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    Hi everyone,

    As a retired physicist, I’m some way into starting a research project on generating Browns gas using a DC pulsed Electrolyser in the style of Stan Meyer.

    His work was replicated by Dave Lawton in the UK over 10 years ago and I am in touch with Dave, who is now in his 80s, to revitalise his pulsed system to see how it works with a larger Electrolyser than Dave did his original CoP tests on.

    In that test, with a small cell, he got a CoP of 3.5 but that is based on the energy of conventional Hydrogen production alone. If one adds in the energy available from the so-called 'Watergas' that is allegedly produced, then the value will be much higher.

    I am sharing this work openly and progress during the build along with results and developments. Some useful files related to the work so far are at:

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nezja68vl...wh4-KwbWa?dl=0

    Jules
    'Consciousness came First'

  • #2
    Thanks for sharing this. I have not reviewed your appended material yet and look forward to doing so. It may be for all the questions the answers is look at the drop box material. However, 1) when you are referring to CoP are you speaking of electrical joules in compared to caloric heat joules out from combustion of H2 and/or hydroxy? 2) I am guessing you are aiming for a specific pulse rate or frequency perhaps looking to utilize a resonant frequency of the O-H bond? 3) Are you using pulses or sine waves or other? 4) Are you using a direct spike or wave from from a DC power source or a "radiant" spike off an inductor? 5) Are you using special plate material or plate preparation? 6) Are you using KoH or a different electrolyte? Sorry to be a Gatlin Gun, especially when I have not yet reviewed the provided material. Am looking forward to this.

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    • #3
      Hi ZPDM,

      Its early days in that I am still building the Electrolyser and the circuit and so the docs on my shared folder are by no means complete.

      I shall endeavour to give answers to all your questions:

      1: Yes basically the energy available from burning the released Hydrogen divided by the electrical energy inputted. However this does not take into account the potential energy held by the Watergas particles, the so-called Energy Enhancement, so the real CoP will be significantly larger.

      2: The circuit being prepared is an auto tuning one that hunts down the resonant frequency and locks on to it. If that should change due to thermal coefficients for example then it will shift to keep it locked on with its sampling sweep. This is a key feature of Dave Lawton’s circuit and one I have resurrected as a PCB to make replication by myself (and potentially others) easier.

      3&4: Square wave at typically 50% duty cycle but the back emf pulses from the coil will change what actually hits the WFC so as yet I have no data.

      5: I’m using 316 stainless steel plates and will undertake a conditioning process to prepare the electrode surface. I will experiment with KOH electrolyte as well as no electrolyte and also distilled water and rainwater. Distilled water is about 0.5/l about the same price as LPG so ideally I’d like to use freely available water so long as it does not crud up the system.

      There are plenty of variables to explore during the project including plate separation but whatever works best will be written up and posted here, and probably elsewhere, for anyone to replicate as they wish. That information will include parts lists, component suppliers and costings.

      I hope that addresses your questions


      'Consciousness came First'

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      • #4
        A quick update on progress:

        The specially designed PCB has been received and is nearing completion ready for testing. The electrolyser and plates have been assembled and are nearly ready for the extensive cleansing and conditioning process.

        At the right time the PCB production (Gerber) files will be placed on the shared area for anyone to order it. They are amazingly cheap with the international postage costing more than the boards.

        If anyone would like a tour of the facility where they are made (JLCPCB) then here is a recent one. It's surprising what goes into making a PCB: https://youtu.be/ljOoGyCso8s

        Jules
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        • #5
          As an aside I have finally managed to track down the 1995 Channel 4 (UK) documentary called 'It runs on water'' featuring Meyer and two others whose work 'defies' mainstream science. A very well balanced documentary that suggests we are on the edge of a revolution involving ZPE. I have downloaded it to keep it safe and is a must-see 51min video.

          I have placed it in the 'Video' subfolder on my shared folder for this work at:
          ​​​​​​https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nezja68vl...wh4-KwbWa?dl=0

          You can download it from there and pass around as needed.

          Jules
          'Consciousness came First'

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          • #6
            Hi Jules,

            Are you familiar with Walt Jenkins' discoveries as revealed at H2 Global? He studied Stan Myers' work very closely, and then went way beyond what Stan was doing. His process doesn't involve electrolysis at all, but rather it mimics what takes place in a thunder cloud. He has presented lectures at two different Energy Science and Technology Conferences which are both available from Emediapress. But for the latest info you can go on his web page at http://h2ge.com He's getting close to launching this technology into the international market.

            Gary Hammond,

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            • #7
              Hi Gary,

              Sounds really good. I will check it out. Has he experienced any suppression as so many websites and reports since 2007 have vanished and many proposals around that time that some version of a device was soon to come to market just vanished.

              but then we live in very different times now with planetary crises so maybe the path will be easier?

              I know the video I posted at the end of my thread is old but it gives a good overview of the ‘tension’ between the engineer and mainstream science and I think I will put a separate post about it in the Water fuel section.

              Incidentally, I wrote to Aaron with the news that on July 11th Patrick Kelly died here in the UK as I thought that, given Patrick’s contribution over many years to free energy work and information dissemination, he might want to make an announcement about it but he has not replied. Perhaps you could pass the news on.

              Jules


              'Consciousness came First'

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              • #8
                Hi Jules,

                Has he experienced any suppression as so many websites and reports since 2007 have vanished and many proposals around that time that some version of a device was soon to come to market just vanished.
                Yes. He's had a lot of suppression and his website has been attacked several times. But he is still moving forward in spite of all the attacks.

                Sorry to hear about Patrick Kelly.

                Gary Hammond,

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                • #9
                  Hi Gary,

                  At least he and his team have a set of patents and are in contact with various companies around the world.

                  Having looked at their website I recognise the engine demo using 5ml of gasoline. I wondered what had happened to that research and now, in reading my way through M King’s book ‘Water: The key to New Energy’ it all joins up.

                  Im still happy to persue the earlier tech of pulsed resonant Electrolyser as that is something that can be replicated by many without treading on IP toes for these latest technologies.

                  J
                  'Consciousness came First'

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