at right angles to the coil windings, directly from the vacuum and this is the vacuum radiant energy or converging energy that shrinks the coin. In the video notice the coin shrinkage is then followed by a blue radiant flash that precedes the orange green flash from the current. Coil destruction is problably beginning when the radiant flash appears and fully finished when the current catches up and or displaces/removes the radiant componet, thus finalizing the destruction of the coil.

The Bedini SSG works the same way... the radiant pulse is what emits the force that drives the SSG rotor not the DC current from a pulsed coil. The radiant or vacuum energy appears upon switch closure. This is the force that, first appears and is forced to interact against the scalar south or north/south magnet poles on the rotor, wether in attraction or repusion mode, that event provides rotation of the rotor.

If switching is not cut off fast enough, the radiant will first appear, followed by the DC current componet, that displaces and or removes the the vacuum energy and all you are left with is normal DC current in the coil. When the DC current appears that is when we are using the energy from the primary. The appearance of the radiant should not consume any primary battery power. That is why the switching make/break rate is so important to this technology. If you can cleanly switch on and cut off fast enough you should be able to use no DC current while still having a radiant pulse propelling the rotor in the direction of rotation and have your coil charging a secondary battery as well.

To me... With the SSG, I can see a very real possibility in the need to turn off the switch (transistor) well prior to coil saturation. We need to switch the SSG transistor off before the circuit automatically oscillates, or the coil windings becomes saturated enough that it reverse biases the trigger current and shuts off the transistor. Do this and we can have the radiant without the current... Just my $.02

I have never used the Bedini Cole switch but I suspect that may be our ticket or solution to the switching problem and excess current usage within the primary battery or front end of the SSG.

The quote below is from John Bedini...

Underlining added to quote.

Dave Wing

As stated eariler above... we can see the problems in efficiency with the SSG... The SSG machine purposefully kills the dipole, it allows current to be taken from the primary battery and put into the secondary battery along with the longitudinal wave or radiant energy. You can see this when you hook up a current meter to secondary charging side. If you measure any current... You are killing your dipole, or draining your primary battery as is commonly seen.

This can also be proven by the Beginners SSG Handbook. When the core of the coil is attracted or sucked into the magnet it generates a flow in the trigger wire, that does not turn the transitor on. As the core reaches the mid point of the magnet the core stops charging (has reached magnetic saturation)and is no longer attracted in a rotational fashion and cannot apply any angular momentum to the rotor. However the momentum gained by the prior magnetic attraction is now stored in the flywheel and causes the coil core to slip past the center point of the magnet. The core now receives an opposite charge from the other half of the magnet and this happens to be a reverse current now being generated within the trigger winding which turns on the transistor, this allows the primary battery to send direct current into the coil. The current will keep flowing from the primary battery until the the core and coil become saturated, which literally can be explained as no more change in the magnetic flux. The saturation of the primary coil is what turns the transistor off. See the link on this forum to order your copy of the Beginners SSG Manual for a more complete understanding of the machine.

It should be noted that when the transistor is turned on, at the moment of switch closure, that is when the vacuum energy, radiant or longitudinal wave appears... This is the force that drives the SSG wheel and charges your secondary battery. You should also be able to see this explained in the video above. In the first 1-3 frames from the high speed camera, the coin is compressed even before a drop of current ever came on the scene and entered into the coil from the discharge of the HV capacitors. The radiant pulse or influx of vacuum energy performed all the work in shrinking the coin.

Secondly when the SSG coil becomes saturated enough and turns off the transitor, the primary battery then ceases to keep the coil/dipole formed or charged and it is forced to collapse, while the vacuum is adding the radiant energy by apparently trying to keep the dipole fully formed during the collapse of the coil... this accounts for some if not all of the amount of the 20% extra energy gain in the system when the dipole collapses. Also this energy from the coil collapse is released from the coil and the trigger circuit is forced to disapate a certain amount of this energy... That is why your trigger circuit generates so much heat. This makes the machine less efficient yet again.

Like I said earlier in my posts we have to control the on time or the duration of the transistor and shut the transitor off before any current is allowed to flow from the primary battery... Perhaps this is why JB mentioned the term pulse width modulation? Is that not why they have said time and time again... All you have to pay for is the trigger?

Does the video and all the lessons JB, PL, TB, ED, and NT have ever taught... point in this direction?


This should be one way to stop the primary from draining its ccurrent, there may be other ways to block this current as well, one just has to figure it out.

Thanks for reading.

Dave Wing

Another thing I wanted to add is that when we have coil saturation, from the primary battery current acting on the windings, the SSG machine then comes into equilibrium with the active environment and is not far from equilibrium as we need. The machine must always be out of equilibrium or balance for the maximum efficiency of machine operation. Hence another reason to why we need to limit transistor on time.

Hi all,
Just thought I would post these quotes below as well... They are taken from: Yahoo! Groups

Underlining added to quotes below.

Dave Wing

there is a differential in the time domain of ion flow and electron flow. in my mind potential is ion flow and is faster than light ( FTL ) and current is electron flow. so to keep only the potential in motion but not the current is the basis for dipole currentless charging. energies are simply shuttled out of the quantum state into the battery. the iron in the core of the coil is the "gate" for the dipole and the outside of the wire where the druid gas flows is the conduit into the storage battery. switch too fast and there is no chance for the dipole to enter the 3rd dimension out of the quantum state as we need to slow it down a bit for the transform to occur, that is where the current comes in. enough to run the front of the machine only.

Tom C

Hi Tom,

Another way to describe what you are saying is... to keep the radiant flowing you have to cut it off before the current flows and repeat as fast as you can over and over. That as well is currentless charging... Right?

Can you please be more specific as to what you are saying here, regarding the core. Are you saying the iron in the core controls the speed in which the dipole can be used and therefore is a control point?


I have not seen a case of reguaging or switching too fast and being not able to receive anything from the 4th dimension of space time. I have switched a solid state , 23awg, version of the SSG, single 1 transistor circuit from 50,000 to 100,000 oscillations per second and still had excellent charging, with .7 - 1 amp draw off the primary. At that speed I was still using the required amount of current from the primary. Perhaps I misunderstand you... And if that is the case I am sorry. Please expain further as it is all about learning the truth in the end.

When it comes to a dipole or the SSG I have never found a good use for current usage in any way shape or form, it has always lead to power consumption, which is termed as destroying the dipole. All current does is stop the flow of the radiant. So what good is it to the system? As you know Bearden speaks of powering a battle ship with a flashlight battery... In that case can any current be used anywhere in that system? Are you also saying theoretically, you cannot run or turn the rotor of SSG machine without using or comsuming current from the primary?

Dave

Hi all,
Here is some more info that leads to the truth about energy... Current kills the dipole and is harmful to true energy production, in the truest sense. If you remove the current component you will have the radiant which is the free energy all you have to pay for is the trigger and some switching losses, the environment does the rest and can refil the potential gradient over and over again for free, as the vacuum is a endless sea of energy. Switch the transistor off before current has a chance to flow and you can have your cake and eat it too.

Read the SSG beginners book it shows you the machine uses current, it uses current to saturate the core to switch the transistor off. Find a way to switch off the transistor without using the core saturation technique and there is your answer. John Bedini in my opinion is a vey smart man, after all he invented the machine he knows it backwards, forwards, to the left and right... He designed the 1:1 transformer to use current and destroy the dipole purposefully and expected it as a open source project to be figured out by the people interested in this tech. He did spell it out, if you take the pains to do the research and put the pieces of the puzzle together. But like he said it just goes right over the heads of most as they have been conventionally trained and cannot see the underlying truth... Pun intended two ways.

Dave Wing

Hi all,

Ok here is another quote from John Bedini... "I just know that Radiant energy is not what people think it is from the experiments, it's here all the time, but cant be used. Tesla used a spark gap and a lot of power to use it, later tubes to make the oscillator, ((in the 50's I grew up with tubes so I know how they work, I left my dad behind when the first transistor came out, He could not make the switch to solid state but my dad did teach me everything about tubes, since that's what he did for a living)) now we have solid state devices that will do the same thing if used correctly. But to use it there must be some form of power input. Gas in nature, electrostatic in nature must be transformed or it can not be used, this means an compression must be used to release the energy, this takes power, so the term Free Energy/ Over Unity does not exist in my book anymore." Quote taken from... http://merlib.org/node/5508

It appears to be a little clearer now... The quarter shrinker configuration is exactly the same configuation as the window motor of John Bedini... The window coil is surrounding the rotor exactly like the the coil is surronding the quater, the two coils are identical in each configuration and radiant really does appear when you first close the switch, the first four frames in the quater shrinking video clearly demonstrate this and it is definitely a compression event taking place. Is this quater shrinking event, as seen in the first four frames of the video called reactive power? It appears it is and there is no doubt it can be a very powerful event.

Two more things the trigger is very important it allows the production of reactive power, the 1:1 transformer is mentioned as a powerful negative energy amplifier and is thus mentioned in John's book " Free Energy Generation" not just once per say, but the author of the book mentions the 1:1 transformer as being this powerful negative energy amplifier over and over again trying to drill it in our heads as to what or how important the trigger winding is. One more point our motor coils are not to be litzed as John Bedini says here in this quote below. It should also be mentioned that it is again mentioned in the Ferris Wheel thread over on Energetic forum and if memory serves John did not Litz the Ferris Wheel coils.


"After my 35 years of experiments with the term "free energy" and "over unity machines". This is what it turns out to be "Reactive power" and that's it.
This is not hard to do, the little mono-pole motor does it on a small scale, but bigger ones can be made to do the same thing as a 15 amp battery charger with 1.5 amp input, a simple coil is the mono-pole motor coil, one trigger and one power winding, but not in the litze configuration. I have said this over and over on Keelynet, just build the motor and watch what it does, the trigger makes it run on reactive power and no one in the group (two or three maybe) has caught on for some reason." Quote taken from... http://merlib.org/node/5508


Any comments welcome.

-Dave Wing

The thing I noticed when I looked at that delaware quarter...how beefy is that dang horse . But seriously I think what is happening is that the radiant energy is trying to form a sphere. if the edges where pulled in as much as the flat surfaces then why do the flats bulge out the fact that it shrunk and pulls the edges in "covering the letters" but bulges out at the flat spots. Walter russell talks about the energy that makes planets and stars as being a force that wraps vaccuum into matter in the form of a sphere...positive electricity is the force that spins that sphere out into nothingness again. so if it could be the radiant causing the shrink I think it is because it is trying to make a sphere thats just what I see.

If you litz the wire the trigger would act as a 1:1 with the power winding....so it switches off of whats flowing in the wire instead of the magnetic field in the coil core. Am I getting that the way it was intended...makes sense to me...to the bench!

there is a differential in the time domain of ion flow and electron flow. in my mind potential is ion flow and is faster than light ( FTL ) and current is electron flow. so to keep only the potential in motion but not the current is the basis for dipole currentless charging. energies are simply shuttled out of the quantum state into the battery. the iron in the core of the coil is the "gate" for the dipole(Magnetic Field has two 'Insides', while Electric Field has only one 'inside') the Bloch wall of the Coil is one of the Inside, a verticle and Horizontal tilt(lEFT HAND OR RIGHT HAND RULE) from this centre meets the Electric Field centre (Mass as the Node) and the outside of the wire where the druid gas flows is the conduit into the storage battery. switch too fast and there is no chance for the dipole to enter the 3rd dimension out of the quantum state as we need to slow it down a bit for the transform to occur, that is where the current comes in. enough to run the front of the machine only.

Tom C